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Who is that Mother? Is she the mother of that "mother" Rajendra Pechauri the Mumbai street bum turned tree hugger-UN Chair of Climate Change whatever that means?
If that is the case I would have the first laugh and then the last laugh on you Mr. Carsy. For you are either very gullible or profiting big time on this illusion called "environmentalism".
As for me I am looking for a 1980s big smoke belching MB 5 cylinder diesel engine, just to annoy silly greenies like yourself.
If that is the case I would have the first laugh and then the last laugh on you Mr. Carsy. For you are either very gullible or profiting big time on this illusion called "environmentalism".
As for me I am looking for a 1980s big smoke belching MB 5 cylinder diesel engine, just to annoy silly greenies like yourself.
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I would recommend the Cato Institute website. It is not "Republican" as you accusingly expressed but a group holding higher standards on the misperception of "A GO-GO WARMING". Remember that dance in the 1960s, a freer period before "global warming" was invented?
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guard your freedom Americans
If you are not careful the Californians would outlaw belching and farting. Within the next twenty years the EPA will declare hot air that came out of our mouths and anuses a carcinogen - if inhaled more than twice a week. Subsequently mandatory corks will be inserted into every Californian bums to ensure compliance and anyone caught blowing hot air will be fined US$100 on the spot, Visa and Mastercard are acceptable in fine payments.
You think I am joking? Just look at the McDonald McNugget class action farce.
You think I am joking? Just look at the McDonald McNugget class action farce.
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Next time please post a wet keyboard/monitor alert.
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Cato has been funded by: Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, Bell Atlantic Network Services, BellSouth Corporation, Digital Equipment Corporation, GTE Corporation, Microsoft Corp- oration, Netscape Communications Corporation, NYNEX Corporation, Sun Microsystems, Viacom International, American Express, Chase Manhattan Bank, Chemical Bank, Citicorp/Citibank, Commonwealth Fund, Prudential Securities and Salomon Brothers. Energy conglomerates include: Chevron Companies, Exxon Company, Shell Oil Company and Tenneco Gas, as well as the American Petroleum Institute, Amoco Foundation and Atlantic Richfield Foundation. Cato's pharmaceutical donors include Eli Lilly & Company, Merck & Company and Pfizer, Inc. (http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=9261) Between 1985 and 2001, the Institute received $15,718,040 in 112 grants from ten conservative foundations: Castle Rock Foundation (reformed Coors Foundation), Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, Earhart Foundation, JM Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, Inc., Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, Carthage Foundation, David H Koch Foundation. (http://www.mediatransparency.org/sea...cipient.php?51) The Cato Institute is a member of the State Policy Network 4/04
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Cato has been funded by: Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, Bell Atlantic Network Services, BellSouth Corporation, Digital Equipment Corporation, GTE Corporation, Microsoft Corp- oration, Netscape Communications Corporation, NYNEX Corporation, Sun Microsystems, Viacom International, American Express, Chase Manhattan Bank, Chemical Bank, Citicorp/Citibank, Commonwealth Fund, Prudential Securities and Salomon Brothers. Energy conglomerates include: Chevron Companies, Exxon Company, Shell Oil Company and Tenneco Gas, as well as the American Petroleum Institute, Amoco Foundation and Atlantic Richfield Foundation. Cato's pharmaceutical donors include Eli Lilly & Company, Merck & Company and Pfizer, Inc. (http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=9261) Between 1985 and 2001, the Institute received $15,718,040 in 112 grants from ten conservative foundations: Castle Rock Foundation (reformed Coors Foundation), Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, Earhart Foundation, JM Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, Inc., Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, Carthage Foundation, David H Koch Foundation. (http://www.mediatransparency.org/sea...cipient.php?51) The Cato Institute is a member of the State Policy Network 4/04
Cato has been funded by: Philip Morris, R.J. Reynolds, Bell Atlantic Network Services, BellSouth Corporation, Digital Equipment Corporation, GTE Corporation, Microsoft Corp- oration, Netscape Communications Corporation, NYNEX Corporation, Sun Microsystems, Viacom International, American Express, Chase Manhattan Bank, Chemical Bank, Citicorp/Citibank, Commonwealth Fund, Prudential Securities and Salomon Brothers. Energy conglomerates include: Chevron Companies, Exxon Company, Shell Oil Company and Tenneco Gas, as well as the American Petroleum Institute, Amoco Foundation and Atlantic Richfield Foundation. Cato's pharmaceutical donors include Eli Lilly & Company, Merck & Company and Pfizer, Inc. (http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=9261) Between 1985 and 2001, the Institute received $15,718,040 in 112 grants from ten conservative foundations: Castle Rock Foundation (reformed Coors Foundation), Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, Earhart Foundation, JM Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, Inc., Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation, Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Sarah Scaife Foundation, Carthage Foundation, David H Koch Foundation. (http://www.mediatransparency.org/sea...cipient.php?51) The Cato Institute is a member of the State Policy Network 4/04
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Why BS? Stop the temper tantrums, settle down and think clearly for a change.
