Diesel Forum Forum for Diesel engine vehicle related discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Testing OM642 compression

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 11:04 AM
  #1  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
Testing OM642 compression

Can anyone suggest appropriate adapter to test engine compression? It has to be via the glow plug and that's M8x1.00.
few that I found on ebay have a short thread which makes me cautious but glow plug thread is short too so perhaps my concern of the adapter flying out and destroying the threads isn't valid.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 11:49 AM
  #2  
John CC's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 530
From: New Hampsha
'17 GLS450, '14 GLK250, Grandpa's Roadster
Originally Posted by GoodByeHonda
perhaps my concern of the adapter flying out and destroying the threads isn't valid.
Yeah, this. As long as you don't inject any fuel into the cylinder, and get combustion, your compression pressure should be in the range of around 500 psi. The area of an 8mm fitting is around 0.08 square inches, so the actual force on the threads is roughly 40 lbs.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 12:04 PM
  #3  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
So pulling the fuse off the electrical fuel pump and I'm good to go.👍 Thanks
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 12:08 PM
  #4  
John CC's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 530
From: New Hampsha
'17 GLS450, '14 GLK250, Grandpa's Roadster
Don't know. Some high pressure pumps can draw enough fuel without a transfer pump to cause trouble, Better if you can disable the injectors directly, but, then, maybe it won't crank, either.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 12:21 PM
  #5  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,712
Likes: 4,606
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
What is the reason to check compression? What prompts the desire to check it?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 12:38 PM
  #6  
kajtek1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 9,225
Likes: 1,798
From: V E G A S
1922 Ford Model T / no OBD
You better get proper scanner for the test.
Those engines can have simulated compression test, where computer compares rpm while turning each cylinder.
Takes about a minute, once you have scanner set up.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 02:38 PM
  #7  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
With this car, when the engine is cold, running MB xentry compression test suggests running compression on all cylinders. But when the engine is warm, the das crank test passes.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 04:25 PM
  #8  
kajtek1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 9,225
Likes: 1,798
From: V E G A S
1922 Ford Model T / no OBD
Originally Posted by GoodByeHonda
With this car, when the engine is cold, running MB xentry compression test suggests running compression on all cylinders. But when the engine is warm, the das crank test passes.
English please?
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

 
story-4

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 04:42 PM
  #9  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
Run the simulated compression test utilizing my MB xentry on a cold and warm engine. Test fails on a cold engine ( I get a difference of 22 rpms and should be under 7 if i recall correctly) and suggests I do compression on all 6 cylinders. But the car runs well when cold and warm.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 09:00 PM
  #10  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,712
Likes: 4,606
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
Why are you going down the path of measuring compression? What is the genesis of the idea?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 10:12 PM
  #11  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
Right after completing the oil cooler seals change, the car would not start. Star diagnostics begins with running the simulated compression test. Results of that test on a cold engine suggested performing compression test.

Last edited by GoodByeHonda; Sep 23, 2021 at 10:14 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2021 | 10:42 PM
  #12  
kajtek1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 9,225
Likes: 1,798
From: V E G A S
1922 Ford Model T / no OBD
Is it 1 cylinder showing 22 rpm difference from others, or more of them?
When gauged compression test will be more accurate, it will not fix bad cylinders.
22 on 7 allowable doesn't mean the engine is bad, just has weaker cylinder.
What is mileage and history of the engine?
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2021 | 09:55 AM
  #13  
John CC's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 530
From: New Hampsha
'17 GLS450, '14 GLK250, Grandpa's Roadster
Cold compression checks are not very informative. How does it do when warm?
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 01:19 PM
  #14  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
Originally Posted by kajtek1
Is it 1 cylinder showing 22 rpm difference from others, or more of them?
When gauged compression test will be more accurate, it will not fix bad cylinders.
22 on 7 allowable doesn't mean the engine is bad, just has weaker cylinder.
What is mileage and history of the engine?
have a peak at the attached images. The test was done with the engine being off for 3 days.



Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 01:38 PM
  #15  
chassis's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
MBWorld Ambassador

5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 14,712
Likes: 4,606
From: unbegrenzt
2017 GLE350 4MATIC
Interesting, thanks. Now what?
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 01:50 PM
  #16  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
The car runs great now. Warm or cold. But for curiosity I will check compression once I get the compression adapter. So far, this one seems to be the best imho but I'm failing to understand why the tester has to be long enough to reach the compression chamber.
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2021 | 12:34 AM
  #17  
Misha_'s Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 118
Likes: 25
2012 GL350, 2014 GLK250
Originally Posted by GoodByeHonda
The car runs great now. Warm or cold. But for curiosity I will check compression once I get the compression adapter. So far, this one seems to be the best imho but I'm failing to understand why the tester has to be long enough to reach the compression chamber.
Did you end up doing the compression test?
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2021 | 01:41 PM
  #18  
GoodByeHonda's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 305
Likes: 42
W211 E320 Diesel OM642
Not yet. Car runs great. I will eventually get the adapted ...
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:30 PM.

story-0
New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's updated GLE 63 S and GLS 63 bring a new-generation V8, subtle design revisions, and familiar supercar-rivaling performance figures.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-17 12:52:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

Slideshow: Mercedes has never been afraid to experiment, and some of its strangest ideas turned out to be surprisingly successful.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 17:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-2
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

Sideshow: A Middle Eastern tuner has transformed the Mercedes-AMG G 63 into an open-top special, replacing nearly every exterior panel in the process.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 15:29:50


VIEW MORE
story-3
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

Slideshow: Six gift ideas your AMG loving dad or grad will cherish.

By | 2026-06-03 17:26:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-5
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-7
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE