Gerry_T

If the car is ordered with the 20" wheels and summer tires, is there any need for there to be a different offset for the front vs backs. I'm hoping no so they can be rotated. Delivery of my E53 Cabriolet is targeted for early December and I'm in Canada, I want to make sure I have the correct configuration on standby.

menchaman

I'm quite sure that all Mercedes 20"rims have staggered configuration (font 8, rear 9 inch width). That makes front to rear rotating impossible. You can still do side to side (definitely not the same thing). They also need different profile on 4matic vehicles.

Gerry_T

The Mercedes offering are 245/40R19's on 2 different 19" rims, so I'm guessing there is some offset requirement but they aren't very clear.

jerrya

This is from the MBUSA.com site. I hope it helps. This site has NOT been updated to 2019 yet.

I have looked at a few tire web sites and can't find the the MO Pilot Alipin 5s or the MOE Sottozero 3s.
(MO = Mercedes OEM approved/custom part, MOE = Mercedes OEM Extended mobility [run flat] custom part.)
I expect this could change in the near future.

The staggered set is also listed for the 2018 E43 Sedan.
I expect to use the staggered set on my E53 when they release it from Baltimore.
*** Warning *** I was wrong. These DO NOT FIT the E53.
These wheels have too much offset and interfere with the suspension arms.


The rumor is that the standard 4Matic starts at a 50:50 torque split, but the E43/E53 AMG 4Matic+ is rear biased.
This could cause faster rear tire wear.
Because the tires are unidirectional, the assembly is corner specific and cannot be rotate.

T

The following should also work, but they are not listed for the E43.
They are also unidirectional, but could be rotated front to rear.
I expect that the could be tail happy with the E43/E53 4Matic+

jerrya

Guess what? You are right and I was wrong. The Snow tire package wheels have a different offset and don't fit the E53.

jerkku74

Gerry_T

Thanks for the conformation. I actually went into the dealership and looked at their kit. Although the documentation had different part numbers for the front and back (but the same size), the actual kit had 4 wheels with the same part number. I think that confirms your findings.

DFW_Neal

Anyone in the US figure out if there is a set of Winter Tires for the E53? Won’t be long. I’ve looked and can’t find a set of 4 that would match the tires on there now. I can find front or rear but not the same tire that fits both. If someone has found a wheel/winter tire set that works, love to hear about it. Thanks

jerrya

This applies to the E53 ONLY!

First:
Get a set of staggered 19" wheels for your E53. The wheels for the other Es will probably NOT fit.
You will also need the pressure / temperature senders and center caps.

Option 1 Runflats: (This is what I have and what I think Mercedes wants.)
Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3 Run Flat marked MOE (Mercedes Oem Extended run)
Front 245-40R19, Rear 275-35R19, V speed, XL Xtra Load.

Option 2: Conventional snow tires and...
Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 (PA5?) may be marked MO (Mercedes Oem)
Front 245-40R19, Rear 275-35R19, V speed, XL Xtra Load.
An air compressor, hose, and can of fix a flat. (These fit in an indentation under the trunk floor.)

The tires are now readily available from Mercedes parts, Tire Rack and other tire stores.
The wheels, air compressor, and fix a flat are available from Mercedes parts.

The Pirelli run flats steering feel is only fair (rubbery), but you can drive to a Mercede dealer after you stick a piece of steel through the sidewall.
I would expect the Michelins to have better performance and steering feel.
I have only used the air compressor to fill my sisters exercise ball.

Hope this helps.

DFW_Neal

That was exactly what I was looking for. Thinking I’ll get the conventional tires. I only need to use the run flats on my previous Mercedes and it was great. Just like you said. Had the wheel and tire too, so no cost either.

Thanks!