Look at the weather in Europe. They are frozen solid. Look at Canada. We are brass-monkeyed too. Even the UN Climax Change clowns did not get their hot weather in Cancun. Does that look like global warming to you?
Facts vs ideological fiction. Facts win.
Look at the weather in Europe. They are frozen solid. Look at Canada. We are brass-monkeyed too. Even the UN Climax Change clowns did not get their hot weather in Cancun. Does that look like global warming to you?
Facts vs ideological fiction. Facts win.
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I went for a fly with my son the other day in his little Pitts & used 80 litres an hour !!
I am not a greeny, just a practical old bloke who is worried about the reason for unusual extended dry periods that have occured in Southern Australia over the last 20 years which have devastated the farming community.
I read the other day that China are building 1000 coal fired power stations next year. India cannot get enough coal , importing it from everywhere. Australia is presently experiencing a mining boom supplying all the iron ore & coal. Mate, I hope that you are correct & that there is no such thing as man induced global warming because there is little willingness amongst industrial & developing nations to make any cuts.
But if you are wrong we are in deep ##@$. They reckon that the worlds ocean currents are a finely balanced phenomenon. Imaging if the current warming Europe & the UK were to stop. A complete freeze over each winter. http://tcktcktck.org/stories/climate...-current-slows
I think we should keep an open mind to what the scientists are saying.
My old Pug is a 4 cyl petrol & a pleasure to drive . We did 450,000 km in our previous 1979 Peugeot 504 without the head coming off. Sold it to an Arab for $1000 to be cut up , put in a container & shipped for spares in Egypt.!!
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from one old bloke to another
I worked for 24 years as a power station operator & burnt 24 million tons of brown coal during that time !. So I am responsible for some of that carbon dioxide build up.!
I went for a fly with my son the other day in his little Pitts & used 80 litres an hour !!
I am not a greeny, just a practical old bloke who is worried about the reason for unusual extended dry periods that have occured in Southern Australia over the last 20 years which have devastated the farming community.
I read the other day that China are building 1000 coal fired power stations next year. India cannot get enough coal , importing it from everywhere. Australia is presently experiencing a mining boom supplying all the iron ore & coal. Mate, I hope that you are correct & that there is no such thing as man induced global warming because there is little willingness amongst industrial & developing nations to make any cuts.
But if you are wrong we are in deep ##@$. They reckon that the worlds ocean currents are a finely balanced phenomenon. Imaging if the current warming Europe & the UK were to stop. A complete freeze over each winter. http://tcktcktck.org/stories/climate...-current-slows
I think we should keep an open mind to what the scientists are saying.
My old Pug is a 4 cyl petrol & a pleasure to drive . We did 450,000 km in our previous 1979 Peugeot 504 without the head coming off. Sold it to an Arab for $1000 to be cut up , put in a container & shipped for spares in Egypt.!!
I went for a fly with my son the other day in his little Pitts & used 80 litres an hour !!
I am not a greeny, just a practical old bloke who is worried about the reason for unusual extended dry periods that have occured in Southern Australia over the last 20 years which have devastated the farming community.
