89CE

Hi all! Im thinking of buying a set of Euro lights for my car but I know that my plugs need to be converted to H4's and H3's.
Does anyone know how to do this cleanly?
Thanks in advance.

ebennz

89ce

all that stuff comes with the euro lights.

peter

Joaquin

After many hours of reseach this week, the Bottom Line (least expense) is buying euro headlights, corners, and superwhite bulbs (H4 & H3) from import vision (Ken should be able to offer you the same deal that I got below) and buying the 6 pin connectors from your local Benz dealer (Frank gave me 10% off in St Peterburg, Florida). Note: MB dealers in California will not supply the connectors or vacuum adjuster due to local/legal constraints.

See the instructions for W124 conversion found in the link attached below, but keep in mind that:
A) you do not have to install the vacuum adjust capability. I'm doing it cause it looks easy and relatively inexpesive for $100,
B) nor do you need to add relays or additional fuses unless, inexplicably, like the author, want to wire your low beams and fog lamps to come on with the high beams. The 80/100 H4 super whites should illuminate just fine working independently as intended and not require relays nor wiring the lights directly to the battery.

My notes for European Headlight Upgrade (W124, 1986-1994) with clear Corner lenses and yellow bulbs follow:

Installation link for instructions with photos: http://www.mbca.org/w124.htm (NOTE: authors # for switch light panel is missing a digit, should read: 124 680 03 65)

Sources:
1. Import vision: Ken - www.importvision.com [mailto:ivm1@msn.com] 805-306-1694 (CALIF) Depo brand (Italian), $229 (no bulbs or plugs), $20 for 4 xenon super white bulbs (H4, 80/100W, low/high beams and H3, 80W fog), $20 corners, $14 kit to retain wiper kit, but unknown source------$total $265.85 + $20 bulbs incl. corners. Rating: real nice guy, good service, best price. Uses PayPal (Ebay)
2. PUMA: (Ohio) Paul
(800) 35-HELLA (354-3552) $429 (incl. bulbs + city lights+ plugs) corners are $69, (800) 333-PUMA (333-7862) $498 total. Rating real nice guy, good service, most expensive, well-known brand. Can use Visa.
3. Mercantile Europarts (Miami) Roberto $295 (+$45 corners) +$4 colored blinker bulbs, Depo brand, 6747 SW 8th St, Miami 33144, 305-266-0507 x106 . Rating: poor service, no stock, little knowledge (Ebay) although they clain that their kit contains everything.
4. Mercedes Benz (Crown EuroCars StPetersburg, Fl) 727-527-5731, Frank x2323,2324,2325,
* Two 6 pin electrical connectors # 006 545 80 28 ($3.50 ea.) and two covers # 009 545 30 28 ($4.50 ea.) = $16
* European headlight switch panel # 124 680 03 65 ($22.50)
* European headlight level control vacuum switch # 000 800 04 73 ($62.04)
Total = $100.54 - 10%= $90.49
* Two below headlight metal trim panels #s 124 889 05 63 and 124 889 06 63 (ordered from Caliber)

Still need: 3pin corner yellow bulbs and 10' vacuum tubing + 2 "Y" fittings+ 1 vacuum check valve

89CE

Thanks for the reply and suggestions. I got the lights from Ken of Import Vision last week and got a great deal on them. Picked it up from Simi for $200 cash. Ive since installed them and just bought the lower trim without the headlamp washers. Im just waiting for the paint and should finish everything by this weekend. My last stop for the headlight project is to convert them to 8000K HID by next month. I will post an update once I get that done.
Thanks again.

pkmaven

If you are doing a full conversion with wipers, you will need two large rubber wiper motor seals as used for the same purpose on the 126 body S-Class. These cover the 1/2" size hole in the lower trim panels. The wiper motors, arms and blades are the same as found on the '94-95 124 body. The "city light" option requires purchasing two additional pins, available at any MB parts window. these are wired to the driving light wire on the corner flashers. The small flashlight bulb Osram#3893, BA9s, 12v 4w, fits in the hole in the reflector to provide a soft, illuminated glow to accompany your driving lights when headlight selector switch is in the first position.

Joaquin

First, thank you for your before/after photos. Although I have ordered the blank trim pieces, your wipers look great and I am now convinced to have wipers for my new euro lamps. some questions, please:
1) Can the 94-95 longer wiper arms simply be fitted to the existing wiper shaft of the earlier 124?
2) If the newer motors and wipers are indicated:
a. Did you buy new or from salvage yard and what is the expected cost?
b. Will the existing under light metal trim pieces work or are they different on the newer models?
3) Did you make the vacuum upgrade to allow headlight adjustment?

pkmaven

The long wipers are long because they wipe a big glass lens instead of a tiny headlight surrounded by plastic. The motor mounts in a different location on the back of the Euro. These motors, used on '94-95 E320, can be ordered at discounted prices from Rusty at 800-741-5252 or sourced at a salvage yard with the wiper arms. P.

Brian McL

Hi: I've order the euro lights from Ken @ Importvision and also the H4 superwhite 80/100 and the H3 80watt for the fogs, as suggested in this thread. I am concerned that they maybe too hot or draw too much power for the wires in the 1990 300E they are intended for. Haven't got the lights yet and would like to get a little feedback on success/problems other have had with this installation using these bulbs/wires/housings. Anyway modification or precautions to take? Thanks

thegentleMAN

how are depos?

Brian McL

Good value...but they aren't Bosch.