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Old 04-08-2010, 10:59 AM
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Different AMG Monoblock?

Are there different variants of the AMG monoblock rims?

I see version II
Does this mean there is a version I?
Also, what are aeros?
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Originally Posted by spetz
Are there different variants of the AMG monoblock rims?

I see version II
Does this mean there is a version I?
Also, what are aeros?
Aero's were the earlier wheel, made by OZ for AMG.
Came in many sizes and were 1,2, and 3 piece lightweight design.

Monoblocks are similar to Aero's and again came single or multi piece.
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Mono I's...note the sharper edges on the spokes and the lack of /// on the AMG logo

Different AMG Monoblock?-img_0013.jpg

Mono II's...note the rounded edges on the spokes and the newer ///AMG logo...

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What he said, but...you can also find Aero I monoblock wheels with the ///

The defining feature is the shape.
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I have the Monoblock II's on my wagon. Aren't the hub lug holes, (on a w124), meant to accept a 14 mm lug, whereas the Monoblock rims have 15 mm holes in them? I suppose the acorn seated lugs correct this to a certain extent.
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Quick question i have these what are these called?

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^Not monoblocks.
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Thanks guys,

Monoblock II's look the best in my opinion. Now I know what to look for when it's time to buy rims
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Originally Posted by spetz
Thanks guys,

Monoblock II's look the best in my opinion. Now I know what to look for when it's time to buy rims
It is good you like the II's best, because I's are very hard to find. That said, I think you are wrong that II's look best, at least on the the W124. To me, the 16" version of the I's is one of the most beautiful and perfect wheels you could possibly mount on a W124.




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The I's look good too, but I think they would look better in a bigger size on a 126
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I like the I's too with the wedge shaped slots and harder edges following the angular lines of the W124. I think the II's look good on most Benz's but best on the '94 and later cars because the body design had softer lines. "Aero" implies more of a full face wheel and more modern wheels tend to have less material following the later BBS designs. Also, more people (mostly younger) seem like the more rim less tire look regardless of performance or ride. Auto design students were drawing them like that in the 80's to fill the large wheel wells and manufacturer's finally caught up...

I like my AMG/OZ 16's mainly for the design with rivets and rarity. Of course 17's would be nice!

Here's another variant:
Attached Thumbnails Different AMG Monoblock?-dscn1266.jpg   Different AMG Monoblock?-amg-20wheel.jpg  

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Is there a list of what cars came with what size rims, offset etc? Mainly for the AMG II's?

ie, what size/offset are the C43, C32, E36, E55 etc rims?

I was looking at some C43 rims to buy a little while back, and they were 17X7.5 and 17X8.5, 30ET and 35ET respectively if I recall correct but it seemed like a bad size for a 124 coupe?
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I'm having a hard time finding these rims for my car. I'll take any variation of this discussion, Aero I, or II's. Any help?
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Originally Posted by benzokirk
I'm having a hard time finding these rims for my car. I'll take any variation of this discussion, Aero I, or II's. Any help?
Because they are discontinued and are somewhat difficult to find

Use crazedlist and keep searching daily. They get snapped up pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by ps2cho
Because they are discontinued and are somewhat difficult to find

Use crazedlist and keep searching daily. They get snapped up pretty quick.
Monoblock II will be easier to find than Aero I
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16 E350 wagon, 94 AMG, sold -95 E320 Sportline wagon & 94 E420 & 95 E320 coupe & 92 190 16v
I posted two sets for sale in the classifieds yesterday.

https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...-like-new.html
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@ronmiller609: true, and now I realize I misstated what I'm looking for: actually looking for Monoblock II's
@spinlps: I checked those but the lip isn't deep enough, or I'd go for the like new set...

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Originally Posted by spinlps
I posted two sets for sale in the classifieds yesterday.
https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...-like-new.html
Nice wheels and worth the price.

Originally Posted by benzokirk
@spinlps: I checked those but the lip isn't deep enough, or I'd go for the like new set...
I think wheels with more lip will rub/stick out like a 4x4. That is the reality of the W124, unless you are willing to make lots of changes.
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Originally Posted by ksing44
Nice wheels and worth the price.



