Possible Modifications to 1991 300ce?
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Nothing to tell. Same as ever. He didn't check timing, I can't afford to have any more shop fees currently.
No, injectors have never been touched.
No, injectors have never been touched.
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CIS mechanical injectors have a finite life span. If they are original... I'd consider them on the list for replacement, assuming a new motor is not in the cards anytime soon. The usual indicators of tired injectors are an intermittent miss at idle... shouldn't be any magical change in power delivery. By 150-200kmi they are usually toast.
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Brett..
Did you ever get a copy of "The Racing Driver" by Denis Jenkinson?
If you haven't PM with your full name and address as I found ( while cleaning out my garage and my life ) a hard cover version given to me in 1961..( yes, 1961 !!! )
It's the "bible", written in 1959, that many learned the techniques to go safer and faster even in normal street driving...
You seem to be a serious motorsports enthusiast, so it's yours for the asking...
Ed A.
Did you ever get a copy of "The Racing Driver" by Denis Jenkinson?
If you haven't PM with your full name and address as I found ( while cleaning out my garage and my life ) a hard cover version given to me in 1961..( yes, 1961 !!! )
It's the "bible", written in 1959, that many learned the techniques to go safer and faster even in normal street driving...
You seem to be a serious motorsports enthusiast, so it's yours for the asking...
Ed A.
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Brad...
Did you ever get a copy of "The Racing Driver" by Denis Jenkinson?
If you haven't PM with your full name and address as I found ( while cleaning out my garage and my life ) a hard cover version given to me in 1961..( yes, 1961 !!! )
It's the "bible", written in 1959, that many learned the techniques to go safer and faster even in normal street driving...
You seem to be a serious motorsports enthusiast, so it's yours for the asking...
Ed A.
Did you ever get a copy of "The Racing Driver" by Denis Jenkinson?
If you haven't PM with your full name and address as I found ( while cleaning out my garage and my life ) a hard cover version given to me in 1961..( yes, 1961 !!! )
It's the "bible", written in 1959, that many learned the techniques to go safer and faster even in normal street driving...
You seem to be a serious motorsports enthusiast, so it's yours for the asking...
Ed A.
Not yet Ed! I still have it on my Amazon wishlist for purchase.
I'll only send you my details if you promise me this will not be a for free transaction :P I still owe you for the brake lines sir.
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Yeah, in a different life with a different financial situation, I'd love to try my hand at racing as a career. Real life dictates otherwise. It will just remain a passion/hobby unfortunately.
Not yet Ed! I still have it on my Amazon wishlist for purchase.
I'll only send you my details if you promise me this will not be a for free transaction :P I still owe you for the brake lines sir.
Not yet Ed! I still have it on my Amazon wishlist for purchase.
I'll only send you my details if you promise me this will not be a for free transaction :P I still owe you for the brake lines sir.
For calling you "Brad' ( senior moment ), it's yours...
At some point in your life you learn not to worry about what stuff cost you years ago...
I think you'll enjoy some of the basics in the book..even just as a hobby or club racer, best to learn the techniques to go a little bit faster...
Up to you..I'll put it on your tab...
Ed A.
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I am capable of using about 25% of that car's power safely. The accelerator is really just the "go sideways with smoke" button in that car.
However, once you're off the gas, it grips to the road with such tenacity that I've never felt before in my life. I'm guessing the rear shock tower brace had something to do with the rock-solid feel of the suspension. The tube must be almost 3" in diameter!
It truly was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. That is slotted as number 3 in my top 5 dream cars, and I not only got to start it, take photos with it, but drive it for about 10m!
I'd need many hours more seat time before I had any sort of confidence with it on the gas, but I can tell that it would be a very controllable car if I had the confidence.
Everything about it was pure. The interior appointments are as nice as they should be for a go-fast car like this. The sound was absolutely gorgeous when you were on the gas & when you let off into a corner to down-shift.
I'll throw up some videos shortly.
How big a smile do you get from driving yours? I'm still smiling ear to ear just thinking about it!
And with that giant trunk, it is certainly highly functional. No reason to ever drive anything else! There, I think I've convinced myself that this will be a reasonable daily-driver about 60 years in the future when I can finally afford one haha
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Brett
Even after you get used to it, you still tend to be very aware of how the tail easily kicks out...
Not sure what tires were on the car you drove but if they were the original Pirelli Corsa's then the street handling can get very scary, very quickly
With the Corsa's each tire has a different tread pattern and almost impossible getting them hot enough on the street to get any semblance of traction.
My rears were gone in under 8K miles and that's with no real track time.
There aren't many choices as the car uses some odd size tires.
I went with Conti extreme contact DWS...( DW doesn't come in the size for the BS ).
The DWS's make the car much more streetable and keep the rear a bit more under control under normal driving.
It is probably the most brutal car that I've ever owned...
The C63BS will lap faster, but it's more refined then the CLK63 BS...
And the trunk...you missed the sticker that indicates that it has a limited weight load !!!
Ed A.
Even after you get used to it, you still tend to be very aware of how the tail easily kicks out...
Not sure what tires were on the car you drove but if they were the original Pirelli Corsa's then the street handling can get very scary, very quickly
With the Corsa's each tire has a different tread pattern and almost impossible getting them hot enough on the street to get any semblance of traction.
My rears were gone in under 8K miles and that's with no real track time.
There aren't many choices as the car uses some odd size tires.
I went with Conti extreme contact DWS...( DW doesn't come in the size for the BS ).
The DWS's make the car much more streetable and keep the rear a bit more under control under normal driving.
