This Took Me By Surprise, an E Class smaller than a C Class ?
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This Took Me By Surprise, an E Class smaller than a C Class ?
I have always loved the design of the C207, especially the cabriolets, it is one of the few cars that always catches my eye, it is just so damn sexy. So when i saw this it was a bit of a shock. I was browsing around MBUSA looking at all the vehicle specifications and i saw that the C class coupe is actually wider and almost exactly the same length as the E class coupe. For some reason i always thought the C207 was as wide as the W212 being 72.9". But the W212 is more than 2 inches wider than the coupe. And 2" changes a vehicle from a compact car to a mid sized car, add another 2" and its becomes a full size vehicle as in the S class being 74.7".
So i just want to play devils advocate here. What is the main reason people gravitate towards the E coupe ? Given the fact that it is over 10k more than the C class, and is smaller in size. And if the V8 is the reason, one can get a C 63 coupe for just 7K more than a E550. So i would like to know what do W207 owners love most about their cars, and what made you go with the coupe over the other options in the Mercedez-Benz line up?
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So i just want to play devils advocate here. What is the main reason people gravitate towards the E coupe ? Given the fact that it is over 10k more than the C class, and is smaller in size. And if the V8 is the reason, one can get a C 63 coupe for just 7K more than a E550. So i would like to know what do W207 owners love most about their cars, and what made you go with the coupe over the other options in the Mercedez-Benz line up?
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I believe I read somewhere the E coupe is based on the previous W204 C class chassis. That may be why it's similar in size to the current C coupe.
Maybe the next E couple will be based on W213 chassis.
Maybe the next E couple will be based on W213 chassis.
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I thought it was common knowledge that the present / outgoing E class coupe is based on C class chassis. So I wouldn't be surprised if the newer C class coupe is larger than the outgoing E version. I believe the E will have better NVH levels and smoother engine as mentioned above. C looks trendy and contemporary though.
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I thought it was common knowledge that the present / outgoing E class coupe is based on C class chassis. So I wouldn't be surprised if the newer C class coupe is larger than the outgoing E version. I believe the E will have better NVH levels and smoother engine as mentioned above. C looks trendy and contemporary though.
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E coupe is sitting on a c class chassis, hence the size.
imo, interior is better, exterior is waaaaaay sexier than the c coupe. and the main reason why i shy away from a c coupe, NOT PILLARLESS.
imo, interior is better, exterior is waaaaaay sexier than the c coupe. and the main reason why i shy away from a c coupe, NOT PILLARLESS.
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While I've been very happy with my E coupe, I'm looking forward to seeing the next iteration, reportedly based on a form of the new (2017) E Class full-sized sedan chassis, with increases in size and interior space and important tweaks to the suspension. My kidneys will appreciate that last one.
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100% correct on all points, IMO.
While I've been very happy with my E coupe, I'm looking forward to seeing the next iteration, reportedly based on a form of the new (2017) E Class full-sized sedan chassis, with increases in size and interior space and important tweaks to the suspension. My kidneys will appreciate that last one.
While I've been very happy with my E coupe, I'm looking forward to seeing the next iteration, reportedly based on a form of the new (2017) E Class full-sized sedan chassis, with increases in size and interior space and important tweaks to the suspension. My kidneys will appreciate that last one.
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Also, and again IMO, rough is not quite the right word. On fairly decent roads the suspension is smooth as silk and the handling that goes along with it is excellent. My criticism mainly applies to less-than-perfectly-paved roads, which we are cursed with in abundance around here.
Note - all my comments are with the car equipped with the AMG sport package, including the 18" AMG wheels, low profile original equipment Pirelli P Zero Nero all-season tires and stiffer sport suspension with slightly lower chassis. The car does have a softer ride with 17" wheels and standard suspension, but IMO looks awful that way. Switching to Michelin tires can also help the sport package feel more forgiving.
I've gotten used to the stiffer ride now and am not sorry I bought the car that way, because of the better looks.
The rumor is that the new 2018 E Coupe suspension will be based upon that of the re-engineered 2017 E Class Sedan. MB is probably well aware that quite a few W212 drivers are disappointed with the ride quality of the Sport version of the suspension (see the W212 Forum here) and are going to address this in the W213. We should know how effectively this plays out very soon.
Hope this helps.
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~ and i love the firmness/crispness of the suspension ride on my e400 coupe... feels connected to the road and on the sport side versus a luxury floater.
it's just what one prefers and perhaps what one drove prior to determine our preferences.
it's just what one prefers and perhaps what one drove prior to determine our preferences.
