AMGDave

Yep, the 1992 module is nice if you can find one at a decent price. They're hard to locate under about $300. I had a couple that I sold for about $300 but I haven't seen any available in a while near that price. If you want one bad enough there are some for $500+ but like you, I wouldn't pay that much!!

G Man

No, I didn't own the car then. I think I posted information on that site back in early 2000, when I got the C5. I purchased the 500E in March of 2005.

AMG_Eric

hate to beat a dead horse but the only way to spice up a m104 or 103 is to put a new e420 or e500 motor in it. nothing you do short of turbo charging or super charging it will get you squat in rear wheel hp and torque. most numbers posted are gains at the fly wheel. a 3-10hp gain is pretty immeasurable when you consider how old your engine is and the fact that a 124 is a HEAVY car. do a dyno test on your car and see what your rear wheel hp and torque is b4 you throw away 360 bux.

the e500 and e420 are peppy cars. the e500 with nos as some members have could pretty much take out most modern HP cars in a straight line. as i recall porsche designed the e500 suspension and did a wonderful job.

mr cop hater looks like another troll that got banned last month based on his low post count, his super negative attictude and the fact that his profile doesnt include where he lives and what he drives.

YNVDIZW124

Hey sorry to hi-jack but talking about hp gains have any of you ever tried the g-tech pro ss? I want to get this for my two cars but speacially for my mustang so i can tune it and measure hp on both my cars.

X03

yeah i had got the gtech pro RR for my older bros graduation gift. unfortunately he doesn't really go to the track as much so i think it might have been collecting some dust never tried it on the benz though, its my babe

2PHAST

Actually, Porsche was contracted to do body/frame modifications. The design of the 500E was done by MB. The driveline/suspension is all OE SL500 components. There are many new parts which are unique to the 500e, none of which were designed by Porsche.

AMGDave

I have the Race Tech AP-22 and I love it. I think it's way ahead of the G-Tech products:

http://www.race-technology.com/Site1...ce_Meters.html

You can select any two speeds to measure between, and it automatically levels itself out - no need to get it exactly level or perpendicular. It's also fully adjustable for suspension squat, etc but you really need to get to a dragstrip to fully calibrate it. After I did that, it was consistently accurate within 1%. Some sample data is in the "0-100" and "dragstrip" text files at this link... note it shows the times for each interval, plus G-forces at that speed, distance, etc etc...

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/dragstrip/

Don M

The chips might give some gains @ WOT when the 02 sensor is taken out of the fueling map in the ECM tables, but with the 02 sensor "in the loop" it just returns the engine back to Lambda at normal throttle positions.

Forced induction or a wet nitrous system is the answer for real power gains.

Don~

Daez_Nutz

I've had the PAD chip and currently run the RENNtech offering. The RT idles smoother, but both gave minimal gains. I'd estimate 5hp, if that. Not enough to make an appreciable difference.

Another owner dyno'ed the RENNtech back-to-back with the stock chip (in combination with an Eisenmann exhaust) and did show consistent midrange gains (below 4000 rpm) but the curves evened out at the top end.

VividRacing

Just wanted to let you guys know we are an authorized dealer for Powerchip. We also work with Kleeman and Evosport so if your looking to do a staged upgrade as well. If there is something I can help you with please let me know. If you guys are looking for a quote shoot me over a pm.

Thanks

AMGDave

Rob, I think most of us would like to see a real-world dyno graph of an M119 (or M104), before and after. And not the usually VERY optimistic graphs from the manufacturer, which often appear to be the same line re-drawn "x" HP above the stock curve...

VividRacing

I have a 4 wheel dyno here. If someone local wants to install, I would be happy to split the dyno time with them to see the results.

We are located in Chandler Arizona.

CDP

Dang - VividRacing. You guys have grown A LOT since you first started in the import scene a few years back. Nice to know you guys are involved with Euros now.