Tuning A Blue Tec
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Tuning A Blue Tec
Hey everyone,
I've been considering a newer model E class diesel. I love my E300, just redid the headgasket, cooling system, etc. but I'm wanting some more power and just something newer in general.
I'm reluctant to go with anything newer than a 2006 CDI because I like to modify my cars and play with the exhaust systems. Whatever I get will have a 3" straight pipe exhaust with just a muffler at the end. My understanding is that if I install straight pipes on a Blue Tec it will throw all sorts of codes. Is anyone aware of a tuning program that will eliminate any throwing of codes if I eliminate the emissions controls on a Blue Tec?
I've been considering a newer model E class diesel. I love my E300, just redid the headgasket, cooling system, etc. but I'm wanting some more power and just something newer in general.
I'm reluctant to go with anything newer than a 2006 CDI because I like to modify my cars and play with the exhaust systems. Whatever I get will have a 3" straight pipe exhaust with just a muffler at the end. My understanding is that if I install straight pipes on a Blue Tec it will throw all sorts of codes. Is anyone aware of a tuning program that will eliminate any throwing of codes if I eliminate the emissions controls on a Blue Tec?
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Think most Blue TEC models have the urea injection and if the computer doesn't like what it sees with the exhaust, it disables the engine after 20 starts. See this post.
Maybe easier to play with the fuel rail pressure with a tuner box. Some have good results going that route.
Maybe easier to play with the fuel rail pressure with a tuner box. Some have good results going that route.
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Thanks for the response and post DGI. One of the reasons I will want to reprogram the computer is to eliminate any and all need to replace the urea injection system when something fails. My plan to remap the computer would be at the point I need to replace a cataylst or sensor or whatever in the exhaust system.
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Think most Blue TEC models have the urea injection and if the computer doesn't like what it sees with the exhaust, it disables the engine after 20 starts. See this post.
Maybe easier to play with the fuel rail pressure with a tuner box. Some have good results going that route.
Maybe easier to play with the fuel rail pressure with a tuner box. Some have good results going that route.
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I bought a large 2.5 gallon jug of urea today in Canadian Tire for a friend of mine with a 2011 GL 320 (maybe 350?) for CD$25. This works out to be $2.38 per liter which is way more expensive than diesel fuel in Toronto (today's price $1.20 per liter). Does anyone know how much the DEF cost over say, 10,000 miles?
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I bought a large 2.5 gallon jug of urea today in Canadian Tire for a friend of mine with a 2011 GL 320 (maybe 350?) for CD$25. This works out to be $2.38 per liter which is way more expensive than diesel fuel in Toronto (today's price $1.20 per liter). Does anyone know how much the DEF cost over say, 10,000 miles?
With "normal" driving a tankful of DEF (about 6 to 7 gallons) lasts somewhere around 10,000 miles.My hunch is that those with a lead foot,for example,get fewer miles.I recently bought a 2.5 gallon jug at a US Walmart for $12 US.If you guys have Walmart up there DEF would probably be similiarly priced.
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I just got an E350 BlueTEC (W212) yesterday and started to look around for a tuning chip. So far I've found the following:
Brabus ECO PowerXtra ($1k+)
Racechip / Raceship Pro ($170+)
Pro Bitz ($160+)
Kleeman KD / Diesel Power ($650+)
TMC Motorsport ($477+)
DTK Digital ($577+)
I haven't been able to find many reviews on any of them. Many are mixed reviews and few with dyno results. Also, there seems to be some discussion in the quality of diesel fuel in the US versus the rest of the world. The other option is to go with an ECU remap and dyno tune along the lines of a RENNTech tune but while you may get dramatically increased performance you may not get an MPG improvement hence "your mileage may vary".
Any thoughts?
Brabus ECO PowerXtra ($1k+)
Racechip / Raceship Pro ($170+)
Pro Bitz ($160+)
Kleeman KD / Diesel Power ($650+)
TMC Motorsport ($477+)
DTK Digital ($577+)
I haven't been able to find many reviews on any of them. Many are mixed reviews and few with dyno results. Also, there seems to be some discussion in the quality of diesel fuel in the US versus the rest of the world. The other option is to go with an ECU remap and dyno tune along the lines of a RENNTech tune but while you may get dramatically increased performance you may not get an MPG improvement hence "your mileage may vary".
Any thoughts?
