SNSMBZ W124

I found this little package for a decent price. What I like about it, is I think it's kind of a cool starter package. The subs I can live with for a long time. The Amp is kinda weak, but I can always get a fatter one later down the road.

I actually had a pair of older 12" Fosgates, with same amp power, that bumped even a little too hard. I mostly listen to rock(anything before '96, if newer, it's not rock, it's crap), yet I like some hip hop(Mobb Deep, Kool Keith, Bone Thugs, Crucial Conflict, etc.). [And, please, don't give me that crap that says you need to be all about rap or hip hop to have subz, it's bull sh*t! ]

My current door speakers are alpine, and what I love about them is they put out the highest, loudest, and cleanest trebble, but any bass kills them. Yet, when they work together with subs, you can still hear them loudly and incredibly clearly, no matter how loud I had my old subz turned up!! To to refresh my orignal question, what do you think of these?
My current price limit is $500.

This whole package is priced @ $479.99 subs/amp/q-logic box





Details:
» package includes Punch 450.2 2-channel amplifier, two Punch Stage 2 10" subwoofers, and one Q-Logic QLH-10D65 sealed subwoofer box

Punch P450.2 2-channel amplifier
» 100 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
» variable high- and low-pass filters (40-400 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
» wired Punch Bass EQ (0-18 dB at 45 Hz)
» preamp inputs and outputs
» 8-gauge power and ground leads recommended — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
» 11-3/4"W x 2-1/2"H x 11-1/8"D
» warranty: 1 year

Punch Stage 2 10" 4-ohm subwoofers
» molded polypropylene woofer cone with foam surround
» frequency response: 20-200 Hz
» power range (each): 50-200 watts RMS (400 watts peak power)
» sensitivity: 85.8 dB
» warranty: 1 year

Q-Logic QLH-10D65 sealed subwoofer box
» box volume: 1.30 cubic feet (0.65 per sub)
» dimensions: 27-3/8"W x 12-1/8"H x 12-3/8"D1 x 8-3/8"D2
» warranty: 1 year

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SNSMBZ W124

What?! So none of you guys know anything about car audio?! May I atleast remind you, it is going in my Benzo. Hello? Anyone there?!

rlee02135

sometimes it takes more than an hour to get a reply
be patient

i really like the look of the punch subs. they look really classy.
the amp, looks kind of old. it looks like it was made in the 90's

rlee02135

also, i dont like the look of the enclosure.
if you can, custom mold one to fit in your trunk.
it'll look a lot cleaner.

Rockford Fosgate makes good stuff.
i just bought an amp hookup kit yesterday for $100, great quality.

SNSMBZ W124

Cool. Putting a custom mold seems the best way to go, but how much does something like that cost?

CDP

you shouldn't have to worry about that - you're balling!

YNVDIZW124

haha chris.. We're in MBWorld! Mercedes Ballers World! Yes, there are some of us who know about car audio. If you need some help im in long beach and i can help you out with whatever you need. Don't worry im not charging.

For $500 i'm pretty sure you can get a system louder than 100watts rms.

Look at ebay for a good deal!..

SNSMBZ W124

Good look, man! I'll be sure to hit you up. I'm looking at doing a final purchase within 2 weeks. What amp brand(s) do you like best for something around that price range?

SNSMBZ W124

What I love about this car is, even when I had the last generation 12" Folsgates in my car blasting, nothing rattled or shook. Not even the 3 mirrors!! The car is rock solid, any other car I have been in with subs, atleast the mirrors shake. Germans know what's up!

e32o

Well it's still best to add some dynomate to the trunk, keep the sound nice. I got a 10" sub in a custom box with one 1 and i can kill your eye drum. I have changed out the sub over the years but this box i got back in 1997 with a cheap 10 woofer (which i blew out in 2 weeks) and i love it. I can take pics of my set if you like but i am also considering changing out my amp. Maybe at the next meet you will get a chance to hear it if i can get my car done in time and the door speaker switched out also, cause i recently blew the original ones. doh

YNVDIZW124

Yeah, They kinda killed it with the gas tank behind the back seat since it acts like a sound wall. Brands in that price range? I like crossfire, us amps, memphis, MMATS, phoenix gold, and the new jbl crown series. Their alittle pricey but they would be able to push a good set of subs. what size subs are you thinking of using?

