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When I first got my bluetec I had to plan ahead for ULSD, that changed last week:
Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Now Mandatory
Dec. 08, 2010
Source: Diesel Technology Forum
December 1st marked a significant milestone for the nation's transition to ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel as all highway diesel fuel in the United States complies with the landmark 15 parts per million (ppm) sulfur standard — a 97 percent reduction in sulfur content from diesel's 2006 levels.
Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Now Mandatory
Dec. 08, 2010
Source: Diesel Technology Forum
December 1st marked a significant milestone for the nation's transition to ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel as all highway diesel fuel in the United States complies with the landmark 15 parts per million (ppm) sulfur standard — a 97 percent reduction in sulfur content from diesel's 2006 levels.
12-10-2010, 08:12 PM
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The sane inhabitants are car crazy and buy lots of fast cars. They are out voted by the car haters and have the worst possible emission regulations in the world. As a result the Republic managed to impose on the rest of America and hence the rest of the world, absolutely rediculous laws. It is a case of the tail wagging the world dog.
I can see your state eventually banning the internal combustion engine before mid-century. I am very happy that I will not live to see that happening and shall drive old old cars to spike the UN tree-huggers holidaying in Cancun right now.
12-11-2010, 02:44 PM
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Try pulling your head out of the sand.
12-12-2010, 09:56 AM
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I can see your state eventually banning the internal combustion engine before mid-century.
You won't be around to see the effects of climate change either but your kids will.
FYI, climate change is an extremely good thing. If it weren't for climate change (the ice age and the current global warming, because the ice age is still ending) the human species wouldn't exist in the first place. Try pulling your head out of the sand and joining the (educated, apolitical) scientific community.
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12-12-2010, 02:30 PM
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Actually, nobody will see the effects since it (the man made idea) is completely false. If your kids can't adapt to the continuously changing planet then they will only increase our chances of becoming extinct as has happened to countless species millions of years before humans ever existed.
FYI, climate change is an extremely good thing. If it weren't for climate change (the ice age and the current global warming, because the ice age is still ending) the human species wouldn't exist in the first place. Try pulling your head out of the sand and joining the (educated, apolitical) scientific community.
FYI, climate change is an extremely good thing. If it weren't for climate change (the ice age and the current global warming, because the ice age is still ending) the human species wouldn't exist in the first place. Try pulling your head out of the sand and joining the (educated, apolitical) scientific community.
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12-13-2010, 03:51 AM
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[QUOTE=240D 3.0T;4408100Actually, nobody will see the effects since it (the man made idea) is completely false. If your kids can't adapt to the continuously changing planet then they will only increase our chances of becoming extinct as has happened to countless species millions of years before humans ever existed.
FYI, climate change is an extremely good thing. If it weren't for climate change (the ice age and the current global warming, because the ice age is still ending) the human species wouldn't exist in the first place. Try pulling your head out of the sand and joining the (educated, apolitical) scientific community.[/QUOTE]
This writer is cleverer than the majority of scientific experts
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The USA has a chance to get in first & be a leader in limiting the effects of climate change.
The USA & world will benifit economically by producing all the new technology & manufacturing which is required.
Unfortunately the country is being held up by backward thinking people who , will religate it to an also-ran behind China , India, Russia & Brazil.
Get your head out of the sand.
FYI, climate change is an extremely good thing. If it weren't for climate change (the ice age and the current global warming, because the ice age is still ending) the human species wouldn't exist in the first place. Try pulling your head out of the sand and joining the (educated, apolitical) scientific community.[/QUOTE]
This writer is cleverer than the majority of scientific experts
. The USA has a chance to get in first & be a leader in limiting the effects of climate change.
The USA & world will benifit economically by producing all the new technology & manufacturing which is required.
Unfortunately the country is being held up by backward thinking people who , will religate it to an also-ran behind China , India, Russia & Brazil.
Get your head out of the sand.
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Acknowledging Recent Natural Cooling
In a paper entitled "A strong bout of natural cooling in 2008," which was published in Geophysical Research Letters, Perlwitz et al. (2009) recount some interesting facts about which many climate alarmists would rather the public remained unaware, including the fact that there was, in Perlwitz et al.'s words, "a precipitous drop in North American temperature in 2008, commingled with a decade-long fall in global mean temperatures."
