help me pick my wheel fitment. extreme size/offset
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help me pick my wheel fitment. extreme size/offset
i ordered work euroline DH about 2 weeks ago in 18x8 35mm offset all around. well the shop i ordered the wheels thru is waiting on 2 more orders before they put mine in so they can get cheaper shipping so im gonna change my size to a more "aggressive" fit.
im aware the size i initially ordered will fit but i want something more aggressive. my fenders are rolled and im working on a custom suspension to dump the car so i just need it flush with the fenders like the car pictured below.
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whats the lowest offset i can run with rolled fenders. i hear i can pull of +20 but i dont wanna do trial and error on $3000 wheels. also how wide can i go to achieve the look?
im searched on numerious forums including this one with no real answer. i have to have the reorder in by tues so im tryin to get it all figured out. i was never good at calculating offsets/size on wheels.. i usually just see a pic i like and run their offset to be safe. but i dont see many w124's running extreme offsets.
im not looking for anything too extreme that id have to run certain degrees of camber, just something that will fill the fenders and make it look flush.
im aware the size i initially ordered will fit but i want something more aggressive. my fenders are rolled and im working on a custom suspension to dump the car so i just need it flush with the fenders like the car pictured below.
![](http://www.fabuloususa.com/images/models/gallery/pics/s140-01.jpg)
whats the lowest offset i can run with rolled fenders. i hear i can pull of +20 but i dont wanna do trial and error on $3000 wheels. also how wide can i go to achieve the look?
im searched on numerious forums including this one with no real answer. i have to have the reorder in by tues so im tryin to get it all figured out. i was never good at calculating offsets/size on wheels.. i usually just see a pic i like and run their offset to be safe. but i dont see many w124's running extreme offsets.
im not looking for anything too extreme that id have to run certain degrees of camber, just something that will fill the fenders and make it look flush.
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If you want them to be super close to the lip of the fender, you might find that fender-rolling won't allow you to get as close as you want. I have read of some people actually cutting and grinding the lip of the fender off. Obviously you'd have to do it very cautiously, and then you'd have to touch up the paint to keep it from rusting out, but this will allow you to get the tires very very close to the fender.
In terms of off-set, I couldn't tell you. I have 18x8's ET35 with rolled fenders, and IMO, they are very very close. If you really like the original rims you ordered, why not consider some hub spacers to decrease the offset? That way you can play with it a little bit and don't have to go through the stress of the guess-and-check work with $3k rims. Just a thought.
In terms of off-set, I couldn't tell you. I have 18x8's ET35 with rolled fenders, and IMO, they are very very close. If you really like the original rims you ordered, why not consider some hub spacers to decrease the offset? That way you can play with it a little bit and don't have to go through the stress of the guess-and-check work with $3k rims. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Bigpete123
If you want them to be super close to the lip of the fender, you might find that fender-rolling won't allow you to get as close as you want. I have read of some people actually cutting and grinding the lip of the fender off. Obviously you'd have to do it very cautiously, and then you'd have to touch up the paint to keep it from rusting out, but this will allow you to get the tires very very close to the fender.
In terms of off-set, I couldn't tell you. I have 18x8's ET35 with rolled fenders, and IMO, they are very very close. If you really like the original rims you ordered, why not consider some hub spacers to decrease the offset? That way you can play with it a little bit and don't have to go through the stress of the guess-and-check work with $3k rims. Just a thought.
In terms of off-set, I couldn't tell you. I have 18x8's ET35 with rolled fenders, and IMO, they are very very close. If you really like the original rims you ordered, why not consider some hub spacers to decrease the offset? That way you can play with it a little bit and don't have to go through the stress of the guess-and-check work with $3k rims. Just a thought.
youre right about the spacer idea. i spoke to chris about spacers and that was my initial idea. but since there is a hault on the shipping, i just wanted to double check and see if there was any more agreesive offsets i can run before i order a wheel i wont be pleased with.
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I'm pretty sure Alon & I are running the most aggressive offset on the board and it's pretty hardcore right now. lol I should take some pictures for you so you can see how flushed with the fenders they are.
Anyhow, If you want - I could send you a AMG manual which shows you how to install the Fender spacers and mod the rear fenders to accommedate more aggressive wheels in the rear. Just shoot me your email addy. Have you talked to Sander's about the wheel situation?
Anyhow, If you want - I could send you a AMG manual which shows you how to install the Fender spacers and mod the rear fenders to accommedate more aggressive wheels in the rear. Just shoot me your email addy. Have you talked to Sander's about the wheel situation?
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
I'm pretty sure Alon & I are running the most aggressive offset on the board and it's pretty hardcore right now. lol I should take some pictures for you so you can see how flushed with the fenders they are.
Anyhow, If you want - I could send you a AMG manual which shows you how to install the Fender spacers and mod the rear fenders to accommedate more aggressive wheels in the rear. Just shoot me your email addy. Have you talked to Sander's about the wheel situation?
Anyhow, If you want - I could send you a AMG manual which shows you how to install the Fender spacers and mod the rear fenders to accommedate more aggressive wheels in the rear. Just shoot me your email addy. Have you talked to Sander's about the wheel situation?
