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Old 03-31-2019, 11:53 AM
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E450 coupe to E53 retrofit pics + spacers and more

Just want to share with you guys
I love it

E450 to E53 retrofit

Full Suntek PPF wrap
3 layers of ceramic coating
Taillights light dark PPF wrap
H&R 13mm spacers for front and rear
Ichiba 55mm black lug bolts
AMG steering wheel
Panamericana grille











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Nice job. Your ride looks GREAT. I especially like the grill conversion. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice job. Your ride looks GREAT. I especially like the grill conversion. Thanks for sharing.
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H&R 13mm spacers for front and rear
Ichiba 55mm black lug bolts
Make sure wheels are secured. Bolts must protrude through the wheels by not less than 20mm. Above bolts are 3mm too short (stock bolts are 45mm). 60mm (not sure if anyone makes 58mm) bolts should be used.
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Make sure wheels are secured. Bolts must protrude through the wheels by not less than 20mm. Above bolts are 3mm too short (stock bolts are 45mm). 60mm (not sure if anyone makes 58mm) bolts should be used.
thank you. Yes I know that
here is what H&R says

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Originally Posted by FedM
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here is what H&R says
Yes I know what H&R says, however your MB was delivered with 45mm bolts stock with full 20mm protrusion of the bolts through stock wheels. When using spacers and/or aftermarket wheels, I feel more comfortable to go 2-3mm longer (tolerance of 4matics - 2-3mm front, 4-5mm rear), not shorter. As long as you feel safe and do not forget to re-torque bolts periodically, hopefully you will be fine. Also in order to apply proper clamping force, bolts' seat should be R14 ball/radius seat, not any other (not R12, nor R13) ball/radius seat. Never used Ichiba brand (always H&R), are they R14?.
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Yes I know what H&R says, however your MB was delivered with 45mm bolts stock with full 20mm protrusion of the bolts through stock wheels. When using spacers and/or aftermarket wheels, I feel more comfortable to go 2-3mm longer (tolerance of 4matics - 2-3mm front, 4-5mm rear), not shorter. As long as you feel safe and do not forget to re-torque bolts periodically, hopefully you will be fine. Also in order to apply proper clamping force, bolts' seat should be R14 ball/radius seat, not any other (not R12, nor R13) ball/radius seat. Never used Ichiba brand (always H&R), are they R14?.
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Yeah first I measured the original bolt, they are 20mm protrusion. That is correct
Ichiba makes great products, I used them a lot on my previous cars
I really was thinking about getting H&R bolts, but there are no 55mm or 60mm in black color.

Ichiba is R12. No one makes aftermarket long black bolts with R14
Actually I noticed that only when was torquing them
So I will live with it. Re-torquing them periodically. Hopefully I will be fine

Maybe you know where I can get nice 60mm black bolts? with R14
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Yeah first I measured the original bolt, they are 20mm protrusion. That is correct
Ichiba makes great products, I used them a lot on my previous cars
I really was thinking about getting H&R bolts, but there are no 55mm or 60mm in black color.

Ichiba is R12. No one makes aftermarket long black bolts with R14
Actually I noticed that only when was torquing them
So I will live with it. Re-torquing them periodically. Hopefully I will be fine

Maybe you know where I can get nice 60mm black bolts? with R14
No-one makes long R14 bolts in black. R12 is not safe with stock wheels IMHO. Maybe one can get away with R13 (Audi OEM radius seats, if anyone makes them in black), but not R12. Not safe IMHO. What I have done in the past, I used H&R R14 bolts exclusively and then used black caps (like Audi does). They are really cheap https://otisincla.com/product/17mm-b...g-bolt-covers/ and do the job. You may or may not listen to my advice, but I strongly encourage you to not use R12 with stock Mercedes made only for R14 wheels.
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No-one makes long R14 bolts in black. R12 is not safe with stock wheels IMHO. Maybe one can get away with R13 (Audi OEM radius seats, if anyone makes them in black), but not R12. Not safe IMHO. What I have done in the past, I used H&R R14 bolts exclusively and then used black caps (like Audi does). They are really cheap https://otisincla.com/product/17mm-b...g-bolt-covers/ and do the job. You may or may not listen to my advice, but I strongly encourage you to not use R12 with stock Mercedes made only for R14 wheels.
Thanks for the advice.
I will definitely look for new bolts
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Could you please help with the correct H&R bolt part # ?
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Could you please help with the correct H&R bolt part # ?
Sure. P/N is 1456002. Bought them here awhile (price actually went up, but bolts now look better than on those pics, also ignore their fitment chart): https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...-each/1456002/. Amazon "has" them for less, but I would not wait 3 months.
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Sure. P/N is 1456002. Bought them here awhile (price actually went up, but bolts now look better than on those pics, also ignore their fitment chart): https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...-each/1456002/. Amazon "has" them for less, but I would not wait 3 months.
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Rad also makes them, but they show out of stock at Otis: https://otisincla.com/product/rad-lu...l-seat-hex-17/

Bimecc (also sold at Otis) is an other option if all else is unavailable: https://otisincla.com/product/m14x1-...m-zinc-plated/

But, H&R is your top choice.
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Rad also makes them, but they show out of stock at Otis: https://otisincla.com/product/rad-lu...l-seat-hex-17/

Bimecc (also sold at Otis) is an other option if all else is unavailable: https://otisincla.com/product/m14x1-...m-zinc-plated/

But, H&R is your top choice.
Got it
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Car looks great. What size are the rims? Considering the same set up.
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Car looks great. What size are the rims? Considering the same set up.
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this are 20” with 245/35 and 275/30.
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this are 20” with 245/35 and 275/30.
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can't find the "drooling face" emoji

great job @FedM - your car looks incredible
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can't find the "drooling face" emoji

great job @FedM - your car looks incredible
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I can't find neither
Thanks Steph!!

But for now I have no ideas for the next step lol

The only one thing im thinking of is new wheels
I was ready to pull the trigger for Vorsteiner V-FF 107, but changed my mind last minute
I really love the 20'' from E53, every time I see them I wanna buy them
But the new set is pricey here and I can't find any used sets





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AMG performance seats....? Although you'd probably have to change the back seats also to match the style in which they're upholstered.
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AMG performance seats....? Although you'd probably have to change the back seats also to match the style in which they're upholstered.
Thats too sporty for me
Id rather go for S coupe seats, but the price is up to space
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I couldn't live with the performance seats either. They look good in the car but there is a sacrifice to be made in terms of comfort.

The new AMG wheels do look fantastic...
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The new AMG wheels do look fantastic...
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