definitive wheel fitment guide for w124 pdf
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1991 300CE & 1995 E320 Wagon
Reaching out for a little help
Hello All!
I'm in the process of gathering parts for a very near purchase of a 1993 300CE, I owned a '89 300CE about 15-years ago and enjoyed it immensely.
I've spent the past month reading information on all things w124.. and my 54-y/o brain is now a little mushy. There's a ton of great information and experience on the net from w124 owners/gurus.
Question I have is:
Will a 17x7.5 ET37 from a w210 fit a w124? I know that the diameter and width will fit, My concern is the offset. Rolling the fenders if necessary wouldn't be a issue
I plan on installing H&R springs and Bilstein Sports (per the consensus of the posts that I've read).
Thank you for your input/response,
Chad & Janet
I'm in the process of gathering parts for a very near purchase of a 1993 300CE, I owned a '89 300CE about 15-years ago and enjoyed it immensely.
I've spent the past month reading information on all things w124.. and my 54-y/o brain is now a little mushy. There's a ton of great information and experience on the net from w124 owners/gurus.
Question I have is:
Will a 17x7.5 ET37 from a w210 fit a w124? I know that the diameter and width will fit, My concern is the offset. Rolling the fenders if necessary wouldn't be a issue
I plan on installing H&R springs and Bilstein Sports (per the consensus of the posts that I've read).
Thank you for your input/response,
Chad & Janet
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#152
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Hello All!
I'm in the process of gathering parts for a very near purchase of a 1993 300CE, I owned a '89 300CE about 15-years ago and enjoyed it immensely.
I've spent the past month reading information on all things w124.. and my 54-y/o brain is now a little mushy. There's a ton of great information and experience on the net from w124 owners/gurus.
Question I have is:
Will a 17x7.5 ET37 from a w210 fit a w124? I know that the diameter and width will fit, My concern is the offset. Rolling the fenders if necessary wouldn't be a issue
I plan on installing H&R springs and Bilstein Sports (per the consensus of the posts that I've read).
Thank you for your input/response,
Chad & Janet
I'm in the process of gathering parts for a very near purchase of a 1993 300CE, I owned a '89 300CE about 15-years ago and enjoyed it immensely.
I've spent the past month reading information on all things w124.. and my 54-y/o brain is now a little mushy. There's a ton of great information and experience on the net from w124 owners/gurus.
Question I have is:
Will a 17x7.5 ET37 from a w210 fit a w124? I know that the diameter and width will fit, My concern is the offset. Rolling the fenders if necessary wouldn't be a issue
I plan on installing H&R springs and Bilstein Sports (per the consensus of the posts that I've read).
Thank you for your input/response,
Chad & Janet
These wheels will fit very good, scroll up to post #55 to see pictures of my W124 with the 17" 7,5" ET37.
#155
Need help!
can anyone please help to answer if theese would fit my w124 1987 200d https://www.gumtree.com/p/wheel-rims-tyres/azev-a-18-s-pcd-5x112-j8.5-j10-staggered-mercedes-t4-vw-other-models-not-bbs-oz/1285549714
any help much appreciated.
any help much appreciated.
#156
These are awsome help the car look way better and fits way more tire i have them on m
Instructions on rolling the fender lips, and installing the fender spacers, are here (scroll to the bottom - look for "wheel_install...") :
http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W124/
http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/W124/
#158
After lots of Research here is my setup
Hello All,
After reading this thread and many others over the years I finally changed out the stock wheels. I finally wore out the tires that were on the car so I could justify it.
I wanted a set of 16" Aero 1 s, but I have not been able to find any for a reasonable sum and the experiment I did was my first step to what I feel was determining the best setup for this car. So here are my specific thoughts.
My car is the E420 with M119 so I think I would adjust this if I had an E320 as I've had both. My thought for years is that I couldn't hook up the power the car has in the stock dimensions which I'm sure most would agree with. I am a car guy but I never thought I would run a staggered setup but after doing the math over and over and taking into consideration the way the car behaves and handles I think the ideal combo for everything is:
16" x 7.5
205 55r16 front
225 50r16 rear
I have eibachs on the car but I also ha e shims so it's balanced. This looks absolutely perfect. Everything in the wells. Handles perfect and hooks up much much better. It even compliments the way the car naturally feels. I can detect some weight difference and the 16 doesn't feel as scrappy and quick but the trade off is worth it. I want to get a pair of 15x7 so I can trade them out staggered as well to do direct comparisons..but the sidewall height on the 16s is just absolutely perfect from aesthetics to performance to comfort.
If I was running them on the e320 Id probably do 205s all around.
After reading this thread and many others over the years I finally changed out the stock wheels. I finally wore out the tires that were on the car so I could justify it.
I wanted a set of 16" Aero 1 s, but I have not been able to find any for a reasonable sum and the experiment I did was my first step to what I feel was determining the best setup for this car. So here are my specific thoughts.