Perlwitz et al. begin their narrative by noting that there has been "a decade-long decline (1998-2007) in globally averaged temperatures from the record heat of 1998," citing Easterling and Wehner (2009). And in further describing this phenomenon, they say that U.S. temperatures in 2008 "not only declined from near-record warmth of prior years, but were in fact colder than the official 30-year reference climatology (-0.2°C versus the 1971-2000 mean) and further were the coldest since at least 1996."
With respect to the geographical origin of this "natural cooling," as they describe it, the five researchers point to "a widespread coolness of the tropical-wide oceans and the northeastern Pacific," focusing on the Niño 4 region, where they report that "anomalies of about -1.1°C suggest a condition colder than any in the instrumental record since 1871."
So, pushing the cause of the global and U.S. coolings that sparked their original interest back another link in the chain which -- in their estimation -- connects them with other more primary phenomena, they ask themselves what caused these latter anomalous and significant oceanic coolings?
Perlwitz et al. first discount volcanic eruptions, because they say "there were no significant volcanic events in the last few years." Secondly, they write that solar forcing "is also unlikely," because its radiative magnitude is considered to be too weak to elicit such a response. And these two castaway causes thus leave them with "coupled ocean-atmosphere-land variability" as what they consider to be the "most likely" cause of the anomalous coolings.
In regard to these three points, we agree with the first. With respect to Perlwitz et al.'s dismissal of solar forcing, however, we note that the jury is still out with respect to the interaction of the solar wind with the influx of cosmic rays to earth's atmosphere and their subsequent impact on cloud formation, which may yet prove to be substantial. And with respect to their final point, we note that the suite of real-world ocean-atmosphere-land interactions is highly complex and also not fully understood. Indeed, there may even be important phenomena operating within this realm of which the entire scientific community is ignorant. And some of those phenomena may well be strong enough to totally compensate for anthropogenic-induced increases in greenhouse gas emissions, so that other natural phenomena end up dictating the ever-changing state of earth's climate, as could well be what has been happening over the last decade or more.
In light of these considerations, therefore, as well as the substantial strength and longevity of the planet's current cooling phase, the path of wisdom would seem to us to be to wait and see what happens next, in the unfolding biogeophysical drama of earth's ever-changing climatic path to the future, before we undertake to attempt to change what we clearly do not fully comprehend.
Additional Reference
Easterling, D.R. and Wehner, M.F. 2009. Is the climate warming or cooling? Geophysical Research Letters 36: 10.1029/2009GL037810.
http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/...jun2010a1.html
Thom
In a paper entitled "A strong bout of natural cooling in 2008," which was published in Geophysical Research Letters, Perlwitz et al. (2009) recount some interesting facts about which many climate alarmists would rather the public remained unaware, including the fact that there was, in Perlwitz et al.'s words, "a precipitous drop in North American temperature in 2008, commingled with a decade-long fall in global mean temperatures."
Perlwitz et al. begin their narrative by noting that there has been "a decade-long decline (1998-2007) in globally averaged temperatures from the record heat of 1998," citing Easterling and Wehner (2009). And in further describing this phenomenon, they say that U.S. temperatures in 2008 "not only declined from near-record warmth of prior years, but were in fact colder than the official 30-year reference climatology (-0.2°C versus the 1971-2000 mean) and further were the coldest since at least 1996."
With respect to the geographical origin of this "natural cooling," as they describe it, the five researchers point to "a widespread coolness of the tropical-wide oceans and the northeastern Pacific," focusing on the Niño 4 region, where they report that "anomalies of about -1.1°C suggest a condition colder than any in the instrumental record since 1871."
So, pushing the cause of the global and U.S. coolings that sparked their original interest back another link in the chain which -- in their estimation -- connects them with other more primary phenomena, they ask themselves what caused these latter anomalous and significant oceanic coolings?
Perlwitz et al. first discount volcanic eruptions, because they say "there were no significant volcanic events in the last few years." Secondly, they write that solar forcing "is also unlikely," because its radiative magnitude is considered to be too weak to elicit such a response. And these two castaway causes thus leave them with "coupled ocean-atmosphere-land variability" as what they consider to be the "most likely" cause of the anomalous coolings.
