ralittle2

I've got a 98 e320 with about 60k on it. The car was purchased new by my mother. I've had no symptoms of transmission trouble, but just lost a tranny in my Honda minivan at 100k.

Your opinion please.

Thx,

RAL

uberwgn

Qualified opinion says Yes

ohlord

Yes
now sooner than later
diy
http://www.mercedesshop.com/Wikka/Trans7226Fluid
you have a drain plug on your torque converter so almost all the old trans fluid can be drained.Diy or find an indie shop that knows what they are doing.
MB fluid only and new filter

fju2112

ohlord - is there a good online source for mb fluid and differential mb fluid? doing both of these soon, having my indie do it but would rather supply them with as many parts as possible, in particular fluid as i only want mb stuff used.

ohlord

which i think is tied into fastlane or something.
Any good synthetic 75w90 gear oil for the dif.
also check autohausaz.com for the mb fluid and recent changes have brought up the new mb fluid as an approved fluid at a far lower price then the old approved fluid.
ohlord

ralittle2

Thanks. I may not have time to do this myself. Can anyone recommend a competent mechanic in Atlanta?

ohlord

several members down there and also a few from Atlanta on benzworld.org w210 section so post a shout out.

ralittle2

Thanks,

Raffy

Hi there, I just got a 1996 E230 with 50,000 Kms on it. (my first MB) I had an independent workshop change the transmission oil and the filter but after a week, I noticed that when I set off my driveway in the morning, the transmission "dribbles" and the car just inches along with a clunking sound. However when I put it in "2" then manages to move forward. What is strange however is that after a few minutes (presumably after it has warmed up) everything goes back to normal. I live in Manila where it is warm. Is it "normal" for MB's to be warmed up first? or is this related to the tranmission oil change? or heaven forbid something else in my transmission? Thank you sir.

Untertürkheim

Are you sure they used the correct fluid, and enough of it?

ohlord

they did something wrong,so as above maybe they installed the filter wrong or wrong fluid level or wrong fluid.
take it back.
ohlord

124-Fan

The 1996 model, being the first year of w210 production had both the newer 600 class 5 speed transmission installed as well as the old one, 722.4## class 4 speed. (4 cyl. cars) -722.3## in 6 cyl. cars.

The old 722 class transmissions don´t incorporate any electronics, so to speak, whereas the newer ones do. So, if you have the old transmission installed there can be no limp home mode. But if you have the later 600 class 5 speed transmission installed, your problem sounds familiar..

After severe codepulling and repeated replacing of fluid, filter and electrics kit in the valve body, I realised that the culprit is actually a small control unit located under your gearshift lever, which you can see in the picture. And when it fails, there can either be no codes or all kinds of codes or whatever..

But if you have the old transmission ( 722.4## ), your problem just sounds like a bad valve body or a broken down governor.

And btw, replacing of fluid and filter in any transmission is essential in my opinion. There is no such thing as life time oil or whatsoever..

-But perhaps they just screwed something up.. - anything is possible..

Cheers,

Raffy

thanks for the heads up guys. I do have a 4 cyl car and the old 722.4## tranny. I'm beginning to suspect that it may be the quantity of the oil. I observed that the mechanic filled it up with approximately 7 liters, warmed it up, took it around the block and spent time looking at the dipstick repeatedly. He then drained away some oil mentioning something about the operating temperature affecting the level. I will definitely take it back and if the correct level does not fix it then I will focus on the part that 124-Fan mentioned. Thank you very much.

siaconis

That website says C class, am I to assume its the same method of draining for my 97 E 320? It shifts very hard when its cold for the first few miles, gets a lot better after that. Car has 75k miles on it, I have no idea if the first owner ever drained it.

230TErry

Probably a stupid question but should I do this on my E430.

111K miles, last documented service at 88K (by M B).

I'm doing the engine oil this weekend.

nsupra

Can you or anyone recommend a gear oil for the diff. I am gonna do this next oil change. Does mercedes not sell there OEM stuff?

