Front camber adjustment
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1993 300CE, 1999 528i
Front camber adjustment
my 300ce is very low, thanks to speedybenz and his custom rear camber arms I was able to bring the rear back up to about .5 degrees of camber,
now my problem is the front, it is adjusted as far out as possible, and I am still at 1.5 degrees of camber in the front,
I am shredding 225/40/ZR 18 rubber pretty quick, and currently when I have to make tight slow speed turns there is this grinding of the tires being to far out of camber, also even with the 1.5 degrees and my front quarter pannels rolled, I am still scraping my passengerside front tire when I take any right hand turns that are not smooth,
so any advise or has anyone made any custom adjustments? I dont want to keep dropping 400+ on a pair of tires every 20k miles
now my problem is the front, it is adjusted as far out as possible, and I am still at 1.5 degrees of camber in the front,
I am shredding 225/40/ZR 18 rubber pretty quick, and currently when I have to make tight slow speed turns there is this grinding of the tires being to far out of camber, also even with the 1.5 degrees and my front quarter pannels rolled, I am still scraping my passengerside front tire when I take any right hand turns that are not smooth,
so any advise or has anyone made any custom adjustments? I dont want to keep dropping 400+ on a pair of tires every 20k miles
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i belive they sell acamber kit for the front im suppose to do that myself since my car is dumped as well, and we by the way have same wheels 
What kind of springs/shocks do you have, and how do you like the ride
What kind of springs/shocks do you have, and how do you like the ride
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I think cap’n jasper gave you good advice. Just raise it a little all the way around. Your car looks GREAT slammed, but it is probably too low to ever get all of the alignment and rubbing issues straightened out. Maybe just one bump more at all four wheels. It would still look good, unless you have become too accustomed to that super cool slammed appearance. 
It is nice to hear that the camber arms had enough adjustability to fix the rear camber, considering how low your car is. Those adjustable arms must be very nice.
I have struggled with some issues, even though my car is just a little more than one inch lower at all four wheels.
It is nice to hear that the camber arms had enough adjustability to fix the rear camber, considering how low your car is. Those adjustable arms must be very nice.
I have struggled with some issues, even though my car is just a little more than one inch lower at all four wheels.
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Originally Posted by vinamg
What is your point of reference? If you are looking at the fender gap the front is supposed to be higher then the rear.
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Originally Posted by AndreNY
i belive they sell acamber kit for the front im suppose to do that myself since my car is dumped as well, and we by the way have same wheels
What kind of springs/shocks do you have, and how do you like the ride
What kind of springs/shocks do you have, and how do you like the ride
Einbach springs and Bilstien shocks
, I love the ride, much tighter and direct than our 300E with just mercedes shocks on it, the 300ce is uber smooth on the highway espically that low, but rough roads and bumby turns are a little hard
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Originally Posted by vinamg
I just looked at your pictures. The front is too low. How was the car lowered? It looks like the front was lowered more then the rear.
I could lift it up a little all the way around, but I went through so much to get it to where it is at now, espically with the rear, I mean I can deal with the way it is now, but the scraping and the tire wear is a little bother some, I just dont feel like dealing with getting everything readjusted
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Originally Posted by ksing44
I think cap’n jasper gave you good advice. Just raise it a little all the way around. Your car looks GREAT slammed, but it is probably too low to ever get all of the alignment and rubbing issues straightened out. Maybe just one bump more at all four wheels. It would still look good, unless you have become too accustomed to that super cool slammed appearance.
It is nice to hear that the camber arms had enough adjustability to fix the rear camber, considering how low your car is. Those adjustable arms must be very nice.
I have struggled with some issues, even though my car is just a little more than one inch lower at all four wheels.
It is nice to hear that the camber arms had enough adjustability to fix the rear camber, considering how low your car is. Those adjustable arms must be very nice.
I have struggled with some issues, even though my car is just a little more than one inch lower at all four wheels.
as you can see this shot it shows the lines of the car look sweet the way they are, but I could come back up a little
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Originally Posted by denim
well from a visual stand point and how the tires are in reference to the wheel weel
From the pictures yours definitely looks like it was lowered more at the front.
If you want to solve your problems I suggest raising the front a little.
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I just had another thought. I was told that you could use additional toe-in to reduce the effects of negative camber. The general idea is that too much toe-in causes tire wear on the outside edge of the tires, so if you use something close to maximum toe-in it should take pressure off the inner edge of the tires. I just did it myself, but I have not had the tires long enough to know if it is making a difference.
I know what you mean about not wanting to deal with getting everything adjusted again. I have had so much trial and error trying to get everything just right.