In regard to these three points, we agree with the first. With respect to Perlwitz et al.'s dismissal of solar forcing, however, we note that the jury is still out with respect to the interaction of the solar wind with the influx of cosmic rays to earth's atmosphere and their subsequent impact on cloud formation, which may yet prove to be substantial. And with respect to their final point, we note that the suite of real-world ocean-atmosphere-land interactions is highly complex and also not fully understood. Indeed, there may even be important phenomena operating within this realm of which the entire scientific community is ignorant. And some of those phenomena may well be strong enough to totally compensate for anthropogenic-induced increases in greenhouse gas emissions, so that other natural phenomena end up dictating the ever-changing state of earth's climate, as could well be what has been happening over the last decade or more.
In light of these considerations, therefore, as well as the substantial strength and longevity of the planet's current cooling phase, the path of wisdom would seem to us to be to wait and see what happens next, in the unfolding biogeophysical drama of earth's ever-changing climatic path to the future, before we undertake to attempt to change what we clearly do not fully comprehend.
Additional Reference
Easterling, D.R. and Wehner, M.F. 2009. Is the climate warming or cooling? Geophysical Research Letters 36: 10.1029/2009GL037810.
Archived 25 June 2010
http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/...jun2010a1.html
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12-13-2010, 02:57 PM
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Acknowledging Recent Natural Cooling
In a paper entitled "A strong bout of natural cooling in 2008," which was published in Geophysical Research Letters, Perlwitz et al. (2009) recount some interesting facts about which many climate alarmists would rather the public remained unaware, including the fact that there was, in Perlwitz et al.'s words, "a precipitous drop in North American temperature in 2008, commingled with a decade-long fall in global mean temperatures."
Perlwitz et al. begin their narrative by noting that there has been "a decade-long decline (1998-2007) in globally averaged temperatures from the record heat of 1998," citing Easterling and Wehner (2009). And in further describing this phenomenon, they say that U.S. temperatures in 2008 "not only declined from near-record warmth of prior years, but were in fact colder than the official 30-year reference climatology (-0.2°C versus the 1971-2000 mean) and further were the coldest since at least 1996."
With respect to the geographical origin of this "natural cooling," as they describe it, the five researchers point to "a widespread coolness of the tropical-wide oceans and the northeastern Pacific," focusing on the Niño 4 region, where they report that "anomalies of about -1.1°C suggest a condition colder than any in the instrumental record since 1871."
So, pushing the cause of the global and U.S. coolings that sparked their original interest back another link in the chain which -- in their estimation -- connects them with other more primary phenomena, they ask themselves what caused these latter anomalous and significant oceanic coolings?
Perlwitz et al. first discount volcanic eruptions, because they say "there were no significant volcanic events in the last few years." Secondly, they write that solar forcing "is also unlikely," because its radiative magnitude is considered to be too weak to elicit such a response. And these two castaway causes thus leave them with "coupled ocean-atmosphere-land variability" as what they consider to be the "most likely" cause of the anomalous coolings.
In regard to these three points, we agree with the first. With respect to Perlwitz et al.'s dismissal of solar forcing, however, we note that the jury is still out with respect to the interaction of the solar wind with the influx of cosmic rays to earth's atmosphere and their subsequent impact on cloud formation, which may yet prove to be substantial. And with respect to their final point, we note that the suite of real-world ocean-atmosphere-land interactions is highly complex and also not fully understood. Indeed, there may even be important phenomena operating within this realm of which the entire scientific community is ignorant. And some of those phenomena may well be strong enough to totally compensate for anthropogenic-induced increases in greenhouse gas emissions, so that other natural phenomena end up dictating the ever-changing state of earth's climate, as could well be what has been happening over the last decade or more.
In light of these considerations, therefore, as well as the substantial strength and longevity of the planet's current cooling phase, the path of wisdom would seem to us to be to wait and see what happens next, in the unfolding biogeophysical drama of earth's ever-changing climatic path to the future, before we undertake to attempt to change what we clearly do not fully comprehend.
Additional Reference
Easterling, D.R. and Wehner, M.F. 2009. Is the climate warming or cooling? Geophysical Research Letters 36: 10.1029/2009GL037810.
http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/...jun2010a1.html
Thom
In a paper entitled "A strong bout of natural cooling in 2008," which was published in Geophysical Research Letters, Perlwitz et al. (2009) recount some interesting facts about which many climate alarmists would rather the public remained unaware, including the fact that there was, in Perlwitz et al.'s words, "a precipitous drop in North American temperature in 2008, commingled with a decade-long fall in global mean temperatures."
