4matic lowering
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'08 CL600 with 152k km; '01 E430 4Matic with 433k km; '17 Porsche Cayenne with 130k km
I have received contact from Ken at Lorinser USA and they DO have the lowering springs for 4Matic. However, they only have the springs, not the shocks. I asked him about a picture of the springs and if I had to modify the front suspension. Apparently, the front suspension on a Euro-spec 4Matic is different than a US-spec 4Matic; hence, the modification.
For those that aren't familiar with the springs on a 4Matic, I've attached a picture. The front is a little shorter to accomodate the front axle via a bracket. The fact still remains: no shocks for the front. Second picture attached is a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs for 4Matic. The modification comes in when trying to keep the spring perched on that grey platform at the bottom of the spring in between the bracket and spring.
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.
For those that aren't familiar with the springs on a 4Matic, I've attached a picture. The front is a little shorter to accomodate the front axle via a bracket. The fact still remains: no shocks for the front. Second picture attached is a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs for 4Matic. The modification comes in when trying to keep the spring perched on that grey platform at the bottom of the spring in between the bracket and spring.
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.
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.....For those that aren't familiar with the springs on a 4Matic, I've attached a picture. The front is a little shorter to accomodate the front axle via a bracket. The fact still remains: no shocks for the front. Second picture attached is a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs for 4Matic. The modification comes in when trying to keep the spring perched on that grey platform at the bottom of the spring in between the bracket and spring.
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.....
I'm a bit befuddled as to how to resolve this problem. I'll know tomorrow as to whether or not I want to drop the money on this set of springs. Will update as needed.....
spring or what ?
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Well, for one, I'm not sure how the spring in the front comes apart. Is it in two, where the bracket and spring separate, or is it one whole piece? The grey matter in between the spring and the bracket looks like the material holding the two components together. However, since I haven't gotten a chance to lift the car and remove the suspension, I haven't a clue. Any insight.
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a year pass to alldatadiy.com rent or borrow a spring compressor and follow the r/r procedure.I you are only dropping it an 1.25 maybe the shocks will be okay.
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I bought a set of Brabus springs for 4Matics just now off of eBay. I'm thinking that I might have to do some fabricating, as the front springs are open-coil design. I'll post my results when I receive the springs and find the time to put them on the car. Ken @ Lorinser quoted me $899 for a set of springs. Ouch. So I'll take my chances with these Brabus springs. At least they're less than half the price.
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First off...
I'd like to apologize that was anyone on here trying to buy those. Second of all, yes, it was hard to not bid. Once I saw that auction, I thought, "let me see all of the details of lowering a 4Matic." Once I got the information that I needed, I pulled the trigger.
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nah, you did fine. had you attempted to bid traditionally, you would have simply
triggered a bidding war and you would have jacked up the price of the springs.
as is, you got them for a great price. congrats
triggered a bidding war and you would have jacked up the price of the springs.
as is, you got them for a great price. congrats
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Well, for one, I'm not sure how the spring in the front comes apart. Is it in two, where the bracket and spring separate, or is it one whole piece? The grey matter in between the spring and the bracket looks like the material holding the two components together. However, since I haven't gotten a chance to lift the car and remove the suspension, I haven't a clue. Any insight.
....the removal of the spring will be done not by the MB pancake style spring
compressor, but the more traditional looking 'hook' unit. they gray looking
spacer at the bottom of the spring is most likely a spring pad of sorts but
I'm intrigued as i've not been able to locate this in the parts diagrams.
Klann/clone aka pancake...
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6g3me74
strut/hook style spring compressor...
http://www.noahlh.com/car/coilover_howto/img/21.jpg
you may even need an additional tool as the top of the spring will have a
plate or some such which positions and locks it to the top of the shock.
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Latest news regarding Lorinser...
I finally got word back from Ken @ Lorinser USA, and he sent me a picture of the lowering springs. Apparently, the Brabus springs that I recently bought are for 2WD models 
If you'll notice, the front springs are open-coil design; the Lorinser's are closed-coil, the correct design. No biggie, so now I will have a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs up for sale soon ($300 plus shipping). Anyone interested? Here's the picture of the Lorinsers.
If you'll notice, the front springs are open-coil design; the Lorinser's are closed-coil, the correct design. No biggie, so now I will have a set of Brabus 30mm lowering springs up for sale soon ($300 plus shipping). Anyone interested? Here's the picture of the Lorinsers.
Last edited by ghaffar23; Apr 4, 2008 at 05:28 PM.
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ack...that's too bad. you were progressing towards your goal and one of the
tough parts was proper springs. thought you had this challenging piece solved.
i'll have to read up on what "open" vs "closed" coil mean.
tough parts was proper springs. thought you had this challenging piece solved.
i'll have to read up on what "open" vs "closed" coil mean.
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From what I could observe, the closed-coil on the bottom allows for the spring to sit flush on top of the bracket. If the coils are open-ended, there would have to be a retainer fabricated to keep the springs from slipping down the bracket.
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Ken @ Lorinser USA
Ken @ Lorinser USA has several sets of these springs available if any of you guys want a set. I told him that several members here on the forum were interested in buying a set for their 4Matic W210's.
Price: $899/set
Drop: 30mm
Anyone else interested? You could contact him directly @ 323-302-9201 or <ken@lorinser.us> via email.
Price: $899/set
Drop: 30mm
Anyone else interested? You could contact him directly @ 323-302-9201 or <ken@lorinser.us> via email.
Last edited by ghaffar23; Apr 8, 2008 at 04:28 PM.
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this is kind of off topic from the rest of the thread but does anyone make lowering springs for the w210 4matic wagon?
Loi
edit: definitely didn't check the time stamp to see this thread is almost a year old...lol
Loi
edit: definitely didn't check the time stamp to see this thread is almost a year old...lol
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