560SEC motor in a 300CE?
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560SEC motor in a 300CE?
My 300CE got hit a while back. I thought of selling it, but when i recently sat in it i came up with a crazy idea. I wondered if a 560SEC engine will fit in to the car and possibly a manual tranny.
Can anyone tell me the price of these mods or where to obtain the needed parts?
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It can be done but will take someone with experience to do so. Your first look would be to get a M119 motor from a 500E/500SL/500SE instead of the 560 series simply because it has been done more often. There are conversions going on in both Michigan and SoCal right now of planting a 500V8 into the narrowbody 124. As for your second question, there have been a couple of chats about putting a manual tranny on the back of the 500 [or 560 motor] but it has not gone far.
There is suppose to be a meeting at the end of January between several of us at the Rolex 24 Hour of Daytona race about the very subject of mating a manual to the V8 so that part may change soon.
There is suppose to be a meeting at the end of January between several of us at the Rolex 24 Hour of Daytona race about the very subject of mating a manual to the V8 so that part may change soon.
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My 300CE got hit a while back. I thought of selling it, but when i recently sat in it i came up with a crazy idea. I wondered if a 560SEC engine will fit in to the car and possibly a manual tranny.
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The AMG Hammer used an M117 V-8 with AMG twincam heads and the 500E used a modified version of the M119.
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The W124 chassis was never designed to hold a V-8. As a result extensive modifications are needed. Which is not to say that it's impossible. The most complete W124 V-8 conversions are, of course, the AMG Hammer and the 500E.
The AMG Hammer used an M117 V-8 with AMG twincam heads and the 500E used a modified version of the M119.
The AMG Hammer used an M117 V-8 with AMG twincam heads and the 500E used a modified version of the M119.
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You should not forget the 400, it has the same block as the 500E.
And note that the 500E does not really have a modified M119 in it [surprised me too]. The same block and heads that were used in the 500SL[129] and 500SE [140] are used in the 500E. Right now I have an M119 motor from a 500SE and an M119 from a 500E setting next to each other on engine stands and if I had not painted the stands different colors, I would not be able to tell them apart. Both are 93's and the part numbers on all the parts [pistons and heads included] are the same. The cams are different only by .xxn but spec the same.
And note that the 500E does not really have a modified M119 in it [surprised me too]. The same block and heads that were used in the 500SL[129] and 500SE [140] are used in the 500E. Right now I have an M119 motor from a 500SE and an M119 from a 500E setting next to each other on engine stands and if I had not painted the stands different colors, I would not be able to tell them apart. Both are 93's and the part numbers on all the parts [pistons and heads included] are the same. The cams are different only by .xxn but spec the same.
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