Perlwitz et al. begin their narrative by noting that there has been "a decade-long decline (1998-2007) in globally averaged temperatures from the record heat of 1998," citing Easterling and Wehner (2009). And in further describing this phenomenon, they say that U.S. temperatures in 2008 "not only declined from near-record warmth of prior years, but were in fact colder than the official 30-year reference climatology (-0.2°C versus the 1971-2000 mean) and further were the coldest since at least 1996."
With respect to the geographical origin of this "natural cooling," as they describe it, the five researchers point to "a widespread coolness of the tropical-wide oceans and the northeastern Pacific," focusing on the Niño 4 region, where they report that "anomalies of about -1.1°C suggest a condition colder than any in the instrumental record since 1871."
So, pushing the cause of the global and U.S. coolings that sparked their original interest back another link in the chain which -- in their estimation -- connects them with other more primary phenomena, they ask themselves what caused these latter anomalous and significant oceanic coolings?
Perlwitz et al. first discount volcanic eruptions, because they say "there were no significant volcanic events in the last few years." Secondly, they write that solar forcing "is also unlikely," because its radiative magnitude is considered to be too weak to elicit such a response. And these two castaway causes thus leave them with "coupled ocean-atmosphere-land variability" as what they consider to be the "most likely" cause of the anomalous coolings.
In regard to these three points, we agree with the first. With respect to Perlwitz et al.'s dismissal of solar forcing, however, we note that the jury is still out with respect to the interaction of the solar wind with the influx of cosmic rays to earth's atmosphere and their subsequent impact on cloud formation, which may yet prove to be substantial. And with respect to their final point, we note that the suite of real-world ocean-atmosphere-land interactions is highly complex and also not fully understood. Indeed, there may even be important phenomena operating within this realm of which the entire scientific community is ignorant. And some of those phenomena may well be strong enough to totally compensate for anthropogenic-induced increases in greenhouse gas emissions, so that other natural phenomena end up dictating the ever-changing state of earth's climate, as could well be what has been happening over the last decade or more.
In light of these considerations, therefore, as well as the substantial strength and longevity of the planet's current cooling phase, the path of wisdom would seem to us to be to wait and see what happens next, in the unfolding biogeophysical drama of earth's ever-changing climatic path to the future, before we undertake to attempt to change what we clearly do not fully comprehend.
Additional Reference
Easterling, D.R. and Wehner, M.F. 2009. Is the climate warming or cooling? Geophysical Research Letters 36: 10.1029/2009GL037810.
Archived 25 June 2010
http://www.nipccreport.org/articles/...jun2010a1.html
Thom
Rebuttal :-
http://news.nationalgeographic.com.a...rica-2008.html
12-13-2010, 04:39 PM
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In spite of all the conflicting data (some of which has clearly been manipulated ie., Climategate) and differing points of view, common sense dictates that we do not attempt to change what we clearly do not fully comprehend.
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I am not long in after shoveling snow on my driveway for the last 30 minutes in minus 12 degree Centigrade temperature (colder if counting wind chill factor). Where is this global warming? If it is true I want some right now.
12-13-2010, 11:06 PM
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If the ice age did not end we would still have these giant elephants running wild in Siberia. Imagine what destruction they can do to property. It is great that dinosaurs are extinct too. Evolution never ends and we have to accept it.
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Love my 3/4 Ton!
It weighs 6,000 pounds plus. It does 10 mpg with a 6 liter engine and 6L90E transmission (heaviest duty transmission built by GM). AWD. Prepped with a snow plow package and able to run over Honda Civics, Priuses and other pesky battery cars. Best of all, I can go to work with up to one foot of snow on the ground.
Best of all, with the help of this marvellous machine I can help to burn up all that dirty, dirty fossil fuel lying underground in Saudi Arabia and clean up the environment. When there is no oil left wars will end and American soldiers can go home to their families. I should nominate myself for a Nobel peace prize for my good deeds.
Best of all, with the help of this marvellous machine I can help to burn up all that dirty, dirty fossil fuel lying underground in Saudi Arabia and clean up the environment. When there is no oil left wars will end and American soldiers can go home to their families. I should nominate myself for a Nobel peace prize for my good deeds.