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Originally Posted by jdmfiend
ya chris shoot me some pix if you can. thatd be cool. if you dont mind, id like to see the amg manual. my email is jdmfiend@Yahoo.com
btw, im comin to the frisco area in august.
all my fresno/modesto friends are meeting me there. u should come party with us![drive](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif)
btw, im comin to the frisco area in august.
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ya chris shoot me some pix if you can. thatd be cool. if you dont mind, id like to see the amg manual. my email is jdmfiend@Yahoo.com
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Originally Posted by YNVDIZW124
You can go 18x8 in the front with a 35mm offset and 18x8.5 in the back with a 30 offset on rolled lips.
im trying to go low offsets, high width.
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here are some pics. This was over a year and a half ago right after I had my H&R springs installed. The car sits slightly lower now that the springs have settled.
With 8" wide rims and ET35, you can see that the fronts are pretty close to the fenders. Maybe they could be a few mm closer, but not much:
![](http://myhome.spu.edu/peteraeschliman/06.jpg)
![](http://myhome.spu.edu/peteraeschliman/07.jpg)
With 8" wide rims and ET35, you can see that the fronts are pretty close to the fenders. Maybe they could be a few mm closer, but not much:
![](http://myhome.spu.edu/peteraeschliman/06.jpg)
![](http://myhome.spu.edu/peteraeschliman/07.jpg)
![](http://myhome.spu.edu/peteraeschliman/10.jpg)
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just dont wanna play trial and error with $3500 wheels. spacers will give me the luxury of ****ing up then throwing it back into spec. im not too sure how many mm the spacer is. so if i can do a +28 with a spacer, a +20 will fit flush?
edit: found some info on the spacers.
1) 1/2" original AMG fender spacer size $20.00
2) 1" extreme kit $22.00
3) 1 1/4" super extreme kit. $25.00
so does that mean i can run +20 w/o spacers? i mean ill be running the extra 8mm from the spacer anyway.
edit: found some info on the spacers.
1) 1/2" original AMG fender spacer size $20.00
2) 1" extreme kit $22.00
3) 1 1/4" super extreme kit. $25.00
so does that mean i can run +20 w/o spacers? i mean ill be running the extra 8mm from the spacer anyway.
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
jdmfiend, did you get my email?
thx a lot bro.
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Do they ever rub?
Oh, well come to think of it- I did have a bit of rubbing at first in the front. It would rub right where the lower body molding attaches to the fender arch (right in front of the door). The scuffed up area isn't visible unless you looked inside the wheel well. The rubbing was very very minor and eventually my tires just shaved down the plastic molding. They no longer rub at all. I think they only rubbed a little when I went over bumps.
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Oh and another thing. jdm, if you want the tires to be flush with the fender on the outside, why would you want to add fender spacers? Unless my understanding of the spacers is wrong, won't they just move your outer fender away from your tires? That will just defeat the purpose of this whole exercise.
The spacers I was referring to were the kind that you stick between your hub and your wheel to decrease the offset (i.e. to push the wheel out toward the outer fender). Correct me if I'm missing something here.
The spacers I was referring to were the kind that you stick between your hub and your wheel to decrease the offset (i.e. to push the wheel out toward the outer fender). Correct me if I'm missing something here.
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Yeah my fronts never rub as well and turn radius is still excellent. BigPete I noticed or it looks as if your rear tires aren't aligned, does it not fit aligned? I'm still riding with my rear not aligned yet, no wait I'm not riding right now, a balljoint snaped while I was driving.
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Originally Posted by Bigpete123
Oh and another thing. jdm, if you want the tires to be flush with the fender on the outside, why would you want to add fender spacers? Unless my understanding of the spacers is wrong, won't they just move your outer fender away from your tires? That will just defeat the purpose of this whole exercise.
The spacers I was referring to were the kind that you stick between your hub and your wheel to decrease the offset (i.e. to push the wheel out toward the outer fender). Correct me if I'm missing something here.
The spacers I was referring to were the kind that you stick between your hub and your wheel to decrease the offset (i.e. to push the wheel out toward the outer fender). Correct me if I'm missing something here.
+32 wheel started
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/uncle_el/jdm%20wheels/ziggycb7.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/uncle_el/jdm%20wheels/tire.jpg)
added one 5mm spacer to take the offset down to +27. added another 5mm spacer to take the offset down to +22.
results:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/uncle_el/jdm%20wheels/22offsetwheeloncb7_1.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/uncle_el/jdm%20wheels/22offsetwheeloncb7_2.jpg)
which allowed the next person to have the info, in order to know that this would work:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/uncle_el/jdm%20wheels/167527.jpg)
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Yeah my fronts never rub as well and turn radius is still excellent. BigPete I noticed or it looks as if your rear tires aren't aligned, does it not fit aligned? I'm still riding with my rear not aligned yet, no wait I'm not riding right now, a balljoint snaped while I was driving.
So you went with 18x8.5" in the front with no rub? Does your wheels seem flushed tot he car or does it stick out?
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Originally Posted by Makahveli
Yeah my fronts never rub as well and turn radius is still excellent. BigPete I noticed or it looks as if your rear tires aren't aligned, does it not fit aligned? I'm still riding with my rear not aligned yet, no wait I'm not riding right now, a balljoint snaped while I was driving.