I think wheels with more lip will rub/stick out like a 4x4. That is the reality of the W124, unless you are willing to make lots of changes.
I'd beg to differ... realizing this is a 500E and the front fenders are flared a tad more than the 300E, I wouldn't mind rolling the fenders to get my 300E to look like this. The lip on these would be enough for me.. I'm not talking about the depth of a book shelf, and I'm certainly not into the "steamroller" look either. As you can see in this pic, they're not sticking out, but then the spec's on these wheels are 19x8 and 19x8.5 (Front 245 35 19 Rear 275/30/19). Again, you can get away with this on a 500E, but I would be happy with 17x7 front and 17x7.5 in the rear.
Attached Thumbnails Different AMG Monoblock?-500e1992008.jpg  
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Originally Posted by benzokirk
I'd beg to differ... realizing this is a 500E and the front fenders are flared a tad more than the 300E, I wouldn't mind rolling the fenders to get my 300E to look like this. The lip on these would be enough for me.. I'm not talking about the depth of a book shelf, and I'm certainly not into the "steamroller" look either. As you can see in this pic, they're not sticking out, but then the spec's on these wheels are 19x8 and 19x8.5 (Front 245 35 19 Rear 275/30/19). Again, you can get away with this on a 500E, but I would be happy with 17x7 front and 17x7.5 in the rear.
The 500e front AND rear are flared a lot more that the 300e. You just can't roll the fenders to look like this, it requires major reworking of the fenders and a ton of time and cash, or else I bet damn near everyone on this forum would be doing it, myself included.

The rims for sale are 7.5" front and rear. That is all the lip you will get unless you go with a very low offset pair from a SL, but then they would stick out 4x4 amphibious style....and rub like hell.
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Originally Posted by spinlps
The 500e front AND rear are flared a lot more that the 300e. You just can't roll the fenders to look like this, it requires major reworking of the fenders and a ton of time and cash, or else I bet damn near everyone on this forum would be doing it, myself included.

The rims for sale are 7.5" front and rear. That is all the lip you will get unless you go with a very low offset pair from a SL, but then they would stick out 4x4 amphibious style....and rub like hell.
Okay, so let's not quibble about the fender depth of the 500E, since I don't drive one (yet ). The attached pics exhibit the look I'm after. These are all 300E models, I believe, with the exception of the silver Japanese W124 with the WALD bumper kit and the AMG Wagon. At least I KNOW none of them are 500E's so let's lay that argument to rest.

Look, this is the look I want. I will find the rims I'm looking for, have the work done, post pics afterwards, AND, give an honest report on the amount of rub, if there will be any. I happen to know of individuals, not pictured, who have done so and not experienced the rub, nor did they stick out, just as none of these rims are causing the tyres to stick out in these pics. I will also give an honest report on how much it cost as well as the time it took. The shop that has quoted me for rolling the fenders does a phenomenal job at lowering, rolling, and I've witnessed many examples of their work very comparable to what you see here. They have already quoted lowering by 1" at one hour/$85.00 per wheel/well... I'll let you know...
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The silver 124 is a coupe and by the looks of it, it's fenders are a bit pumped. Look at the rear fenders, they're clearly not standard (I know, I have a 94 Coupe).
And the front also looks a bit pumped.
Not to mention the pre-facelift black one with the blacked out grill also looks to have 500E front fenders
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Originally Posted by spinlps
The 500e front AND rear are flared a lot more that the 300e. You just can't roll the fenders to look like this, it requires major reworking of the fenders and a ton of time and cash, or else I bet damn near everyone on this forum would be doing it, myself included.
True dat!
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benzokirk, the narrower the wheel, the narrower the lip. You said the ones on the 500E are 8 and 8.5, those same wheels in 7 and 7.5 would have a narrower lip.

That wagon has 19's, a %#$^ to fit on a 300E properly. The coupe is flared front and rear, the step lip aero I's are near impossible to find and are expensive and the post facelift you put up in your last post are knock off's not real AMGs, Godfather's car, I believe.

Get those if you want fit and lip....you won't find gen AMG's with that lip, able to fit a standard narrow flared 300E

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"... and the post facelift you put up in your last post are knock off's not real AMGs, Godfather's car, I believe.

Get those if you want fit and lip....you won't find gen AMG's with that lip, able to fit a standard narrow flared 300E[/QUOTE]

Good advice, I'll take it. That's most likely the route I'll go, since gen AMG's are definitely hard to find these days. I'll settle for knock-off's

Thanks!

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