12-14-2010, 12:56 PM
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Okay... first you say,
"The USA has a chance to get in first & be a leader in limiting the effects of climate change."
Then you say,
"Old 'Mother Nature' will have the last laugh."
This is a perfect example of why it's so blatently arrogant of the so-called climate change 'experts' and other alarmists to believe they can 'fix' something they know so little about!
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"The USA has a chance to get in first & be a leader in limiting the effects of climate change."
Then you say,
"Old 'Mother Nature' will have the last laugh."
This is a perfect example of why it's so blatently arrogant of the so-called climate change 'experts' and other alarmists to believe they can 'fix' something they know so little about!
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Environmentalism is a mixture of big business, big politics and therefore big money. The head of the UN on Climate Change (whatever this new grand title means) is one unkempt street bum lookalike by the name of Rajendra Pachauri, a dirty (in more ways then one) opportunistic leech feeding off the environmentalists' paranoia. He took bribe from the "clean energy" businesses and suppressed evidence that do not promote his views. The crazy Swedes then gave him a Nobel "peace" prize for doing the fashionable tree-hugging thing! WTF!
I am not long in after shoveling snow on my driveway for the last 30 minutes in minus 12 degree Centigrade temperature (colder if counting wind chill factor). Where is this global warming? If it is true I want some right now.
I am not long in after shoveling snow on my driveway for the last 30 minutes in minus 12 degree Centigrade temperature (colder if counting wind chill factor). Where is this global warming? If it is true I want some right now.
BTW, we hit a low of 37f here in S. Florida this morning (I have no idea what the wind chill was) and it's only 50f right now. What I can say is the cold wind is blowing right through my old jalousie windows. Thankfully I didn't have to shovel any snow... yet.
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12-14-2010, 02:38 PM
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Good on you Thom , You are cleverer that the majority of climate scientists world wide. Where did you obtain all your experience ? From the republican Think Tank ?
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I'm certainly not any "cleverer" than anyone else. My only hope is that clearer heads prevail on an extremely convoluted issue.
Nice try Carsy but this is not the forum for making political statements and I respectfully decline to comment further.
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Nice try Carsy but this is not the forum for making political statements and I respectfully decline to comment further.
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12-14-2010, 10:22 PM
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By the time 51 % of our political leaders heads are clear it will be too late.
http://environment.nationalgeographi...ng/gw-effects/
http://environment.nationalgeographi...ng/gw-effects/
12-14-2010, 10:31 PM
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By the time 51 % of our political leaders heads are clear it will be too late.
http://environment.nationalgeographi...ng/gw-effects/
http://environment.nationalgeographi...ng/gw-effects/
Please see:
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...b-bd9faf4dcdb7
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What "majority"? You mean the politically vocal ones wanting grant money?
Impossible unless they have figured out a way to alter the sun and earth's relationship.
Humm, isn't manufacturing what supposedly caused the whole thing?
So by that logic wouldn't it make sense to STOP making things?
I strongly suggest you do. Please look at actual scientific data rather than cable news reports.
Bad news...the Ice Age hasn't ended yet. We are only on the tail end of it. There are periods in earth's history where paleontological data shows the earth had no cold season at all. You know what happened during those "hot" periods? Life flourished!
Remember the whole "o-zone layer is disappearing" panic? When is the last time you heard anything about that on the news?
I hope you have enough money to pay them all.
Thats your problem. Try using a modern browser.
The USA has a chance to get in first & be a leader in limiting the effects of climate change.
The USA & world will benifit economically by producing all the new technology & manufacturing which is required.
So by that logic wouldn't it make sense to STOP making things?
Get your head out of the sand.
Bad news...the Ice Age hasn't ended yet. We are only on the tail end of it. There are periods in earth's history where paleontological data shows the earth had no cold season at all. You know what happened during those "hot" periods? Life flourished!
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12-17-2010, 02:31 PM
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You certainly have ALL the answers to everything.Ha! Ha !
Your logic is overpowering !!
I will buy your book when it is released.
You could save the world & make a fortune !!!!!!!!!
Your logic is overpowering !!
I will buy your book when it is released.
You could save the world & make a fortune !!!!!!!!!