I read the other day that China are building 1000 coal fired power stations next year. India cannot get enough coal , importing it from everywhere. Australia is presently experiencing a mining boom supplying all the iron ore & coal. Mate, I hope that you are correct & that there is no such thing as man induced global warming because there is little willingness amongst industrial & developing nations to make any cuts.
But if you are wrong we are in deep ##@$. They reckon that the worlds ocean currents are a finely balanced phenomenon. Imaging if the current warming Europe & the UK were to stop. A complete freeze over each winter. http://tcktcktck.org/stories/climate...-current-slows
I think we should keep an open mind to what the scientists are saying.
My old Pug is a 4 cyl petrol & a pleasure to drive . We did 450,000 km in our previous 1979 Peugeot 504 without the head coming off. Sold it to an Arab for $1000 to be cut up , put in a container & shipped for spares in Egypt.!!
Global warming, if it exists, will benefit some people and harm others. It will benefit Canada (we can grow more wheat) and hurt some tiny islands in the Pacific because, according to the alarmists, they may be under water in 20 years.
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environmentalism is tough logic
When I left the UK in 1985 rocks of raw coal was still burnt as a heating fuel at the fireplace. All the tarry smoke goes up the chimney and into the atmosphere. There was no catalytic converters on cars and leaded gasoline was standard fare for cars. In Europe some Mercedes were available with a cat as an option. These cars typically had substantially less horsepower.
The industrial revolution ended 200 years ago in Britain and pollution continued there until 20 years ago. How can the west in clear conscience ask the Chinese and the Indians to do what it failed to do?
They can arguably demand the same 200 years of pollution.
The industrial revolution ended 200 years ago in Britain and pollution continued there until 20 years ago. How can the west in clear conscience ask the Chinese and the Indians to do what it failed to do?
They can arguably demand the same 200 years of pollution.
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Possible effects on Canada :- http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...1-dab96e4276af
The argument is like that of the recent dam building in China. It flooded some villages but benefited most Chinese. Ditto with the Hoover Dam building when Americans were fighting for a share of the water resulting from the project.
Present day "environmentalists" trouble-makers are no different from other trouble makers with an agenda. Create conflict to scuttle the common sense majority group requiring proof of this newly coined term "Climate Change". As far as I am concerned there is insufficient evidence for these UN parasites to provide proof.
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Would we not feel very silly if in 10 years' time that "Climate Change", like the second bird flu epidemic proclaimed by Margaret Chan (of WHO, another UN busy body) and never materialized, turns out to be just as much pure and totally unadulterated big government (read UN busy bodies) propaganda?
Once enacted, laws good and very bad, will remain in place forever. Be vigilant!
Once enacted, laws good and very bad, will remain in place forever. Be vigilant!
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While we are all waiting for Climate Change to arrive while shivering in -20 Centigrade temperatures we have to pay out costs associated with big dollar emission equipment which makes cars less reliable. For example the MB Bluetec switch-off function with low urea and the regeneration which tends to clog the DPFs.
No wonder the US governement is discouraging diesel engines. Firstly there is not a single local diesel car produced locally and secondly, local car makers had invested heavily in battery cars.
The Chinese and Indians are more philosophical about this. They are also excellent at emulating what Europe and north America did in the last 200 years, down to the last detail. It is the most sincere form of flattery.
No wonder the US governement is discouraging diesel engines. Firstly there is not a single local diesel car produced locally and secondly, local car makers had invested heavily in battery cars.
The Chinese and Indians are more philosophical about this. They are also excellent at emulating what Europe and north America did in the last 200 years, down to the last detail. It is the most sincere form of flattery.
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Possible effects on Canada :- http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...1-dab96e4276af
There's a mini ice age coming, says
man who beats weather experts
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/we...221-1945a.html
Global warming... Global cooling...?? Nobody really knows with any degree of accuracy because our knowledge and technology just are not up to the challenge.
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On top of that, we have only a pin***** size of history's weather data. From the BC's up until the 1800's the information was no more than people guessing numbers. Even from the 1800's to the 1950's data accuracy is questionable at best since there were no across the board standards or checks set. 50 years of data can't tell us what the earth has in store for us next after 4,600,000,000 years of constant change.
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