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If you like tuning and your used to the older stuff stay far away from the current generation diesels. Nothing is cheap on them, and not much can be done. The whole point of the modern diesel is to be clean burning, if you start removing those systems why not stick with the older versions that don't have them in the first place? The inline motors were still very easy to tune (2005 E320), after that the V6 gets complicated and few people have tuned them. The bluetecs get very complicated and even fewer have played with them...I find the bluetecs use about 10L every service (2.5 gallons per 10k miles).
I honestly think if you get a 2005-6 e320 you'll find the power is plenty, it has a good amount more the the older diesels!
I honestly think if you get a 2005-6 e320 you'll find the power is plenty, it has a good amount more the the older diesels!
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I was qouted $2800 just for Brabus D6 S to be shipped to be without install 
Still looking at options on what to install on the w221 bluetec.
At this point racechip seems to be the best bang for the buck option.
Still looking at options on what to install on the w221 bluetec.
At this point racechip seems to be the best bang for the buck option.
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[quote=hoshi;5146563]I just got an E350 BlueTEC (W212) yesterday and started to look around for a tuning chip. So far I've found the following:
Brabus ECO PowerXtra ($1k+)
Racechip / Raceship Pro ($170+)
Pro Bitz ($160+)
Kleeman KD / Diesel Power ($650+)
TMC Motorsport ($477+)
DTK Digital ($577+)
quote]
Have you tried Eurocharged, I believe they have tuned a few of these
Brabus ECO PowerXtra ($1k+)
Racechip / Raceship Pro ($170+)
Pro Bitz ($160+)
Kleeman KD / Diesel Power ($650+)
TMC Motorsport ($477+)
DTK Digital ($577+)
quote]
Have you tried Eurocharged, I believe they have tuned a few of these
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My E300 currently has a Powerchip ECU flash. I like it. Gave my car a little extra pep that it needed.
I think if I were to get a CDI or Bluetech I would go with the Kleeman KD Box. Or, I would call the rep at Powerchip to see what they offer. An ECU reflash can also remove any error codes if you decide to make any mods to the engine, exhaust, etc.
I think if I were to get a CDI or Bluetech I would go with the Kleeman KD Box. Or, I would call the rep at Powerchip to see what they offer. An ECU reflash can also remove any error codes if you decide to make any mods to the engine, exhaust, etc.
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I don't really understand why you are bashing me, newbie. I was able to eliminate the EGR function on my E300 via a reporgram of the ECU. This thread was started to inquire if any forum members have done emissions control reprogramming via the ECU to one of their newer diesels with success.
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I don't really understand why you are bashing me, newbie. I was able to eliminate the EGR function on my E300 via a reporgram of the ECU. This thread was started to inquire if any forum members have done emissions control reprogramming via the ECU to one of their newer diesels with success.
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Remapping can be done on newest diesels and you can change so many parameters and delete some. In fact they are able to break latest protection on newest Bosch edc17 ecu with tuning protection 10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9v2D_Qm2lr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9v2D_Qm2lr4
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Remapping can be done on newest diesels and you can change so many parameters and delete some. In fact they are able to break latest protection on newest Bosch edc17 ecu with tuning protection 10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9v2D_Qm2lr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9v2D_Qm2lr4
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I'm not interseted in warranties. I DIY and have a good indy.
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Any idea how this can apply to us? I know there are forums out there for hacking and modifying custom ECU files, but the OM642 seems either too expensive/rare for that community to have actually done anything for it. I've seen plenty of the files for the 2 Liter Diesel MB sells though..
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Ok so I tried Speedbuster/tmc motorsport and DTUK. First one is rubbish and not noticeable at all. When cranked up it makes the engine behave erratically.
DTUK works awesome and worth the money. This engine has so much potential which is unleashed by DTUK. Got the DTUK through Andrew.
I use DTUK with map 3 and planning on going to plus 10% soon.
I am loving this tune on my s350.
DTUK works awesome and worth the money. This engine has so much potential which is unleashed by DTUK. Got the DTUK through Andrew.
I use DTUK with map 3 and planning on going to plus 10% soon.
I am loving this tune on my s350.
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Alright guys, its that time ! Gonna be trading the car in for a CLS and thus have to let go of this Diesel Piggy back tuner chip. Will be listing it in classified but wanted to give a heads up before I do that.
It is us DTUK Multichannel unit:
http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/...-cdi-v6-235-ps
Letting it go for $450 shipped.
PM in case you have questions.
It is us DTUK Multichannel unit:
http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/...-cdi-v6-235-ps
Letting it go for $450 shipped.
PM in case you have questions.
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