M103 vs m104 engine
12-21-2007, 07:55 PM
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1989 190E 3.0L 5speed
You aren't in Bellingham are you? I worked for a guy who had a car just like yours and called it the wolf. Is yours white with black 16-valve leather interior?
If you are going to the trouble to swap a motor like that, go with the 3.6L AMG 104 motor used in the C36. It has been done before.
If you are going to the trouble to swap a motor like that, go with the 3.6L AMG 104 motor used in the C36. It has been done before.
Would the 3.6 bolt up to my 5-speed? And where could i even find one of these motors. I am finding out that anything AMG is pretty hard to come by.Look familiar?
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12-21-2007, 08:08 PM
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89 300TE, and 68 280sel
I worked for Kent for a few summers back in the day. I actually worked on that car when he first got it. Back windows weren't working, and it turned out the wires had broken from flexing too much. IIRC you have the 16 valve body kit minus the wheel arch lips.
I have driven that car and found that it had plenty of power as is, but I can understand how you would want more. If you were to do it, I would ask around in the w201 section since I am not sure if your tranny would bolt up to the 3.6L motor. Finding a 3.6 that is in fare shape might be an entirely different battle. Check out www.car-part.com
I have driven that car and found that it had plenty of power as is, but I can understand how you would want more. If you were to do it, I would ask around in the w201 section since I am not sure if your tranny would bolt up to the 3.6L motor. Finding a 3.6 that is in fare shape might be an entirely different battle. Check out www.car-part.com
12-21-2007, 11:45 PM
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The 3.0L M103 has SOHC and 177hp. It was used in the 1986-1992 300E sedan and the 1988-1989 300CE coupe as well as the 1988-1992 300TE wagons.
In 1990, they installed a 3.0L M104 DOHC (217hp) in the 1990-1992 300CE (this motor was only installed in the coupes).
In 1990, they installed a 3.0L M104 DOHC (217hp) in the 1990-1992 300CE (this motor was only installed in the coupes).
In 1993-1995, they installed the 3.2L M104 DOHC (217hp) in the sedan, wagon and coupe.
This also doesn't cover the 2.6L motors.....someone else can chime in with that info.
This also doesn't cover the 2.6L motors.....someone else can chime in with that info.
the 3.0 was also used in the W201 but only in police/ dignitary escort models. so its also very very rare. but being that externally the 2.6 and 3.0 are the same its not a surprise.
12-23-2007, 04:12 AM
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erm, yes. and no
you can fit an M104 head (early) on a 103 block. youll need to do similar modifications as mercedes did.
the early 104 was a modified 103 block with a new twin cam head. read the details on the changes but were talking about something i read almost 16 years ago.
i wouldnt bother though.
you can fit an M104 head (early) on a 103 block. youll need to do similar modifications as mercedes did.
the early 104 was a modified 103 block with a new twin cam head. read the details on the changes but were talking about something i read almost 16 years ago.
i wouldnt bother though.
12-26-2007, 07:22 AM
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and W460, W126, W140, W202, R107
and R129
the 2.6 was used in the W460, W126, W124, W201. in the W126 it was only in the SWB models (260SE) and extremely rare.
the 3.0 was also used in the W201 but only in police/ dignitary escort models. so its also very very rare. but being that externally the 2.6 and 3.0 are the same its not a surprise.
and R129
the 2.6 was used in the W460, W126, W124, W201. in the W126 it was only in the SWB models (260SE) and extremely rare.
the 3.0 was also used in the W201 but only in police/ dignitary escort models. so its also very very rare. but being that externally the 2.6 and 3.0 are the same its not a surprise.
01-03-2008, 11:52 PM
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300TE / 300E / 300CE
erm, yes. and no
you can fit an M104 head (early) on a 103 block. youll need to do similar modifications as mercedes did.
the early 104 was a modified 103 block with a new twin cam head. read the details on the changes but were talking about something i read almost 16 years ago.
i wouldnt bother though.
you can fit an M104 head (early) on a 103 block. youll need to do similar modifications as mercedes did.
the early 104 was a modified 103 block with a new twin cam head. read the details on the changes but were talking about something i read almost 16 years ago.
i wouldnt bother though.
01-04-2008, 07:59 AM
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Disclaimer: Speaking in terms of W124 here only for the U.S. Market.