Right now I have to go and have the caster adjusted to the maximum or a little more to try to re-center my front wheels in the fenders, since my “super special Porsche race tuner mechanic” “fixed” the caster to within normal specifications after the drop and now my little tiny 205/55/16 tires rub a little mounted on my 16” x 7.5” ET37 AMG rims. 
I can’t find anyone that knows anything about the issues that are encountered when a Mercedes is lowered. 
I don’t know how some guys on the forums manage to fit 225/50/16 or 225/45/17 tires without all kinds of rubbing when mounted on ET35 wheels. I am also getting big swaybars and that means there will have to be some more adjusting. I hate the idea of anyone messing with my K-MAC bushings. I am also planning to get the speedybenz camber arms, so I won’t have to worry about the bushings anymore.
Your car does look awesome sitting so low.
I know what you mean about not wanting to deal with getting everything adjusted again. I have had so much trial and error trying to get everything just right.
Right now I have to go and have the caster adjusted to the maximum or a little more to try to re-center my front wheels in the fenders, since my “super special Porsche race tuner mechanic” “fixed” the caster to within normal specifications after the drop and now my little tiny 205/55/16 tires rub a little mounted on my 16” x 7.5” ET37 AMG rims. I can’t find anyone that knows anything about the issues that are encountered when a Mercedes is lowered. I don’t know how some guys on the forums manage to fit 225/50/16 or 225/45/17 tires without all kinds of rubbing when mounted on ET35 wheels. I am also getting big swaybars and that means there will have to be some more adjusting. I hate the idea of anyone messing with my K-MAC bushings. I am also planning to get the speedybenz camber arms, so I won’t have to worry about the bushings anymore.Your car does look awesome sitting so low.
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well I need to find a new front bumper too (start to body kit), I could bring it back up a little if I get a front lower valence,
now what front piece for less than the ridiclous range.....?
now what front piece for less than the ridiclous range.....?
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For front fender rubbing get some AMG fender spacers. That should do the trick. As for your camber you should get new front end bushings.
In my experience Eibachs are great springs but they tend to be a lil soft & mushy.They don't hold up to the new added weight of your lowered car. That can be a cause to your camber issues. I know all you guys out there with Eibachs probably think I don't know what I'm talking about. But look at everybody on here that run Eibach's. They all have some sort of camber issue.
With stiffer springs like H & R and especially Vogtlands you rarely see this problem. My car is dumped front end is about an inch off the ground. No front camber issues what so ever.
~Cali
In my experience Eibachs are great springs but they tend to be a lil soft & mushy.They don't hold up to the new added weight of your lowered car. That can be a cause to your camber issues. I know all you guys out there with Eibachs probably think I don't know what I'm talking about. But look at everybody on here that run Eibach's. They all have some sort of camber issue.
With stiffer springs like H & R and especially Vogtlands you rarely see this problem. My car is dumped front end is about an inch off the ground. No front camber issues what so ever.
~Cali
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Originally Posted by CaliE320
For front fender rubbing get some AMG fender spacers. That should do the trick. As for your camber you should get new front end bushings.
In my experience Eibachs are great springs but they tend to be a lil soft & mushy.They don't hold up to the new added weight of your lowered car. That can be a cause to your camber issues. I know all you guys out there with Eibachs probably think I don't know what I'm talking about. But look at everybody on here that run Eibach's. They all have some sort of camber issue.
With stiffer springs like H & R and especially Vogtlands you rarely see this problem. My car is dumped front end is about an inch off the ground. No front camber issues what so ever.
~Cali
In my experience Eibachs are great springs but they tend to be a lil soft & mushy.They don't hold up to the new added weight of your lowered car. That can be a cause to your camber issues. I know all you guys out there with Eibachs probably think I don't know what I'm talking about. But look at everybody on here that run Eibach's. They all have some sort of camber issue.
With stiffer springs like H & R and especially Vogtlands you rarely see this problem. My car is dumped front end is about an inch off the ground. No front camber issues what so ever.
~Cali
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Originally Posted by denim
hey Cali, where can I find the fender spacers and new bushings?
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Sounds like a nice setup.
20k miles out of a set of 18's really isn;t that bad. generally when you go to that size, you are probably only getting performance tires, which typically last 15k to 25k from my experience.
My previous tires lasted about 22k.
Ashman
20k miles out of a set of 18's really isn;t that bad. generally when you go to that size, you are probably only getting performance tires, which typically last 15k to 25k from my experience.
My previous tires lasted about 22k.
Ashman
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Originally Posted by CaliE320
AMG fender spacers German Ebay, or ask around. I'm getting some from another forum member. Bushings ask Rusty 800 741 5252
~Cali
~Cali
