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Old 08-04-2008, 09:56 AM
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Eibach Spring (PRO-Kit)

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members in this formus I have a question did any body tray to put spring from Eibach company for mercedes benz E 320 or E 430 model 1998??

that because I went to buy it ,,but I went to know from any body tray it,,
if its good or no
and the price for this spring

thats it

I wait for the answer
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I don't have any experience with it but if you do a search in this forum I know there's several people who have done it.
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I have H&R lowering springs on my E430. There are people on this forum with the Eibachs. I think the Eibachs give a softer ride then the H&R but I do not have personal experience with the Eibachs. I'm sure someone else will chime in.
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Eibach Springs on a '02 E320 Sport

For what it's worth, I put a set of Eibach Springs on my 2002 E320 Sport last year. I bought them on line through AutoEverything.com.

The springs dropped the car about 1 1/2" down from stock. The real key with the spring replacement is determining what spring pads you have in right now, and what you'll need to make it sit right once installed.
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Eibach springs for E200

hi,
i really have no idea with H&R springs but i serched the net and end up bying Eibach springs last week i put them into the car, the only difference what i think between H&R and Eibach is that, with Eibach u get quality drive as compare to stock but is compare to less lower than H&R, i used eibach and #1 pads al arround. i noticed that i have 1 inch drop front and rear, as for rear its perfect for me but im not as happy from the front but people says here springs take time to get setteled i hope they do coz i still need 1 inch more drop from front, but i think few other people have different opinions they might have the perfect drop with eibach it totally depends on u that how much u wanna to drop ur ride or ur concern with quality ride + a little drop as well its totally upto u. ny way they cost me arround 245 euros with shipment.
here are few pics beffore and after Eibach the brighter ones are beffore springs darker ones are after Eibach springs with #1 pads all arround
couldnt upload pics beffore the pad so heres one after the Eibach springs
best of luck with ur ride
Attached Thumbnails Eibach Spring (PRO-Kit)-dsc02267.jpg  

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Hello every body
Thanks for all,,,realy I got good benift from you youths

Mr. suicidal4life can you give me the web for H&R company
also Mr.SteveM if you can put for us some picture for your car (beffor
& after)



gooode luck every body
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300E a couple 1994 w124wagon E320 Wagon/,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross ,2000 E320 wagon.
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or look up eibach.
they will take at least 6 months to settle to ride height and then you will need to have it aligned.
Cold cut saw 1/2 coil from each spring,save yourself the moneyit will only increase spring weight 10% and you won't need to wait to have it aligned.
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I have Eibach, and I like them!
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Originally Posted by ohlord
or look up eibach.
they will take at least 6 months to settle to ride height and then you will need to have it aligned.
Cold cut saw 1/2 coil from each spring,save yourself the moneyit will only increase spring weight 10% and you won't need to wait to have it aligned.
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hi ohlord

thankz for ur info, so u mean they will drop more after few miles. have u used eibach springs? is it possible to show us ur ride pics,and can u explain what u have mentioned above in detail please, coz mine is still not lthat much lowered from front
thankz again

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Hello

I thank you all for the answers


but Mr. ohlord I dont understand what you mean
you mean the eibach spring not drop the car as what I need ,, so then I need to cut it or what
if you can explain to us more
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Originally Posted by legendary65
hi ohlord

thankz for ur info, so u mean they will drop more after few miles.
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Eibach says only minimal settling will occur as the spring mates to its rubber pad. See FQ # 8 at:
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe...66411300023284

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Hello youths ,,
youths just I went to make sure this part# 2557.140 is for E320 Model 1998
or ther is another???? (before I buy)
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I have the Eibach Pro Kit on my 430, springs and shocks.

I replaced my stock setup at 110k miles and it was well worth it. All the nose dive while braking is gone, all that body roll around corners is gone and my car initially dropped 1 inch, Its been a couple months and a few thousand miles now and its settled at about 1.5 inch drop.

The ride quality is nice and soft at normal speeds, but you will feel big bumps a bit more, over all feel and handling is much improved. I'm very happy I did it.

I bought this

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...780&perfCode=S

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mg- which shocks are you using with the Eibachts?
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Originally Posted by raymond g-
mg- which shocks are you using with the Eibachts?

Ray, the Eibach Pro-kits comes with springs and shocks. Both are made by Eibach. I am running the same setup and love it.

Aside from this, does any of you realize that the turning radius gained after lowering? I hope I am not imagining. Let's say on a 3 lane road, for me to make a U-turn, it takes 2.5 lanes. It definitely feels like a bus when I make U-turns
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Originally Posted by blueC230K
Aside from this, does any of you realize that the turning radius gained after lowering? I hope I am not imagining. Let's say on a 3 lane road, for me to make a U-turn, it takes 2.5 lanes. It definitely feels like a bus when I make U-turns
I don't think lowering affects turning radius. or does it?
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Originally Posted by rban320
Hello every body
Thanks for all,,,realy I got good benift from you youths

Mr. suicidal4life can you give me the web for H&R company
also Mr.SteveM if you can put for us some picture for your car (beffor
& after)



gooode luck every body
H&R's official site is http://www.hrsprings.com/ but I purchased my H&R springs from tirerack.com After I installed the springs I took a 10 mile drive and then measured the wheel arch heights. It settled about 1/2" more over the next couple of weeks and that was all. I don't have any before pics but here is an after pic.

