E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

Aux Fan infront of Radiator

Old Apr 9, 2004 | 10:32 PM
  #1  
spida's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Sydney, AU
1999 CLK 320 (Fathers); 2005 Jeep Wrangler Renegade (My Beast)
Aux Fan infront of Radiator

Hi there,

im continually having a problem with my car overheating... i.e. hitting 120C and above!!!!!

i dont think my aux fan is kicking in, how can i make it run even at a cold temp??
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:53 PM
  #2  
MB AMG's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,927
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, B.C.
2002 E55 AMG
Stop the car if the temp get's high and wait until you hear a click and a fan spinning. I don't know all the technical details. Oh and BTW, that fan makes a hideous noise when you rev the engine!
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2004 | 11:55 PM
  #3  
spida's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Sydney, AU
1999 CLK 320 (Fathers); 2005 Jeep Wrangler Renegade (My Beast)
the fan doesn't spin at all... ever
maybe a job for an electrican
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:54 AM
  #4  
JoeR's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Norfolk VA
1987 300E
Uhhh, is this problem on your Chevy?

It would help to say what year / model it is.

Anyway, likely problem is the temp switch that kicks the aux fan on when hot.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:56 AM
  #5  
overboostTSI's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
90 300e and B5 S4
I had the same problem on my 1990 300e. THe problem was both fan motors were broken. I don't know what caused it(maybe Chicago winters).

One way to test the fans is to disconnect the thermal switch and see/hear if the front fans kick on. Also check (with the engine cooled down) to see if the fans spin freely.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2004 | 03:18 AM
  #6  
spida's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Sydney, AU
1999 CLK 320 (Fathers); 2005 Jeep Wrangler Renegade (My Beast)
sorry, its a 300E 1987.....

i dont know where the thermal is...
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2004 | 09:28 AM
  #7  
JoeR's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Norfolk VA
1987 300E
Ahhh, '87 300E... I can help now, since I just recently solved overheating problems on mine.

The thermal switch is on the air filter side of the head near the center of the engine next to the valve cover. There will be 3 wires. The two vertical sleeved posts are to the switch. Just jump them (to bypass the switch) with the engine running and the aux fax should run. That will tell you if it's the switch. If not you need to troubleshoot further (likely fan motor or wiring). My switch was bad. Cheap and easy to replace.

Also my viscous clutch was shot. With a cold engine there should be considerable resistance to turning with the engine off. It should couple on startup (it'll be louder) then loosen after startup. Look for oil leakage there. If the seal goes, so goes the fluid and it won't work right. If it's sitting idling where the engine starts getting hot you should also hear it couple. On mine I (very carefully!!) inserted a stick with it running and engine hot and was easily able to stop it. That showed it was bad.

After replacing the switch and clutch it stays cool now.

Also you should check the bearing behind the clutch & fan. It is known not to last long.

Good luck!
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2004 | 02:29 PM
  #8  
Jer's Avatar
Jer
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Middlefield, CT
1994 E320
You do not jump the switch to engage the fan. Just remove the plug from the switch, and the fan should run.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:18 PM
  #9  
spida's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Sydney, AU
1999 CLK 320 (Fathers); 2005 Jeep Wrangler Renegade (My Beast)
Great help guys.... very thorough..

im going to check it out now... thanks for your help
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 04:46 AM
  #10  
bamberger_1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 33
From: Germany
'00 S320 W220, '98 A160 W168/ sold in 2005 '86 260 E W124 '90 260E W124
Re: Aux Fan infront of Radiator

Originally posted by spida
Hi there,

im continually having a problem with my car overheating... i.e. hitting 120C and above!!!!!

i dont think my aux fan is kicking in, how can i make it run even at a cold temp??
If you talking about a 300E with A/C there are two things to keep apart. The fan in front of the radiatior is linked to the A/C system and cools the condensor of the A/C, which is the "radiator" you find in the front, behind this one the "real" radiator for the engine cooling is to be found. The engine cooling is managed by the liquid coupled fan in front of the engine block. If the fluid coupling is shot the fan never reaches full speed. When the car is hot and the engine OFF, you should not be able to spin the fan by hand more than 90 degrees. The fan(s) in the front of the radiator shall come on when the A/C fluid pressure exeeds certain levels. To test you need to jump the pressure switch wire on the top of the dryer bottle. Turn key in ignition (engine not running) pull the wires from the top of the dryer bottle and connect them, and the fan(s) shall operate. If not find the plug for the fan(s) somewhere under the dryer bottle, pull the plug and apply 12V if the fan(s) dont run there are shot. No repair possible just replacement.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 07:50 AM
  #11  
JoeR's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Norfolk VA
1987 300E
The electric fan is a two speed and had two controls to activate.

1. The water temp switch on the head that I previously mentioned will activate the fan on high speed when water temp hits approximately 107 deg. C.

2. When A/C pressure hits 16 bar the fan will activate on low speed.

This is per the factory CD specs, not an opinion.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 08:58 AM
  #12  
bamberger_1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 33
From: Germany
'00 S320 W220, '98 A160 W168/ sold in 2005 '86 260 E W124 '90 260E W124
JoeR, your are right, but I dont know excactly the year MB switched to a "two fan in parallel design" which only are activated by the pressure switch on top of the dryer. It is in the 90' models, but as I said dont when it started.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2004 | 03:39 PM
  #13  
BamaMB's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham AL
1990 300E
My 1990 300E has the two aux fans.. Having some trouble with them. In the past (and I'm just basing this on memory) the left side fan came on when ever the A/C was turned on and the right fan would cycle on and off. I guess the right fan is controled by the head temp switch. One question I have, where are the relay(s) for these fans located?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:03 AM
  #14  
bamberger_1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 33
From: Germany
'00 S320 W220, '98 A160 W168/ sold in 2005 '86 260 E W124 '90 260E W124
Originally posted by BamaMB
My 1990 300E has the two aux fans.. Having some trouble with them. In the past (and I'm just basing this on memory) the left side fan came on when ever the A/C was turned on and the right fan would cycle on and off. I guess the right fan is controled by the head temp switch. One question I have, where are the relay(s) for these fans located?
As far as I know there are no relays-. The fans are switched directly by the pressure switch. I had the fans out in my '90 W124 260E and they both were just of parallel operation and controlled by the pressure switch on top of the dryer bottle. I fyou take out the front fan cover you can follow the wires to find out.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:59 AM
  #15  
Jer's Avatar
Jer
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 595
Likes: 0
From: Middlefield, CT
1994 E320
I believe there is a relay for the aux fan, located in the fuse/relay box. The temp sensor on the head is also used by the climate control.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:07 PM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE