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hello everyone i have a question,i just picked up a set of 9 1/2 x 19 et35 brabus monoblock III and i was wondering if i can install this wheels on my 1989 mercedes 300ce and if i can what size tires can i use.
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Almost nobody runs 19's on a W124. You are best to consult some tire stores. They have all the info required for the correct profile and maintaining the OEM radius of the wheel and tire combo. ET is probably ok.
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Very nice wheels, yet too big for a standard w124. You can *make* them fit with a lot of fender rolling/pulling, but it is not recommended. Your best bet would be to trade those wheels to me for one of my sets of 18's or 17's. 
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Most people find the 19's too harsh a ride on these cars anyway.
18x8.5 is about as big as you want to go. A 17 inch will be lighter, better ride, still look good, and clear most big brake upgrades.
Check out the "W124" Running Gear Thread" at the top of the page for wheel/ tire/suspension combos.
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Right ...there is no way that width rim will work on a standard W124...the only cars I can think of that will fit that size are the SLs (129 and 230) , CLS (219) and the old 500Es (124.036).
Those are great rims by Brabus...you should easily make your money back and then some if they are in nice shape.
Those are great rims by Brabus...you should easily make your money back and then some if they are in nice shape.
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thanks everyone for the replies,i just tried one wheel in the front with out tire and its berly clearing the shock so i have no way of shaving the wheel by 5mm,they do look very good do.
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barely clearing is better than not clearing at all.. youre good to go..
a lot of misinformation about wheel fitment in this thread as well.. at first i was like
a lot of misinformation about wheel fitment in this thread as well.. at first i was like
i think its a bit harder to do that since his wheels are ET35 unless he doesnt mind shaving 5mm off the wheels
If those wheels are the 2pc monoblock IIIs you should try to find new barrels for the front or you can have new lips made to give you that extra space. I know 19x9 +35 fits with rolled fenders. You should ask B. Gorman in the classified sections about getting parts for these.
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Um no
going from a 35 to a 40 will move the rim inwards.The direction he needs to go. A 5 mm spacer would decrease et 5mm to a 30 et moving the rim outwards and further cause problems at the wheel arch..\The 9.5 on a 35 is just plain wrong on a w124.
He can't mill them,he needs to take a pass and look for some 8 or 8.5 in the correct offsets. And if he likes his ride quality pass on the 19's the ride will be ****e.
to say nothing of dodging potholes.
Besides the 19's look silly
He can't mill them,he needs to take a pass and look for some 8 or 8.5 in the correct offsets. And if he likes his ride quality pass on the 19's the ride will be ****e.
to say nothing of dodging potholes.Besides the 19's look silly
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To go from 35 to 40 requires the addition of a 5mm spacer.
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Actually, 5mm would make it a +30. 3mm is the max i would shave a pad. I ran 18x8.5 +42 on my w124 on the front and i had about 2-3mm strut clearance. To run 9.5 you would need a +30-32 offset but it would stick too far out from the fenders on the front. The rear you have way more room and 9.5 fit fine with minor fender rolling. I ran 18x10 +35 on my w202 which has almost the same rear suspension.
Speaking of a 18x10 on a W202. What kind of spacing did you have between the wheel and the fender?
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going from a 35 to a 40 will move the rim inwards.The direction he needs to go. A 5 mm spacer would decrease et 5mm to a 30 et moving the rim outwards and further cause problems at the wheel arch..\The 9.5 on a 35 is just plain wrong on a w124.
He can't mill them,he needs to take a pass and look for some 8 or 8.5 in the correct offsets. And if he likes his ride quality pass on the 19's the ride will be ****e.to say nothing of dodging potholes.
Besides the 19's look silly
He can't mill them,he needs to take a pass and look for some 8 or 8.5 in the correct offsets. And if he likes his ride quality pass on the 19's the ride will be ****e.
to say nothing of dodging potholes.Besides the 19's look silly
Agree on the other comments as well.
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Goodluck haha.
I have 17x8 in the front and they rub on the fenders all the time.
My one front tire is about 8,000 miles old, but it looks like its about 40,000 miles old. Most of the rubbing is gone now because of how much my front tires are worn down.
But i'm rolling the fenders this weekend and taking off the 5mm spacers so it should be fine after i do that. Rolling the fenders is about $50-75 per fender at a shop, so i recommend buying/renting a machine or just using a baseball bat.
And won't the 500e's wider fenders only work if you have the 500e front bumper also. I don't think they fit with the stock 300e front bumper.
I have 17x8 in the front and they rub on the fenders all the time.
My one front tire is about 8,000 miles old, but it looks like its about 40,000 miles old. Most of the rubbing is gone now because of how much my front tires are worn down.
But i'm rolling the fenders this weekend and taking off the 5mm spacers so it should be fine after i do that. Rolling the fenders is about $50-75 per fender at a shop, so i recommend buying/renting a machine or just using a baseball bat.
And won't the 500e's wider fenders only work if you have the 500e front bumper also. I don't think they fit with the stock 300e front bumper.
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Goodluck haha.
I have 17x8 in the front and they rub on the fenders all the time.
My one front tire is about 8,000 miles old, but it looks like its about 40,000 miles old. Most of the rubbing is gone now because of how much my front tires are worn down.
But i'm rolling the fenders this weekend and taking off the 5mm spacers so it should be fine after i do that. Rolling the fenders is about $50-75 per fender at a shop, so i recommend buying/renting a machine or just using a baseball bat.
And won't the 500e's wider fenders only work if you have the 500e front bumper also. I don't think they fit with the stock 300e front bumper.
I have 17x8 in the front and they rub on the fenders all the time.
My one front tire is about 8,000 miles old, but it looks like its about 40,000 miles old. Most of the rubbing is gone now because of how much my front tires are worn down.
But i'm rolling the fenders this weekend and taking off the 5mm spacers so it should be fine after i do that. Rolling the fenders is about $50-75 per fender at a shop, so i recommend buying/renting a machine or just using a baseball bat.
And won't the 500e's wider fenders only work if you have the 500e front bumper also. I don't think they fit with the stock 300e front bumper.
