spring pad discussion (no gay secks talk allowed)
11-07-2006, 02:36 PM
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So, at least for spring pads on the front suspension, you can pretty much assume that a 5mm change in spring pad will amount to approximately (due to possible error inherent to measuring a drawing) a 10mm of change in ride height.
If someone can measure these points on actual suspension parts, we'll get a more accurate number, if anyone cares that much about it.
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11-07-2006, 03:18 PM
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11-07-2006, 03:26 PM
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No, their not the same because as you can see from these other post if you put the spring pad on the bottom it will raise the car more than if it was on top because mercedes springs are flat on one side and putting in the bottom wich is not the flat part will cause it to be uneven and higher on one side of the spring...
11-07-2006, 03:49 PM
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No, their not the same because as you can see from these other post if you put the spring pad on the bottom it will raise the car more than if it was on top because mercedes springs are flat on one side and putting in the bottom wich is not the flat part will cause it to be uneven and higher on one side of the spring...
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11-07-2006, 05:37 PM
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I'm not telling anybody to install the spring pad on the top or bottom. Obviously if the spring pad was installed in the incorrect place, it would cause the ride hieght to be off since the spring is flat on the top vs. the bottom. I didn't go and look under my car before drawing this out. These aren't installation instructions, we're just trying to figure out the relationship between pad thickness and ride height.
I made a quick drawing to help illustrate this. But I disagree with you. The principle is the same- there is a multiplicative relationship between pad height and ride height. That's the principle, and it's the same regardless of whether the spring pad is on the top or bottom. Sure, if you took the old spring pad off the top and installed the new one on the bottom, it wouldn't drop the car as much as expected because it was installed wrong. But the mathematical principle is the same, assuming the pad is installed properly. jeeze. That will teach me to try and help.
I made a quick drawing to help illustrate this. But I disagree with you. The principle is the same- there is a multiplicative relationship between pad height and ride height. That's the principle, and it's the same regardless of whether the spring pad is on the top or bottom. Sure, if you took the old spring pad off the top and installed the new one on the bottom, it wouldn't drop the car as much as expected because it was installed wrong. But the mathematical principle is the same, assuming the pad is installed properly. jeeze. That will teach me to try and help.
11-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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Dude i just said the spring pad goes on top not on the bottom!
If a new member looks at this thread they may think the spring pad goes on the bottom so i want to correct that...
Who is arguing that this is wrong? I think we all know that pad height and ride hight have to do with each other...
let's look at the spring pad sizes
8 +0 = 1 bump
8 + 5 = 13mm = 2 bump (5mm)
8 + 5 + 5 = 18mm = 3 bump (10mm)
8 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 23mm = 4 bump (15mm)
If you keep adding more thickness it will raise more than 5mm to start because of the angle of the lower control arm. It does matter where the spring is centered in the suspension because that would affect the ratio it raises or lowers the suspension from the pivot point.
So i don't see where we have a problem because the answer is YES your right..
These aren't installation instructions
there is a multiplicative relationship between pad height and ridsince the way the suspene height
let's look at the spring pad sizes
8 +0 = 1 bump
8 + 5 = 13mm = 2 bump (5mm)
8 + 5 + 5 = 18mm = 3 bump (10mm)
8 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 23mm = 4 bump (15mm)
If you keep adding more thickness it will raise more than 5mm to start because of the angle of the lower control arm. It does matter where the spring is centered in the suspension because that would affect the ratio it raises or lowers the suspension from the pivot point.
So i don't see where we have a problem because the answer is YES your right..