KGT1965

this past weekend without a hitch. New filter, pan gasket, plug gasket, magnet, etc. Used an infrared thermometer on the pan (measured hot temp for reference before starting). Borrowed a mechanic friend's dipstick. As for fluid, purchased the Mopar ATF+4 at Walmart for $4.65 a quart. Having done many domestic auto trans servicings over the years, I found the Benz 722.6 trans a snap to work on. Very well engineered and easily servicable. No leaks and the trans shifts flawlessly. By the way, my vehicle is 2000 E320 with 87K miles. The old fluid was in fair condition and I had no problems before changing the fluid. I am a believer of changing all vehicle fluids every 2 years (radiator coolant, brake fluid, trans fluid, rear diff. etc.). The oil & filter is changed every 5000 miles using Mobil 0W-40 and a Mann fleece filter cartridge. With preventive maintenance I expect this car to last a long time.

ohlord

your fingers mopar atf is not mb spec and you are playing russian roulette with a 2600 buck trans.
always use mb 722.6 fluid or the new 722.9 7 speed fluid.
I wish you well,but for the difference in price times 4 quarts of fluid why cheap out?With proper fluid I expect your car to last along time also,however without a torque converter drain plug on your model and only changing 4 quarts and mixing non spec fluid with the proper spec fluid,I don't see a long and happy life for your 722.6 transmission.
You could go with the fss interval on the oil changes with no worries mobil 1 0w40 will easily go the 10-11k miles and used the savings to buy the correct trans fluid
live and learn
ohlord

jbenz99

i am going to change the transmission fluid on my 99 e320 with 99,000 miles
on it.ok where can i get the transmission fluids and what kind of fluid and how much can i add.can anybody help me out please the dealer want $25.00 per qt!there must be a auto retail store that caries tranny fluid for alot less for my car i hope!please help me out!

ohlord

calm down
I have the special dipstick for $40 delivered.You can get the mb spec fluid $15 qt. online from one of the suppliers and all the other gasket filter cap lock online also.When you are well read up on the procedure diy on www.mercedesshop.com
diy section send me a pm and I will give you some tips.Borrow a lift if you can.
ohlord
it's also time for spark plugs and I have the special 17mm spark plug boot tool that is a must to ease the job and save your wires and hands.$28 delivered.with tips to get it done.

KGT1965

whether the Mopar ATF+4 trans fluid is compatible with the 722.6 trans. This trans is the same trans used in the Chrysler Crossfire and 300C hemi. I discussed this matter with a close friend who is a Chrysler service manager and very familiar with Chrysler and MB vehicles. He has done both vehicles with the same fluid and has had no complications. The fluid container even states that the fluid is for Daimler-Chrysler "sealed for life" transmissions. I feel comfortable with my action.

ohlord

and the fluid is different.
valvoline makes syn atf 4 do a search when asked they tell people it is not compatible with mb fluid and since atf4 is backward compatible with atf3 and atf3 and atf 4 have shown to have different shear specs then mb fluid and have shown to be damaging to seals and gaskets in the mb trans.
You can disagree if you care to.You did not drain your tq converter so you changed out about 4.5 qts correct at 5v.s.15 bucks you saved a whole 50 dollars if you did have a conv drain plug and got the whole 9 you saved 90 bucks.
sleep well my friend
and I will be sure to tell everyone if they need help or advice about a mercedes to go ask a friend that is a chrysler mechanic

dylokjai

so it is safe to change motor oil every 10k? reason asking is i drive 100miles daily 5 days a week to and from work thats 2k a month. that would save me some $$$..

ohlord

use mobil 1 0w40 syn and fleece filters ,mobil 1 can go way more then 10k so 10-11 k per the fss alert is fine.
oil at walmart at times or napa sometimes has buck off coupons.
reset the fss when done with the oil change.
You do all your own changes don't you?Easy diy with the suction method out the dipstick tube
ohlord

dylokjai

Yes i try to do all DIY's on my e430 sport just to save from the stealers.
I was just asking cause i dont want to damage anything. So i guess i'll change oil at 10k. THANKS OHLORD!!!!