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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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Bistein B12 vs HR Cup Kit vs other

Hello,
i would like to know, from experience, what is the best suspensions ( cup kit if possible ) to the W210. I don't want coilovers.
Also heard that the Eibach Pro-Kit is a good suspension... i don't know ...

if it was a W201, i would know ... H&R Cup Kit ( pic below, the black car)



Thank you for the help
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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I got H&R with Koni ajustible shocks works great for me.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I assume you're in Europe, so the Eibach's you will get are progressive (spacing) springs which gives you the benefit of comfort at low speeds and performance at high speeds - the US version Eibachs are much harsher I understand. Combined with Bilstein sport/sprint (as they are called in Europe) shocks, much of the original ride comfort is preserved at normal pace and much much better handling.

H&Rs give a much lower stance and are harder than the Eibachs so if your roads are quite bumpy or with lots of potholes or drainage covers, then they're probably not recommended, although handling will also be improved on relatively even road surfaces...then, if the car hops alot on bumpy roads, naturally tire grip, hence handling deteriorates.

KW has an adjustible system, but as with anything adjustible, they'll tend not to be as lasting.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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how many inches do the Eibach springs drop?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Cupkit here and love it..............had eibach before and didn't like the feel to it
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Cuz yours are US Eibachs...they suck...

OT: shorten your sig pic man..its overflowing my 15" screen...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Energie
how many inches do the Eibach springs drop?
Again, it depends if you are in the US or Europe/Asia. Mine (Euro spec car with Euro Eibachs) gave me a drop of about one inch (also Euro spec cars are lower than the US versions). With #1 pads, I now have about 3/4 finger gap between the top of the tire and fender.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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I have H & R springs with Koni Adjustable shocks, MB #2 pads and a K-Mac rear camber kit. Car is nice and stiff, it does not bounce all over the place. 1 finger in the front and 1/2 finger in the rear. I am riding on stock rims right now however I am saving for 19' rims staggered, House payment comes first.

You could also air-bag it.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TruE320Ridah14
I have H & R springs with Koni Adjustable shocks, MB #2 pads and a K-Mac rear camber kit. Car is nice and stiff, it does not bounce all over the place. 1 finger in the front and 1/2 finger in the rear. I am riding on stock rims right now however I am saving for 19' rims staggered, House payment comes first.

You could also air-bag it.

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not that! anything but bags on a 210!
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 03:22 AM
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sorry, i did not mentioned ... i'm from Portugal > Europe.

well, i really don't know ... The Cup Kit from HR will turn the car too stiff won't it? I mean, in my W201 is stiff like hell!!!!!

So i'm going for something with more confort ... but with a nice drop ... 1 to 2 fingers on the front, for wheel gap.

tell me your thoughts
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not that! anything but bags on a 210!
Come on now, bags are not that bad I think it looks pretty good on our cars. Personally I would not do it. I think TopDeez did it.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TruE320Ridah14
Come on now, bags are not that bad I think it looks pretty good on our cars. Personally I would not do it. I think TopDeez did it.
oh yeah... lol sorry TopDeez
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