My car is the E420 with M119 so I think I would adjust this if I had an E320 as I've had both. My thought for years is that I couldn't hook up the power the car has in the stock dimensions which I'm sure most would agree with. I am a car guy but I never thought I would run a staggered setup but after doing the math over and over and taking into consideration the way the car behaves and handles I think the ideal combo for everything is:
16" x 7.5
205 55r16 front
225 50r16 rear
I have eibachs on the car but I also ha e shims so it's balanced. This looks absolutely perfect. Everything in the wells. Handles perfect and hooks up much much better. It even compliments the way the car naturally feels. I can detect some weight difference and the 16 doesn't feel as scrappy and quick but the trade off is worth it. I want to get a pair of 15x7 so I can trade them out staggered as well to do direct comparisons..but the sidewall height on the 16s is just absolutely perfect from aesthetics to performance to comfort.
If I was running them on the e320 Id probably do 205s all around.
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#159
Hi guys- was wondering if stock wheels from a 2009 C300 will fit a bone stock 1992 400E. Wheel size is 7.5 x 17 with a +47 offset, tire size is 225/45R17. I do not want to roll any fenders. The 1010tires offset calculator says the wheel will extend 10mm inboard and 16mm outboard. I read on a previous post that the studs on more modern MBs are M14x1.5 rather than M12x1.5 like the older ones, will this cause any issues with the nuts seating in the rim? Thanks in advance!
#160
Thanks for the chart and the discussion. I have access to buying some original 15 hole MB 16 x 8 wheels with 34 offset for my 1988 300CE. A slight upgrade from my standard MB 15inch wheels. The chart suggests they will fit but im still nervous. Anyone had experience with these? do they fit without spacers? Apparently same wheels were also in the r129s and some of the 16V w201s
#161
300E
Good afternoon all. This being my 1st post, had to ask the following:
I have 2 types of set of Monoblocks II that I'm looking to purchase for my '92 300E project, which currently is stock height.
1st set are Fronts 17 x 7.5 ET35 / Rears are 17 x 8.5 ET30.
2nd set are Fronts 18 x 8 ET31 / Rears are 18 x 8 ET31
As for tires, I have read a combo for the staggered 17's as fronts 215/45/17 and rears 225/45/17 and 225/45/18 for the 18's.
My question is, which one should I do? I do plan on lowering the 300E, which is a '92, with H&R springs, bilstein shocks, but that's a 40% chance.
I do want a nice ride, yet changing its look from the 15 inch chromies that it currently rides one.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
'92 300E
I have 2 types of set of Monoblocks II that I'm looking to purchase for my '92 300E project, which currently is stock height.
1st set are Fronts 17 x 7.5 ET35 / Rears are 17 x 8.5 ET30.
2nd set are Fronts 18 x 8 ET31 / Rears are 18 x 8 ET31
As for tires, I have read a combo for the staggered 17's as fronts 215/45/17 and rears 225/45/17 and 225/45/18 for the 18's.
My question is, which one should I do? I do plan on lowering the 300E, which is a '92, with H&R springs, bilstein shocks, but that's a 40% chance.
I do want a nice ride, yet changing its look from the 15 inch chromies that it currently rides one.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
'92 300E
#162
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tire sizes
Age old wheel/tire questions and I've done them both.
Your tire size picks for the 17's are as close as you can get with the staggered set you mentioned.. good to go
But your 18" pick is too big, the 18's need 225/40
Your goals are not to rub, and stay as close to "Stock" tire diameter as possible, (which = 25" exactly)
Stock = 195/65 15 = 25"
215/45 17 = 24.6"
225/45 17 = 25"
.4” diff
225/45 18 = 25.7"
225/40 18 = 25"
That extra .7" will have you rubbing
Here is a very helpful link to compare wheel and tire combo's
http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp
Another link to look at stock sizes
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/in.../mercedes-benz
I ran both identical sets your talking about on my 92 300CE, the 18's looked the best, but were pothole magnates, easily damaged
I ended going back to 17" with the bigger sidewalls, and eventually went back to 16's, which I believe are the best combination for these 124's
I have 3 piece OZ Aero I 16's on the 92 CE now, and 16" Aero I monoblocks on the 94 E420
The ride of the 16's are great on both cars, the wheels look awesome, and the suspensions are designed for these smaller wheels to begin with.
See pic's attached, my coupe with the 18 Mono II's, and 16 OZ Aero's, also, if you have a 92, you'll want Euro headlights, much brighter, and they look 1000% better than the USA POS.
Good afternoon all. This being my 1st post, had to ask the following:
I have 2 types of set of Monoblocks II that I'm looking to purchase for my '92 300E project, which currently is stock height.
1st set are Fronts 17 x 7.5 ET35 / Rears are 17 x 8.5 ET30.
2nd set are Fronts 18 x 8 ET31 / Rears are 18 x 8 ET31
As for tires, I have read a combo for the staggered 17's as fronts 215/45/17 and rears 225/45/17 and 225/45/18 for the 18's.
My question is, which one should I do? I do plan on lowering the 300E, which is a '92, with H&R springs, bilstein shocks, but that's a 40% chance.
I do want a nice ride, yet changing its look from the 15 inch chromies that it currently rides one.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
'92 300E
I have 2 types of set of Monoblocks II that I'm looking to purchase for my '92 300E project, which currently is stock height.
