road tax

Jun 28, 2008 | 01:34 AM

keimini

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1984 mercedes benz 300d

road tax

I don't want to make anyone mad however I am confused with the whole roadtax issue.

Please explain this further. I understand these taxes go toward repairing the roads. I get that. What I don't get is the fact that electric vehicles are not given any type of road tax. What makes that any different than running veggie oil as fuel?

I also know that their is no tax on fuel additives. I am unable to find the definition of an additive or any break down on what ratio of additive to fuel is allowed.

If you were to put in 1 gallon of taxed diesel and 15 gallons of additive (doesn't matter what the additive is) then as I understand the current laws, This would be legal!

Please correct me if I am wrong.
and remember don't get mad I am only trying to learn about this stuff. I want to do everything legally.

If anyone knows more on this subject please explain it further.
Thank You

Jun 29, 2008 | 07:15 PM

240D 3.0T

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keimini

What makes that any different than running veggie oil as fuel?

They do it legally.

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I also know that their is no tax on fuel additives. I am unable to find the definition of an additive or any break down on what ratio of additive to fuel is allowed.

SVO and WVO are not additives, they are a non-certified replacement/supplementary fuel.

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If you were to put in 1 gallon of taxed diesel and 15 gallons of additive (doesn't matter what the additive is) then as I understand the current laws, This would be legal!

Wrong. That is fuel substitution.

Perhaps if you knew the definition of the word first.

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additive |ˈaditiv|
noun
a substance added to something in small quantities, typically to improve or preserve it.

Replacing 90% of the primary fuel is not a small amount, its the majority.

Quote:

replacement |riˈplāsmənt|
noun
the action or process of replacing someone or something
• a person or thing that takes the place of another.

Vegetable oil not converted into BioDiesel is not legal to power a vehicle on public roads at all, even if you pay taxes on it.

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Jul 2, 2008 | 05:32 PM

baco99

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1981 380 SLC (R107)

bypassing the EGR valve is also illegal as it is part of the vehicle's emissions package, but to each their own.

Jul 2, 2008 | 05:36 PM

240D 3.0T

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Not in 1980.

Jul 2, 2008 | 11:24 PM

baco99

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Originally Posted by 240D 3.0T

Not in 1980.

last i checked, this was 2008. the car's factory emissions equipment is supposed to be fully functional to the standard that was in place during the year of production. bypassing it is illegal.

Jul 3, 2008 | 05:52 AM

240D 3.0T

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Originally Posted by baco99

the car's factory emissions equipment is supposed to be fully functional to the standard that was in place during the year of production.

Correct, IF my car had an EGR to disable. The 1980 240D did not have an EGR as well as the 1980 OM617.95 did not use an EGR. That means neither had an EGR to disable in the first place.

The signature is limited to 500 characters, I had to word it compactly and that was the best way to write it. EDIT: There, I worded it differently, happy?

You seem to have me confused with someone that doesn't know what they are doing.

Jul 3, 2008 | 07:36 AM

baco99

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you can understand where i was coming from, then. it was worded differently.

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Sep 14, 2008 | 06:05 PM

tanktube67

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The no taxation for electric cars is just to stimulate people to purchase more electric cars

Sep 14, 2008 | 08:22 PM

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i hate tax in UK going up from 200 pound a year to over 400 pound a year not to mention what it is doing to vehicle values.

lets hope brown has a rethink