Will this staggered combination fit?
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1991 SC Miata, 1999 W210 Estate Wagon, 2014 W212 Sport Wagon
Will this staggered combination fit?
I'd like to buy this set of rims with this spec:
Size: 19x8.5(front) 19x9.5(rear)
Bolt Pattern: 5x112, 5x114.3
Offset: +35mm
Finish: Silver with Machined Lip
Tire Package Price: two 235/35/19(front) tires and two 245/35/19(rear) tires
The buyer says that the rear might rub. The tire sizes on Tire Rack (which suggests wider, fatter tires) say otherwise.
Does anyone know?
Size: 19x8.5(front) 19x9.5(rear)
Bolt Pattern: 5x112, 5x114.3
Offset: +35mm
Finish: Silver with Machined Lip
Tire Package Price: two 235/35/19(front) tires and two 245/35/19(rear) tires
The buyer says that the rear might rub. The tire sizes on Tire Rack (which suggests wider, fatter tires) say otherwise.
Does anyone know?
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it will work.
i would suggest that you fit 265/30/19 at the rear. that way you maintain the rollout and your abs, speedcruise etc will still work.
i would suggest that you fit 265/30/19 at the rear. that way you maintain the rollout and your abs, speedcruise etc will still work.
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Are you prepared for the lack of ride quality?
Are you prepared to drop it so it wont look silly? springs,shocks,pads.
Are you prepared to spend the money on the camber bolts and links required to get it into alignment so you track properly and your tires last more then 10k miles.
for proper tire size
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...?action=submit
You don't state what wheels these are off of,are they new ,used?
two different height tires front and rear and 10mm width difference is hardly what we call staggered.
Have you checked with Luke at tirerack for 18in fitments?Which are more appropriate for your ride will handle better and look more balanced.
ohlord
Are you prepared for the lack of ride quality?
Are you prepared to drop it so it wont look silly? springs,shocks,pads.
Are you prepared to spend the money on the camber bolts and links required to get it into alignment so you track properly and your tires last more then 10k miles.
for proper tire size
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...?action=submit
You don't state what wheels these are off of,are they new ,used?
two different height tires front and rear and 10mm width difference is hardly what we call staggered.
Have you checked with Luke at tirerack for 18in fitments?Which are more appropriate for your ride will handle better and look more balanced.
ohlord
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Oh Dear Lord,
Good points... heheh. Actually, the car is already lowered and aligned. The tire difference is such because of the cheap pricing (the vendor says $900 for everything) so I really get what I pay for. Increasing tract of the rear tires will cost me significantly more.
I'm having second thoughts about staggered, 19 inch wheels after reading other threads.
Thanks for all the advice.
Amen.
Good points... heheh. Actually, the car is already lowered and aligned. The tire difference is such because of the cheap pricing (the vendor says $900 for everything) so I really get what I pay for. Increasing tract of the rear tires will cost me significantly more.
I'm having second thoughts about staggered, 19 inch wheels after reading other threads.
Thanks for all the advice.
Amen.
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Anyway, here' what I think I'm going to get. Can anyone tell me about issues with fitment?
Size: 18x8
Bolt Pattern: 5x112
Offset: +32mm
Finish: Black with Polished Lip
Tire Package: four 225/40/18 tires
Tirerack says 235/40/18... but again, this wheel package is cheap ($800 out the door).
Size: 18x8
Bolt Pattern: 5x112
Offset: +32mm
Finish: Black with Polished Lip
Tire Package: four 225/40/18 tires
Tirerack says 235/40/18... but again, this wheel package is cheap ($800 out the door).
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should be fine. if you're not obsessive about getting that perfect, aggressive
look with fat rubber, you're not likely to encounter clearance problems with
that set up. which model/year?
look with fat rubber, you're not likely to encounter clearance problems with
that set up. which model/year?
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Thanks, Ray. It's a 99 Wagon. Actually, I was just going to buy the OEM size but then stumbled upon this incredible deal.
Hope it looks good... I'll post pictures once I get them.
Hope it looks good... I'll post pictures once I get them.
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Close either way
the 235 would be 3revs per mile fewer and the 225 will be 7 over and with that offset it should fill out the wheel wells pretty well.
By the way I am working on a new way to drop the rear suspension of the self leveling wagon without the need to change the shocks or the power steering so wait a bit and i will have it figured out,then all you need is sport springs and shocks on the front to have the nice dropped look.
ohlord
What tires on the incredible deal?they all are not created equal and some deals that look incredible end up being not so
By the way I am working on a new way to drop the rear suspension of the self leveling wagon without the need to change the shocks or the power steering so wait a bit and i will have it figured out,then all you need is sport springs and shocks on the front to have the nice dropped look.
ohlord
What tires on the incredible deal?they all are not created equal and some deals that look incredible end up being not so
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Oh Lord, I installed H&R sport springs on all 4 corners (the front installation was a pain, while the rear springs I can do sleeping). I also had to go with the thinnest spring pads on the rears. Even with this mod and the self-leveling adjustment, there is still a very slight pitch in front to back height (the front is still lower by 1/4 inch in terms of lowering delta).
