jmoney6

I've been saving up to turn my 300e 4-matic into an AMG or as close as possible to one as I can. And when it came time to the motor I was originally thinking building a 500e motor, but lately i've been thinking could it work to put in an e500 motor from like an 03 or 04. I know i'd have to do a tone of custom work, but could it be done, and what would i have to do to fit an 04 e500 motor nto my 93 300e. (or e55 motor dependign on how much my dads willing ot help m eout on this project)

ZedStyle

why not just buy an e500/500e, it would probably end up being cheaper. do you have any idea what you will have to do to get any v8 into your engine bay?

jmoney6

yeah, I heard its major surgery, but would a modern motor fit into a 400e?. Do you think the drive trains could mesh?

shadowgriffen

This sounds all too familiar

You can do anything, if you have the $$$ for it.

E55 motor sounds like fun, but good luck getting it in there!

watut

Dude drop a Hemi in that *****

jmoney6

If i parted with the 300e (after i stopped crying) and bought a 400e or e420, could i realisticlly throw in a crate motor? regardles sof cost, i just think it woudl be awsome.

ptoro01

Welllll, You have about as much class as a Mercedes replica called the Lexus. So simply return your mercedes to its previous owner and we'll find you a lexus in your price range that you can hack to ****.

floodkid

havent heard much of converting a 300e

but i have heard plenty of ppl changing engines in the diesles

350 chevy is the most popular, heard rumors of there actually being a "kit" to convert it.
but there are plenty of other engines theyve done stuff like this with

search the forums... think i saw it on mercedesshop forums.. or not.. idk, too long ago.

realistically, find one thats not in good shape if you wana chop it up. if she runs fine, dont break her.
i have a 300CDT that has a locked up engine ('81 if anyone wants PM me and we can talk) that my dad wanted to convert. too much time+money+space.

i bet it would haul @** though.

jmoney6

i love my car its just so god damn slow...

Saijin_Naib

^ Same, but that is just what the car is. Do some NA tuning and then maybe a turbo or a super-charger.

jmoney6

its the 12v 4 matic is there a way to fit a 24v head on the motor and or convert it to a twin ohc?

also if i turbo or kompress tit besides the turbo piping what has to be done to the motor.

also if i make it faster with forced indction is there a way to put longer gears in and or a 5th gear

ohlord

put my two cents in.First by the lack of knowledge you display about this car,you should not consider any kind of conversion or modifications.The car was constructed for stately drives at high speed on highways,not 0-60 runs on the streets of podunk.
Best bet,you sell it for what it is worth in current condition(about 250bucks)and buy a ricer.Or keep it and learn more about the car,so that you won't have to ask if you can stick a dohc on it.
You have a long way to go in learning about engines and cars before you even think about speed mods on the benz,and if you had the money to have someone do it for you,I doubt you have the driving experience to handle the power.

ohlord

jmoney6

dude wtf. 250 dollars why r u beein an *** hole bro. The e320's had a motor with twin cams on top hence the name DOHC or duel as in 2 over head cams. Would the hed with the 24valve twin cam fit on a 12 valve motor. and handle the power from 170 to 220 wooo so much power. no one sai i'd street racng it i just want some more umph in the car.

Ortolan

Buy the twin turbo kit from Turbo Technics (search the forum) or trade in for a V8 W124.

RBYCC

Don't negate the power output of a twin turbo M103-12V.

I'm running low five second 0-60's with a modernized Turbo Technics kit.

Faster then about all of the "modern" V8 AMG NA engines ( 43, 55 ) and approaching 6 liter Hammer performance.

The stock 3.07 gear is fine for street use !

Ed A.

ZedStyle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3lyl5LSdyo

jmoney6

u have the stock 4 spd tranny? and how much was ur turbo kit...
also what else did u do besides bolt on the TT's

Rio Z Lander

id go for it the only thing stopping you is well you or money if you need it.
i plan to drop a 500e motor in to my car. that would make it allot of fun to drive.
meh the only thing bugging me is the dino over at my college keeps giving me odd read outs for my hp last told me 250 this time 232HP ????? it dose not sound right to me at all. ill just have to try back in a year and see what it tells me.

RBYCC

I bought the 300CE new in May of 1988.
Started with a well maintained 63K mile motor.

Turbo kit is a "bolt-on", but not really !!

Kit was $2600.00 complete delivered to my door.
Bought the kit from a U.K. MB dealership who had them sitting in their inventory for fifteen years.

Kept the boost at .48 bar / 7 PSI, but did not use the antiquated piggy back fuel enrichment system.
Went with a stand alone Split Second additional injector controller, 3D mappable that keeps the AFR around .85 lamba / 12.5:1 under boost.

Nothing done to the transmission, no need to.
Suspension modified with H&R Sport springs, Bilstein HD's and Sportline swaybars.

Exhaust system supplied with the kit is a full twin 2.5" stainless steel system.
Each down pipe goes to it's own Magnaflow Spun Metal high flow cat, no intermediate silencers, just direct to the rear silencer with 2 x 2.5" in and out.

Modernized the intake and boost piping with silicone and aluminum tubing.
Installed a high flow K&N panel filter which intakes directly from the intercooler plenum behind the removed tow panel on the front spoiler.

RBYCC

260E on a load dyno will read about 125HP, on an inertia dyno maybe about 140HP.

Rio Z Lander

*thinks* im out on this one it is a new dino that the college has. that could be it but i got a big bore 6 in this car right now. im at a loss for the HP????? it is starting to tick me off i have timed the car at a 0-60 in 7 seconds i have done 145mph in this car it is fast and has the get up and go so i am at a loss for what the hp is.altho i don't know why i care so much this motor will be riped out in the next 2 years and i hope to have a v8 in its place or a better inline6.

RBYCC

Here's a true point of reference.

I have a twin turbo M103-12V, 3.0 liter I6.
0-60 in low five seconds.
Base line dyno was 135RWP against a published flywheel 177HP.
Indicates a 30% drive train loss.
Dyno'd after TT install at 195RWP on a Mustang load dyno.
Dyno Jet inertia type dyno would probably show 220RWP.

Rio Z Lander

hu well that helps but i find it hard to think that the hp of this car is so low just stock crud the ford Taurus that we has better hp and no it is not the ford Taurus SHO

Chappy

This would be an easier fit....

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wan/437090994.html

RBYCC

Not a bad price !!!