It is probably the most brutal car that I've ever owned...
The C63BS will lap faster, but it's more refined then the CLK63 BS...
And the trunk...you missed the sticker that indicates that it has a limited weight load !!!
Ed A.
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When I watched the Top Gear video about this car (about 20 times), I thought that Clarkson was being theatrical when he talked about the car and drove it. Boy, was that a surprise.
Does the car ever surprise you still, or have you gotten it under control? I was drooling too much over the sheetmetal and CF to check the rubber. Massive oversight, I know.
Those tires must be really amazing at the track then, right?
I could see that being very beneficial on the road. Trying to pull away from a stop like it was a regular car resulted in the ***-end whipping sideways immediately. My dad made some pretty visual drama trying to exit the dealership.
In what manner is it more refined? Suspension feel, sound, gearing, traction control?
I did indeed miss that sticker. Well, there goes the grocery getter justification. Harumph.
Here is the start-up & walk around before we got street time with it.
Does the car ever surprise you still, or have you gotten it under control? I was drooling too much over the sheetmetal and CF to check the rubber. Massive oversight, I know.
Those tires must be really amazing at the track then, right?
I could see that being very beneficial on the road. Trying to pull away from a stop like it was a regular car resulted in the ***-end whipping sideways immediately. My dad made some pretty visual drama trying to exit the dealership.
In what manner is it more refined? Suspension feel, sound, gearing, traction control?
I did indeed miss that sticker. Well, there goes the grocery getter justification. Harumph.
Here is the start-up & walk around before we got street time with it.
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All I can say about the BS is "never a dull moment"....
Great to downshift to third and then second and just coast to hear the "snap, crackle and pop" of the exhaust...
The Corsa's that come with the car are a track compound tire...need to get very hot before they grip...
Cold weather and it's like on black ice...
From a start difficult not to have the traction control kick in...
The Conti EC DWS are good even in the rain...great traction on part throttle, no limiter kicking in and the tail stays a bit straighter under hard acceleration...
They even improve the ride quality...back of your head doesn't bounce off the headrest as much as with the Corsa's.
You have to drive it as it doesn't drive you like many newer performance cars...
I think it's one of the wildest "street" cars that Mercedes or anyone else has ever made...
There are a few owners that have installed Weistec Superchargers and are making incredible numbers on the dyno...
Ed A.
All I can say about the BS is "never a dull moment"....
Great to downshift to third and then second and just coast to hear the "snap, crackle and pop" of the exhaust...
The Corsa's that come with the car are a track compound tire...need to get very hot before they grip...
Cold weather and it's like on black ice...
From a start difficult not to have the traction control kick in...
The Conti EC DWS are good even in the rain...great traction on part throttle, no limiter kicking in and the tail stays a bit straighter under hard acceleration...
They even improve the ride quality...back of your head doesn't bounce off the headrest as much as with the Corsa's.
You have to drive it as it doesn't drive you like many newer performance cars...
I think it's one of the wildest "street" cars that Mercedes or anyone else has ever made...
There are a few owners that have installed Weistec Superchargers and are making incredible numbers on the dyno...
Ed A.
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I can imagine that it would keep driving exciting, as it should be.
Yeah, I toyed with that a bit with the windows down. It sounds brutal, a bit more grumble than my friend's CLS63 (NA v8, not the TT v8). I wonder if we could ever get the m104 to make such guttural sounds?
Okay, that could explain it. I believe the ambient temp was somewhere in the 40s the day we were driving it. Certainly sub-optimal for most rubber compounds.
I do have to say, one of the best things the BS taught me was that in comparison, my current suspension setup is absolutely divinely supple. I thought I was going to have a compacted spine at the end of the drive. Damn those crap NJ roads...
Yes, exactly. It felt pure. I'm sure there are some electronic grannies watch-******* what I was doing, but if they were there, they were waiting for me to really mess up because I never felt it cutting my throttle or hand-holding me back straight. I was just barely in control of the car, and that was an awesome feeling.
I'll see if I can convince my friend with the CLS63 to drop one of those in.
Yeah, I toyed with that a bit with the windows down. It sounds brutal, a bit more grumble than my friend's CLS63 (NA v8, not the TT v8). I wonder if we could ever get the m104 to make such guttural sounds?
Okay, that could explain it. I believe the ambient temp was somewhere in the 40s the day we were driving it. Certainly sub-optimal for most rubber compounds.
I do have to say, one of the best things the BS taught me was that in comparison, my current suspension setup is absolutely divinely supple. I thought I was going to have a compacted spine at the end of the drive. Damn those crap NJ roads...
Yes, exactly. It felt pure. I'm sure there are some electronic grannies watch-******* what I was doing, but if they were there, they were waiting for me to really mess up because I never felt it cutting my throttle or hand-holding me back straight. I was just barely in control of the car, and that was an awesome feeling.
I'll see if I can convince my friend with the CLS63 to drop one of those in.
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I just wish we were allowed to fall back further so that I could have the opportunity to actually push through the corners and push myself as a driver more.
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Brett;
just for you - check out this drag racing 500E from Idaho.
https://www.facebook.com/mbca.vancou...type=3&theater
just for you - check out this drag racing 500E from Idaho.
https://www.facebook.com/mbca.vancou...type=3&theater
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Brett;
just for you - check out this drag racing 500E from Idaho.
https://www.facebook.com/mbca.vancou...type=3&theater
just for you - check out this drag racing 500E from Idaho.
https://www.facebook.com/mbca.vancou...type=3&theater
