larrygaddis

When can we expect to see the first real picture of the 2013 Mercedes E-Class. I'm taking delivery of a '13 E350 coupe on September 5th, (87 days from today) so surely at least a few prototypes have already been built. Rumors abound, but I haven't seen an actual picture anywhere.

nawlinstornado

Based on what I've seen of the E-sedan for 2013, I doubt the coupe will change much. Maybe just a few more tweaks like the marker lights that have changed every year.

emdem

Sooo... you ordered a car and you don't know what it looks like?

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...n-January-2013

I'm glad I got a 2012...

larrygaddis

It's actually worse than that. I ordered the car and don't know for sure the exact price since 2013 base pricing for the E-class hasn't come out yet. In addition, the MSRPs for the options are listed, but not guaranteed. It's always risky to make big decisions based on faith, but sometimes unavoidable. Thanks for the great link.

4MaticCoupe

If you carefully read the link, you'll see that these 'facelifted' E's don't go on sale IN EUROPE until next spring (sedan), summer (wagon), and fall (AMG and 4MATIC). There is no/NO mention of the Coupes in this article. The MY '13 E's destined for the U.S. will not look like these artist renditions.

emdem

I hope not...

petee1997

I have a 2013 E350 coupe 4M on order with a revised build date of June 25th. This car will be exactly like the 2012 except for some small updates on the software and graphics. There will most probably be a small price increase.

4MaticCoupe

As the 2012 E350C4 was only 'launched' a few months ago, would you expect anything more than the appropriate alpha/numeric change to a character in the VIN?

petee1997

No

BenzMan369

Don't sweat the price. I had to do the same thing, ordering a '12 in June '11 for August '11 delivery. All I had in writing was that I was getting -7% off MSRP, plus tax and tags, period. The dealer guesstimated that the price increase would be small and he was right, in fact he was a bit higher than the actual final MSRP. As Petee says, I doubt the increase will be significant.

I'm glad to hear no major design changes for '13. And if they do make some of the design changes we've tentatively seen for the '14 models, I'll be even more glad I have the 12-13 style.

Good luck with your order. The hardest part is the waiting. I think Albert Einstein said it best, "Time slows down as we approach the moment of delivery." Or something like that.

bigh123

Benzman,

besides 7% off were you able to get USAA pricing or conquest on your 2012 last year? I am in the same boat with a 2013 e350 coming next week. I'm afraid that MB will not give any rebates. They are essentially saying I have to pay 3k (no rebates) more for the same car as a 2012, but if I was a couple of months earlier and ordered a 2012 I would get the rebate. Sucks.

BenzMan369

No, neither USAA nor Conquest. I was pretty much in the same boat as you are now. Had I earlier ordered or taken delivery of a 2011 in-inventory model, Conquest would have been available. But I knew about the significant power train upgrades, plus the first time availability of red leather in the U.S. for the ECoupe/Cab, so I paid up for the '12.

I hope you were able to at least negotiate a decent price for your '13. That's not always easy when getting one of the first cars of a new model year.

I had zero problems getting the so-called "Invoice Price" discount when I ordered, even though I got the first '12 through the port with black/red leather. But, that may have more to do with my long relationship with my dealer than anything else.

bigh123

I wish the dealers were more straight with me and said USAA discount or conquest will probably not be available for your 2013 cause its early. One seem to think that there would be some kind of USAA discount for the 2013.

4MaticCoupe

In my talks with two different dealerships, both have intimated that being a member of USAA would be very beneficial ... and my talks have been specific to a MY '13 acquisition. Regarding the conquest pricing ... it seems to me that this incentive comes and goes, with no apparent rhyme nor reason as to who offers it ... when it is offered ... or why it is offered. One dealer near me advertised it in a Customer Appreciation Event newsletter back in March and hasn't mentioned it again. BenzMan posted a thread from one of his area dealers back in the May/June timeframe advertising it. Looks to me to be something that the individual dealers can offer at their discretion.

BenzMan369

To be honest, I'm not very familiar with how the USAA discount program works, not being a member. I guess they can only do according to what Mercedes does.

Yes, not all dealers - even Mercedes, it seems - are created equal when it comes to negotiating fair deals and receiving decent follow-up treatment. I learned that lesson early when I first began shopping Mercedes several years ago.

Good luck with your new car. Even if it's more costly than you'd like, I know it's an exciting time for you.

Please post pix if and when convenient. Yours could be the first or one of the first '13's to appear here.

BenzMan369

From what I've gathered loitering in these forums for a year+, Conquest is offered by MB when they need to bump up sales or compete with special offers by other manufacturers.

Also seems to be optional with the dealer as to whether or not they will pass it along to the buyer. Some have said they've had dealers give them the Conquest deal, but then not take anything off the MSRP. That's contrary to my understanding that Conquest is supposed to be a bonus rebate on top of any negotiated deals.

Even with Mercedes, not all dealers are created equal, for sure.

petee1997

Look at the positive side. How much would it cost to trade your 2012 model on a 2013. The 3k may not look like much of a bargain then.

larrygaddis

That's a great point Petee? I heard that final pricing for the 2013 e-class would be coming out this week. Should be interesting.

MinnBobber

Or looking at it another way, what's going to be the value of your 2013 E in a couple years vs the value of a 2012 you would have purchased instead. Probably worth much more than $3k over a 2012.

BenzMan369

+1 Peetee and MinnBobber. Excellent and often overlooked points. Especially for those who trade often.