I think the tires are Nexen or something like that. I don't think they'll last more than a year, I bet. The rims I'm not too thrilled with, since I was hoping to go mesh rather than a star pattern.
I think the tires are Nexen or something like that. I don't think they'll last more than a year, I bet. The rims I'm not too thrilled with, since I was hoping to go mesh rather than a star pattern.
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Well, I got em. I ended up getting the larger 235/40/18 tires for an additional $30 (net). Unfortunately, the OEM lugs were too long and now I have to buy a shorter set of lugs... I was sooo stoked too. The rims were better than I expected for the price, and the footprint of the tires were wide enough for my taste. I'll post pics when I finally install them.
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They're on now. Actually looks better than I expected. It does fill out nicely, so I didn't need staggered or 19 inch after all. Thanks guys. I will post pictures when I get home.
BTW, I bought cone seat lug bolts after searching frantically for ball seat types. It didn't occur to me that the aftermarket ones would be conical... dufus. Then when I finally installed the first set, the bolts were still too long and was barely rubbing something. After removing three threads using my trusty angle grinder, it all works now.
BTW, I bought cone seat lug bolts after searching frantically for ball seat types. It didn't occur to me that the aftermarket ones would be conical... dufus. Then when I finally installed the first set, the bolts were still too long and was barely rubbing something. After removing three threads using my trusty angle grinder, it all works now.
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nicely
done
now just get some meguires tire gel and finish off the bold new look.
it looks great.Diy to polish those headlight lenses on benzworld.org and install 4 H7 65 watt rally bulbs from
www.danielsternlighting.com and you will be the bomb.
ohlord
now just get some meguires tire gel and finish off the bold new look.it looks great.Diy to polish those headlight lenses on benzworld.org and install 4 H7 65 watt rally bulbs from
www.danielsternlighting.com and you will be the bomb.
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So, I've driven this size tire for 1200 miles (from SF to LV and back). Here are my impressions:
* the Strata Zeno tires that come with the package appear to have fairly soft side walls. The cornering feels a bit mushy considering its a lower profile from OEM. However, I don' t think the wagon will see any track events so it's not that big a deal. The tires did look very good... its tread pattern mimicking the more popular Yokohama tires (like the AD07 on my Miata)
* the overall ride did not suffer at all with the increase in wheel diameter. I had a full car during the trip and the ride was surprisingly pleasant.
* the front tires rub when going over a bump and with some steering angle. The tires hit only the lower front fender lip, but I'll obviously have to roll it.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the purchase. I don't think you can beat $800 and get a nice tire/rim combination.
BTW, I didn't want to get black rims initially, but once they were on, I was shocked at how nice it turned out. The black quarter panels actually go well with the wheels. Sometimes you get lucky.
* the Strata Zeno tires that come with the package appear to have fairly soft side walls. The cornering feels a bit mushy considering its a lower profile from OEM. However, I don' t think the wagon will see any track events so it's not that big a deal. The tires did look very good... its tread pattern mimicking the more popular Yokohama tires (like the AD07 on my Miata)
* the overall ride did not suffer at all with the increase in wheel diameter. I had a full car during the trip and the ride was surprisingly pleasant.
* the front tires rub when going over a bump and with some steering angle. The tires hit only the lower front fender lip, but I'll obviously have to roll it.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the purchase. I don't think you can beat $800 and get a nice tire/rim combination.
BTW, I didn't want to get black rims initially, but once they were on, I was shocked at how nice it turned out. The black quarter panels actually go well with the wheels. Sometimes you get lucky.
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Thanks for the comment, Oh Lord. I tried to plastic polish the headlamps via the Tap Plastic special but it didn't work. I'll search for your suggestion on the other forum.
I looked at those H7s btw and they're expensive... hehehe.
I looked at those H7s btw and they're expensive... hehehe.
looks good. You should look into getting your side skirts painted to match the rest of the car. 35% tint would go great with you mean lookin wagon lol.
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Thanks. I know what you mean about getting the lower black quarter panels/bumper painted to match the car color (I actually saw one done a couple of months ago). But since the black faced rims, it actually blends well. Maybe someone can Photoshop the pics to convince me otherwise.
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just did a quick color change. not good manipulating, but you can in a way see the difference. I think it looks lower and newer with silver. 
The wheels looks really nice
The wheels looks really nice