1st set are Fronts 17 x 7.5 ET35 / Rears are 17 x 8.5 ET30.
2nd set are Fronts 18 x 8 ET31 / Rears are 18 x 8 ET31
As for tires, I have read a combo for the staggered 17's as fronts 215/45/17 and rears 225/45/17 and 225/45/18 for the 18's.
My question is, which one should I do? I do plan on lowering the 300E, which is a '92, with H&R springs, bilstein shocks, but that's a 40% chance.
I do want a nice ride, yet changing its look from the 15 inch chromies that it currently rides one.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
'92 300E
#163
Thank You for the information. And yes, I am also upgrading the headlights to euro, since the plastic headlight bezels are broken and heavily oxidized. I will most likely go with the 18's, and just keep it stock height for the meantime.
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#168
Check this table from alloy wheels direct. The W124 is on there.
Looks like 245/45R17 are what you need but they might rub.
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/in.../mercedes-benz
This thread has a lot of setups that other forum members use
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ar-thread.html
There's a lot of info on this on this forum, using the search function helps.
Normal W124s can't run as wide tyres as E500E. Also some people use fender spacers or have rolled fenders.
Looks like 245/45R17 are what you need but they might rub.
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/in.../mercedes-benz
This thread has a lot of setups that other forum members use
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ar-thread.html
There's a lot of info on this on this forum, using the search function helps.
Normal W124s can't run as wide tyres as E500E. Also some people use fender spacers or have rolled fenders.
Last edited by Habil; 02-24-2021 at 04:08 AM.
#169
Check this table from alloy wheels direct. The W124 is on there.
Looks like 245/45R17 are what you need but they might rub.
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/in.../mercedes-benz
This thread has a lot of setups that other forum members use
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ar-thread.html
There's a lot of info on this on this forum, using the search function helps.
Normal W124s can't run as wide tyres as E500E. Also some people use fender spacers or have rolled fenders.
Looks like 245/45R17 are what you need but they might rub.
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/in.../mercedes-benz
This thread has a lot of setups that other forum members use
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ar-thread.html
There's a lot of info on this on this forum, using the search function helps.
Normal W124s can't run as wide tyres as E500E. Also some people use fender spacers or have rolled fenders.
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#173
Hello Everyone,
This is a fantastic post! Thank you to all the members who have contributed to this resource! I have a NOOB questions about rim sizes and offsets because the offset part still confuses the heck out of me. I have a 1995 W124 E250D wagon (Euro Import) and I am looking to add a set of Monoblock II's in either 17" or 18". I have come across multiple sets for sale but I am still nervous to purchase as I do not know if the offsets will work? I am going to post the specs from each set below and if someone could tell me if either set will work and what tire sizes I should purchase to avoid rubbing that would be great. I also am planning to lower the car at some point with H&R Springs and Bilstein Sports, as this seems to be the most logical setup.
Set #1:
Fronts - 18x8 ET31 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 18x8 ET47 (will these require spacers?) (Tire Size - )
Set #2
Fronts - 18x8 ET35 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 18x9 ET30 (Tire Size - )
Set#3
Fronts - 17x8 ET30 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 17x9 ET25 (Tire Size - )
Thanks in Advance,
Ryan
95' E250D Estate - 5 Speed
This is a fantastic post! Thank you to all the members who have contributed to this resource! I have a NOOB questions about rim sizes and offsets because the offset part still confuses the heck out of me. I have a 1995 W124 E250D wagon (Euro Import) and I am looking to add a set of Monoblock II's in either 17" or 18". I have come across multiple sets for sale but I am still nervous to purchase as I do not know if the offsets will work? I am going to post the specs from each set below and if someone could tell me if either set will work and what tire sizes I should purchase to avoid rubbing that would be great. I also am planning to lower the car at some point with H&R Springs and Bilstein Sports, as this seems to be the most logical setup.
Set #1:
Fronts - 18x8 ET31 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 18x8 ET47 (will these require spacers?) (Tire Size - )
Set #2
Fronts - 18x8 ET35 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 18x9 ET30 (Tire Size - )
Set#3
Fronts - 17x8 ET30 (Tire Size - )
Rears - 17x9 ET25 (Tire Size - )
Thanks in Advance,
Ryan
95' E250D Estate - 5 Speed
#174
Fitment question
I just purchased a squared set of 17 x 7.5" Monoblocks with ET35 on all four wheels. Will these fit my 1995 W124 Wagon? I am pretty sure that I read somewhere in this post that they will be good, but I just wanted to confirm? The fitment guide mentioned that ET 42 was the correct fitment for 17 x 7.5" wheels??? DO I need to run a 5mm spacer with this setup?
Thanks,
Ryan
Thanks,
Ryan
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1995 e320 sedan
Wheel arch roller
Yeah, I noticed the document was a little vague on exactly how to modify the rear fender! Strange, huh. I really am not sure what they're trying to do there. Your 245 tire isn't bad on the rear, I think with a proper fender roll it should work ok. The nicest unit I know of is the Eastwood tool, click here for more information on it... you might be able to rent one from a forum member? (I don't have one, sorry!)
FYI, might help…