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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Turbo Hood Mod ????

Picked up a set of Z34 hood vents on EBAY for $48.00.
All metal so they can be flush set in the hood.

Reminiscent of the Mosselman Silver Arrow heat extractors...

Just laid one on the hood for a rough idea of how they will look...

Will help with heat extraction for the turbos...

GO OR NO GO ??????





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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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are you really gonna take your pristine 300ce, which you have lovingly maintained since it was brand spanking new, and do THAT?!?

My vote is no-go, man. I'd be all over it if you were driving a muscle car. Your car is definitely fast for a w124, but I still consider it a luxury car first and foremost.

Also, how would you keep the moisture out? If you're thinking of installing it in that area, it seems dangerously close to a lot of electronics that sit near the battery.

Sorry to poo on your idea.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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The danger is in losing the classic look as Pete suggest. I wouldn't do it but then I'm not you
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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I say go for it! Hoods are cheap and that would help airflow from the turbos. The w124 engine bays are actually pretty well sealed up compared to most cars and I know that in my 400E it got really really hot in there and had adverse effects on plastic bits.

The good thing about this vent is that it is of the same era and design theme of the w124. It is more square and the rib theme plays out in the grille, the seats, and the tail lights. So what I am saying is that it isn't out of place. It would look better too if you go for the v12 or avantgarde grille.

It's a functional mod,
Do it.

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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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I'd say do what you like, if that dose not work out you can alway get a new hood.
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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might be pretty hot... like myfirstbenz said, get the updated grill, and match the fins to that, it might look pretty cool!
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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im a big fan of updating but keeping with the w124 style....plus you gotta keep your temps down and get cool air for some more hp . i say do it
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Try the cooling mod to the headlight wiper trim panels first...this seems like a drastic mod for such a pristine CE..

I take it you won't take the car out in the rain once you do the mod? Water in W124 engine bays = the suck.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Try the cooling mod to the headlight wiper trim panels first...this seems like a drastic mod for such a pristine CE..

I take it you won't take the car out in the rain once you do the mod? Water in W124 engine bays = the suck.
Still on the fence....if I do install the louvers it will be in another hood...

Problem with the modified headlight wiper trim is that they would provide little or no cooling, let alone heat extraction.
The turbo/passenger side has the cast aluminum air filter box against the headlight with the cold air intake coming in from the bumper.
Any opening would just be blocked by the air box.

I'm trying more to extract heat then bring in cool air.
Plenty of cold air being fed to the turbos.
No problem with engine temp, stays under 90, but a lot of heat coming off the turbos.
Lower temps = more power.

You'll see a similar heat extractor on the 1992 300CE and 300SL Silver Arrows.


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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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rain would be my only issue...but otherwise...go for it
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
might be pretty hot... like myfirstbenz said, get the updated grill, and match the fins to that, it might look pretty cool!

You mean like this ????



I have a lot of parts at the paint shop.
The pic with the louver shows a brand new stock grille and surround.
The old surround will be painted signal red ala early AMG body color match.
The old stock insert will be shell gray to match the cladding.
I'm having new bumper inserts painted to match the cladding along with a Wald EX replica front spoiler.
I'll paint another stock insert black and have a set of the stock chrome trim bars in signal red and one set in chrome.
Intend to do much mixing and matching until I get the correct look....

Also have OEM style Euro headlights with lower blanking plates or with wipers.

And yes...still have the S600 / Avantgarde grille
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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Before doing that see if you can get your hands on a front fender from a W124 turbo deisel. They have vents slightly behind the turn signals specifically for the turbo on those vehicles. You could route some flexible tubing to that vent and save yourself from cutting into the hood.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NorCal124
Before doing that see if you can get your hands on a front fender from a W124 turbo deisel. They have vents slightly behind the turn signals specifically for the turbo on those vehicles. You could route some flexible tubing to that vent and save yourself from cutting into the hood.
You beat me to it.

Try looking into 300D fenders, might help out.

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Before doing that see if you can get your hands on a front fender from a W124 turbo deisel. They have vents slightly behind the turn signals specifically for the turbo on those vehicles. You could route some flexible tubing to that vent and save yourself from cutting into the hood.
Vented diesel fender won't do a thing.....
I believe they are designed for the air intake.

If I do anything it has to be a heat extractor to release the hot air trapped under the hood.

Mosselman Silver Arrows used one louvered extractor on top of the turbos and the other on top if the intake area where they mounted an intewrcooler on top of the throttle body.

I'm getting plenty of cold air from the intake below the bumper and the intercooler is on the chassis rail parallel to the engine.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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I can tell from your posts that you really want to do this mod, so what's keeping you from doing it??

Just go for it, I think it will look really goood!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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I can tell from your posts that you really want to do this mod, so what's keeping you from doing it??

Just go for it, I think it will look really goood!!!
Will probably do it when I can get a slot in the body shop, which could be next year.
Shops around here look at money making collison work first, then something like this or even a complete pant job as "fill in" work.
Probably pick up another hood and let the shop work at their convenience.

Trying to maintain a "period" look....this is as close as I can get to the Mosselman cars.

The twin turbos develop a great deal of heat that gets trapped under the hood.....heat is always the major cause of component failure.

Wouldn't even consider if it wasn't a performance enhancement
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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I would like to vote again.. Do it If I had turbos I'd be all over it. If you look at the examples that you gave from mosselman, and if you look at the Brabus CLS Rocket, they all do the same venting due to turbo heat, it is a must since heat kills turbo bearings and oil quality.

I don't think rain would be that big of an issue, and if it did become a problem with steam being created at a stop light or something, you could have a simple panel affixed just below the vents to channel the water while still letting the heat escape.

Get er dun
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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since you are deleting your headlight wipers, you could redirect the washer fluid hoses to spray water on your turbos to keep them cool

I kid, I kid
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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have you checked PUMPISH's car and setup?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124...o-project.html
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have you checked PUMPISH's car and setup?

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124...o-project.html
I love the performance of that car, but that hood is fugly
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by myfirstbenz
I love the performance of that car, but that hood is fugly
Yup, but i bet it doesn't have problems with the rain...

With the heat that the turbos dissipate, the rain shurely evaporates...
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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I think that vent would upset the lines of the car.
The diesel wing (fender) is not much use unless you re-site the washer bottle to allow airflow.
What I like most about the twin turbo conversion is its subtlety. I'd keep it stock.
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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get a hood from a scrap yard, install the vent in it, and if you like it, paint it to match the car. if you don't like it, all you're out is the cost of a scrap yard hood.
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