This is my system Infinity amp with 2 12" Hollywood Excursion subs..Don't really like them but they'll do for now...

SNSMBZ W124

I've been told to still add some dyno, for better sound quality, so I will probably do that. But, hold on... we have meets? Mellow!

YNVDIZW124

You can also add insulation expanding foam in hard to reach areas..

SNSMBZ W124

I've heard something about the tank acting as a sound wall, so this guy said to do a custom install right under the window. But, sounds like alot of work. I'm not trying to create a show car, just something a little pimp. Plus, I had 12's back there before, and they were fine to me.

Thanx for the sub references, I will check those out immediatly! Now when it comes to sub size, either 10" or 12". I had 12's before and I was happy with them, but I heard that when it comes to lesser expensive subs, 10" can be more reponsive w/ cleaner bass. is that true?

What I'm looking for is something in the price range between Pyles of Sh*t and some gnar gnar JL's. I'm stoked to get your opinion because, you seem to know exactly what your talking about!

FAT CUSTOM SETUP YOU GOTZ!

YNVDIZW124

Yes, it's true 10" have alittle bit cleaner bass but i rather go with 12"s. You can get the same response from 12"s but you just need to tune and eq the system to the type of music your going to listen too. Rock doesn't have a lot of bass but im sure you want to feel the bass in the back.

You will get alot of resistance from MBworld members when you talk about PIMPING you benz. Living in So Cal kinda makes you want to Pimp your car out anyways but i think is mainly for the ladies. I don't know how old you are but i would pimp out that benz if i was you. Maybe not TIS rims but lower it, some nice silver rims with a chrome lip, custom sound system, and some tv's while your at it.

SNSMBZ W124

It's all about the lady's! I like your thinking on the modz! You're thinking exactly what i've been thinking... drop, lip silver rims, custom sound, and tv's. All good! In time, of course.

F*ck everbody else! I'm pimpin my Benzo Inuendo!! You don't like it? Too bad... You got your own Benz to worry about!
But, you guys don't have to worry... It's not like I'm taking my car to Pimp My Ride so they can turn into some stupid popcorn machine or put tv's underneath the car for no apparent reason. She will be clean and classy, with a touch of pimp juice. It's what we in Cali call Baller!

(Actually, Baller is a '06 S-Class onj 22's, but you get my point)


BTW im 21

SNSMBZ W124

Hell yeah! UPS just got here with my lights and Muffler!! See ya all later with new Pics!

Bigpete123

The thing about 10's is that they will definitely be cleaner... But if you plan on just putting a box in the trunk, you won't be able to hear the sound quality because it's trying to boom through your gas tank and metal dash.

The shop that told you to cut a hole in your dash was on the right track if you want good clean bass, but if you want loud bass, proceed with your setup. It's all about what you want. What I wanted was clean, high-quality bass. So I went with an infinite baffle setup with a single 10" mounted directly to the rear deck under the first aid kit. It will only be 200 watts RMS. The installation has been a huge pain in the ****. But it should sound good (still not done yet!).

But if you don't care about sound quality as much as you care about "boom", don't waste your time, money, and pristine dash by cutting a huge hole like I did! ha ha

In terms of those components you are looking at, for your goals, I don't think 200 watts RMS will be enough. Your trunk is VERY well sealed off from the cabin, so I just don't see how you'll get much bass in the car. I would recommend at least 500watts RMS, although that might put you out of your price range...

2PHAST

I went this route.

YNVDIZW124

2phast - Always nice and clean!! but what's the price on that??..

Bigpete123

2phast, one of these days I'm gonna see you around. I dont' know how I'd miss a red 500e like that!

2PHAST

$240 plus shipping, internal 200watt amp, believe its about 7" at its widest point, so it does not take up too much space in the trunk, although with the mounting options I went with, getting at the spare tire takes a bit of work, as I need to unbolt the passenger side mounting bracket and slide the plastic tire cover out.

More pictures of the install at 500e.2phast.com

YNVDIZW124

What do you guys think about the JL 10" W-1 ? I just got a pair with a 250/1 amp.

SNSMBZ W124

2PHAST, sick website! That will give me alot of help.

I like the subs you showed me alot so far! My question for you is, on the Infinity Basslink T, it says, "1 10" sub and 2 Radiators," when it comes to car audio, what are radiators?

Saijin_Naib

Sattelites? Like, mid/tweeters would be my guess, but dont quote me on that :L