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Great analysis. Thought the front page would be interested too...
https://mbworld.org/articles/e-class...based-c-class/
https://mbworld.org/articles/e-class...based-c-class/
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Note - all my comments are with the car equipped with the AMG sport package, including the 18" AMG wheels, low profile original equipment Pirelli P Zero Nero all-season tires and stiffer sport suspension with slightly lower chassis. The car does have a softer ride with 17" wheels and standard suspension, but IMO looks awful that way. Switching to Michelin tires can also help the sport package feel more forgiving.
I've gotten used to the stiffer ride now and am not sorry I bought the car that way, because of the better looks.
I've gotten used to the stiffer ride now and am not sorry I bought the car that way, because of the better looks.
And if MB makes an E coupe based on the W213 chasis, which im sure they will, the only way i will get one is if they make it diesel. However, i think there is no way MB will sell a diesel sports coupe in the USA, which is a shame. Europeans and Aussies get all the fun.
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I love the idea of taking a very powerful motor (TTV8 or V6) and
putting it in a smaller car (C frame). Then finish it with the E standards
and style. Add a slightly better suspension for good handling without
overkill like AMG (C63).
Wow perfect car ..... IMO.
And the icing on the cake = last wk went 12.44 in the 1/4 mile !
Doesn't get much better.
putting it in a smaller car (C frame). Then finish it with the E standards
and style. Add a slightly better suspension for good handling without
overkill like AMG (C63).
Wow perfect car ..... IMO.
And the icing on the cake = last wk went 12.44 in the 1/4 mile !
Doesn't get much better.
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You are absolutely right on about that one, 17 inch and 18 inch wheels make a huge difference in the ride quality of th E Class. And you are also correct in the fact that 17s do not look as nice, however i decided to stick with the factory 17s on my W212 because it feels like im driving on clouds (and i do not want to lose that) i drove an E 350 with 18s and it was a huge difference.
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No perhaps about it! What you get used to over time tends to affect your initial impressions of a new car immensely. Good point.
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I love the idea of taking a very powerful motor (TTV8 or V6) and
putting it in a smaller car (C frame). Then finish it with the E standards
and style. Add a slightly better suspension for good handling without
overkill like AMG (C63).
Wow perfect car ..... IMO.
And the icing on the cake = last wk went 12.44 in the 1/4 mile !
Doesn't get much better.
putting it in a smaller car (C frame). Then finish it with the E standards
and style. Add a slightly better suspension for good handling without
overkill like AMG (C63).
Wow perfect car ..... IMO.
And the icing on the cake = last wk went 12.44 in the 1/4 mile !
Doesn't get much better.
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The difference in size is miniscule. 2/10s of an inch in width and the E coupe is actually a tad longer. I wouldn't really say the E coupe is smaller though. I'd say they're about the same dimensions.
Pretty happy with my E550 Coupe.
Pretty happy with my E550 Coupe.
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I have always pictured owning an E 63 estate / wagon in matte selenite grey designo, slammed on bags with 20s. One day 
In my opinion, i think the best set up for the E class is having the sports package with 17 inch wheels, which is what i did. You get the best of both worlds, comfort and agility. I want 19s so much but I think MB made the W212 suspension quite stiff so stock is where i shall remain. The main reason (besides the diesel powertrain) i purchased the E class was for comfort.
Regarding the 17's not looking as nice, actually for some reason I have less objection to them with the E Sedan, so I wouldn't mind them all that much on a nice car like yours, if it meant getting the ride quality one expects from a Mercedes. But over the past 5 years I've seen one (and only one) E Coupe with the 17's, higher suspension and non-AMG style wheels. Boy that car just didn't look right to me! It's not a car I'd look at again.
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I have always pictured owning an E 63 estate / wagon in matte selenite grey designo, slammed on bags with 20s. One day
In my opinion, i think the best set up for the E class is having the sports package with 17 inch wheels, which is what i did. You get the best of both worlds, comfort and agility. I want 19s so much but I think MB made the W212 suspension quite stiff so stock is where i shall remain. The main reason (besides the diesel powertrain) i purchased the E class was for comfort.
In my opinion, i think the best set up for the E class is having the sports package with 17 inch wheels, which is what i did. You get the best of both worlds, comfort and agility. I want 19s so much but I think MB made the W212 suspension quite stiff so stock is where i shall remain. The main reason (besides the diesel powertrain) i purchased the E class was for comfort.
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In my opinion, i think the best set up for the E class is having the sports package with 17 inch wheels, which is what i did. You get the best of both worlds, comfort and agility. I want 19s so much but I think MB made the W212 suspension quite stiff so stock is where i shall remain. The main reason (besides the diesel powertrain) i purchased the E class was for comfort.
