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Does anyone have any experience with the accessory wind screen that fits behind the front seats? I have the AirCap which includes the front over the windshield and behind the rear seat windscreens but the accessory one was not included in the US.
The ones I have seen on the web are exorbitantly expensive. Is there a better/cheaper source and is it worth it?
Thanks.
Can you show a picture of what the non-US A238 cabs have that the US A238 cabs don’t?
My 2019 has the one above the windshield and the one behind the back seats. Sounds like you are saying the non-US models come with a third removable wind buffer?
Is there a way to install the 3rd optional wind buffer without deploying either the rear buffer behind the back seats or the one about the windshield? Asked another way, and ignoring the optional wind barrier you are asking about, is there a way to deploy only the the rear buffer behind the back seats or the one about the windshield, not both?
Here’s a page from the manual. It goes over the rear seats making them unusable. The attachments points are already there. When not in use it folds up a stows neatly between the left rear seat back and the trunk.
as far as your other question about the AirCap. They both move together (over the windshield and behind the rear seats) and cannot be operated separately.
It probably is a little different in the S cabrio (A217), but you indeed need 2 holes in the back panels to mount the original (optional) winddeflector. It then can be easily mounted or dismounted when you have passengers in the back. It works much better than the fancy electric one behind the rear seats, that is kind of useless. This new deflector really enables you to drive open much more often, I use it a lot!
I tried to order this as an upgrade on my previous (pre facelift) S cabrio, that was possible, but including 2 new(!) rear panels it was about Euro 3-4K iirc (the deflector only was below Euro 1K, so if you have the mounting holes in the rear panel, it is a viable option imho).
My 2 previous BMW 6 series Cabriolets needed it and it made driving at speed (any speed!) with the roof down quiet. Comfortable for listening to music at normal volumes and able to carry on normal conversations. The BMW OEM windscreen similar to the MB one pictured above was about $350 US
with cover. I thought that was a bit much for some mosquito netting held in a plastic folding frame with some spring mounted nubs to hold it in place. I’m certainly not prepared to pay thousands for one.
I just received my windscreen from Cabrio supply in the Netherlands. Three days from order to receipt in Pennsylvania. $200 US plus $80 shipping. It is manufactured in Europe by Aperta and comes with the Mercedes mounting parts. The install requires removal of the Rear seat and side trim as well as some drilling. The screen itself seems well-made and sturdy. I loved the one in the BMW four series so I wanted one for my new E450. I am still looking for a YouTube how to install on the A238 chassis.
Would you please post pics. Lots of them! And let us know your thoughts on it once it’s installed. I have to say I find the AirCap pretty useless but with the windows up and the roof down the car is still pretty quiet.
thanks
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I don’t think it will be as simple an install as they let on because it does require disassembling some of the cars interior to get to the attachment point for the mounting bracket.
These are the Mercedes parts that were included. Apparently each side of the car gets a different part number. This is how the Mercedes part looks after being installed. It looks like the car was designed with a place to install the mounting bracket. It looks like I may be buying some nylon trim removal tools. They seem to run between eight dollars and $20 for a basic set on Amazon. Follow up. My dealers body shop manager installed the mounting brackets for me. He said he did not need to remove the seat and the parts fit easily. Getting to the mounting point, however, was tedious. It seems to help but I'll need a passenger with hair for a final evaluation.
I have one in my C207 and it's great, better than the AirCap. The C207 has the mounting holes but I'll need to check on the labor to have the holes cut on the C238, if it's only an hour, I'll do it.
Last edited by Marc Kaplan; 07-02-2020 at 02:09 AM.
I have one in my C207 and it's great, better than the AirCap. Plan on getting one for my C238.
Indeed, have the optional windscreen in my A217 (possible for Facelift cars, MY18 onwards) and works much better than AirCap AND the electric windscreen in the back!
Well, I've had my A238 for almost a week now and finally had some top-down weather, and honestly, I think I can live without the windscreen.
The Aircap and rear screen do a pretty good job, and I'd rather not be drilling into the rear seat trim.
Would you please post pics. Lots of them! And let us know your thoughts on it once it’s installed. I have to say I find the AirCap pretty useless but with the windows up and the roof down the car is still pretty quiet.
thanks
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Don’t know about the E series, but on my C series, the Air Scarf is useless. No difference in wind noise or air movement. Except for a whistle in front, which I can’t hear. (Vietnam). The rear seat one with my 4 series worked great.
Had one on a clk cab we owned. I loved it. It fit just as the ones on the e's. I particular found it useful when my wife and I traveled. We could put things on the rear seats and fold down the screen and it kept anything loose from
flopping or flying out. When there was nothing in the rear it was also a great wind blocker. Easy to fit and remove. For some reason I still have it though it won't fit my wife's current cab. We are still waiting for a build order on our 2022 E450 cab
but I know it won't fit there either.
I guess it is a matter of personal preference. My Porsche had this. It worked really well at keeping the wind and noise out of the car. Problem is that it worked so well that on a sunny hot day the car would get like an oven. I have the Aircap on my 2019 E Class Cab and I enjoy it much better. On cooler days I use the Aircap on keep the windows up and it is quite comfortable. Noise level is fine. Again, it is a matter of personal preference.
The problem is the C is much worse than the 4 series was about wind. I only had to flip the blocker up on cooler days. And I almost never had to put the windows up in the 4. On the C, I almost always have to put the windows up. And even if I don’t, since the switch is on the console, my wife does it.
of course, on the 4, even with the blocker folded down, you still had the rear seat covered, which may have reduced wind. On the C that’s not the case and the air scarf is useless. Oh well, the only way to know is to try it.
Don’t know about the E series, but on my C series, the Air Scarf is useless. No difference in wind noise or air movement. Except for a whistle in front, which I can’t hear. (Vietnam). The rear seat one with my 4 series worked great.
You mean the Aircap (on the top of the front shield/window? Then I agree, it works only a little at very high speed (but you have to raise it before you reach 160 kmh).
The Airscarf (ie the warm air in your neck out of the front seats) on the other hand works very good on days that are < 16 degrees Celsius and you want to drive with an open sky 😎
You mean the Aircap (on the top of the front shield/window? Then I agree, it works only a little at very high speed (but you have to raise it before you reach 160 kmh).
The Airscarf (ie the warm air in your neck out of the front seats) on the other hand works very good on days that are < 16 degrees Celsius and you want to drive with an open sky 😎
Got the names mixed up. Thanks. The pop up screen in the back and on top of the windshield are basically useless. The warm air from the back rest is great.
Bumping this. Does the wind deflector fit in the trunk when not in use? My Audi would fold one more time to make it easy to fit in the trunk. I'm worried this may be too long for my A205's trunk.
Bumping this. Does the wind deflector fit in the trunk when not in use? My Audi would fold one more time to make it easy to fit in the trunk. I'm worried this may be too long for my A205's trunk.
The E450 wind screen is a VERY tight fit but I can put it the trunk on a diagonal.
As a follow up, I got mine installed by the dealer and it was transformational. I seriously recommend this install to anyone who drives with their top down regularly, especially at highway speed.