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=kdw2

I think it is about 25 1/4" from the ground to the top of the wheelwell.
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Originally Posted by blueC230K
Ray, the Eibach Pro-kits comes with springs and shocks. Both are made by Eibach. I am running the same setup and love it.
The Pro-kit should be just springs and the Pro-System is the spring and shocks, right? I'm sure the box my springs came in said "Pro-kit"...but that was a few years ago...
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hi guys

sorry to bother u again, i hope i ll get the answer from you gys as always. i put eibach pro spring kit and its 2 weeks i have driven arround 100 miles but still seems to get the gap between front tyre and fender easily two fingers gap. what i wanna to no from all u genious people that should i need to put shocks as well to bring her down more. if yes so kindly refer me wich one will be the best to lower the gap konni or billistin. or does shoch make no effect on lowering the car. theres one more thing i have already changed ma rear shocks and put new stock shock. i was reading on some forums that billlistin
sport rear shocks are as the same height as stock only the front one are smaller one. is that right did any body noticed that while comparing them together, if its right so i think ill change the fron one only and is there ny way u can change shocks ur self thnkz guys hope to get feed back from u.ill be waiting for ur replys dude.

thnkz best regards to all MB owners
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Did you get the right ones for the E200? Springs for larger engines will be too stiff for yours (although E240 or similar engines with the same engine block (hence weight?) might share the same springs).

Where u at with an E200?

Shocks does little if any, to the ride height but its best to use shorter shocks for lowering springs to allow travel.

Edit: Ok, so its an Elegance, probably better to change your longer, softer shocks anyway.

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Originally Posted by Whitey
Did you get the right ones for the E200? Springs for larger engines will be too stiff for yours (although E240 or similar engines with the same engine block (hence weight?) might share the same springs).

Where u at with an E200?

Shocks does little if any, to the ride height but its best to use shorter shocks for lowering springs to allow travel.

Edit: Ok, so its an Elegance, probably better to change your longer, softer shocks anyway.
hi Whitey
first thanks to ur swift and fast reply i wast expecting it that quick,,i think yea i got them from http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oweringsprings

and rang them as well about the engine size and modell.
ya its an elegance the problem is elegance is already too high as compare to avantgarde she was kind of offrider beffore, so u say i have to change the shocks too isnt it? to bring her more lower coz elegance have longer shocks?

thnkz regards to all MB owners drive safe

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Originally Posted by legendary65
hi Whitey
first thanks to ur swift and fast reply i wast expecting it that quick,,i think yea i got them from http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oweringsprings

and rang them as well about the engine size and modell.
ya its an elegance the problem is elegance is already too high as compare to avantgarde so u recoment to change the shocks too ist it?

thnkz regards to all MB owners drive safe
Go with Bilstein Sport (Sprint in Europe) shocks. Use No.1 size spring pads all round if you want it noticeably lower, the shocks only help the system's performance and not lower it by much.
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Sounds like you have the basic springs which provide 1.25". drop.

It's not the mileage but the terrain which helps to work the springs into their
'permanent' ride height. If your 100 miles is on smooth pavement, it will take
longer to condition the springs...say, versus riding on uneven or poorer
surfaces.

Shocks will help very little in lowering the ride height. Understand that it only
takes something in the neighborhood of 100 pounds (45 kg) to get the shock
to compress. The main purpose of the shock is to provide dynamic dampening
upon compression as well as upon rebound strokes. It's designed to moderate
undulations at various speeds, weight, and velocity, depending on manufacturing
specifications.

-OEM shocks are long and moderately damped.
-Bilstein HD shocks are same length as OEM, but supposidly 10% more firm.
-Bilstein SP shocks 1" shorter than OEM/HD but share same dampening
characteristics as HD (though same piston travel as HD). The SP(ort)
shocks are of the same length in both front and rear.
-Koni yellow body adjustable is scootch firmer than OEM dampening at setting
#1, about (my guess) 4% firmer than OEM in setting #2, and not as firm as
HD on setting #3 (ie roughly 7% firmer than OEM).
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hi ray my man how u doin there, thankz whitey for ur reply,i already used number one pad all arround as i new that she is a offroader, ok so ray you recomend to wait more and do more extra miles, i have use that brake technique as well to adjust the springs but results are very little
so shall i wait?
and theres one more thing i noticed that one side is more lower than another or may be i need to check my eyes but really i found that uneven drop as well or may be it ll settle even after few or i say many more miles

thankz regards to all MB owners drive safe


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