2000 cluster upgrade
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2000 cluster upgrade
Hi all,
I have a 97 e420 sport. I want to upgrade to the 2000 cluster, so i bought one. I then noticed that it has only 3 bottons on the cluster. One for reset and the other two for up and down. The cluster that comes with my car has buttons to set the time. If install the new cluster, how will l set the time. I dont have the 2000 steering wheel with buttons, so what other functions will I not be able to access on the new cluster? Thanks
I have a 97 e420 sport. I want to upgrade to the 2000 cluster, so i bought one. I then noticed that it has only 3 bottons on the cluster. One for reset and the other two for up and down. The cluster that comes with my car has buttons to set the time. If install the new cluster, how will l set the time. I dont have the 2000 steering wheel with buttons, so what other functions will I not be able to access on the new cluster? Thanks
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You need to upgrade the steering wheel as well otherwise you cannot scroll through the clustermenu's. The time is set from the steering wheel buttons.
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Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by stizo
Hi all,
I have a 97 e420 sport. I want to upgrade to the 2000 cluster, so i bought one. I then noticed that it has only 3 bottons on the cluster. One for reset and the other two for up and down. The cluster that comes with my car has buttons to set the time. If install the new cluster, how will l set the time. I dont have the 2000 steering wheel with buttons, so what other functions will I not be able to access on the new cluster? Thanks
Hi all,
I have a 97 e420 sport. I want to upgrade to the 2000 cluster, so i bought one. I then noticed that it has only 3 bottons on the cluster. One for reset and the other two for up and down. The cluster that comes with my car has buttons to set the time. If install the new cluster, how will l set the time. I dont have the 2000 steering wheel with buttons, so what other functions will I not be able to access on the new cluster? Thanks
However, having run a cluster like that without the steering wheel buttons for a long time in one of my cars, I can give you two ways to set the time:
1) Get a COMAND installed, then the time will be set via satellite
2) Plug the cluster in at 12:00 noon (after being unplugged for at least 10 minutes). Then the clock will start from a hard reset.
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Re: Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by scorchie
Plug the cluster in at 12:00 noon (after being unplugged for at least 10 minutes). Then the clock will start from a hard reset.
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Plug the cluster in at 12:00 noon (after being unplugged for at least 10 minutes). Then the clock will start from a hard reset.
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Thanks...
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Re: Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by scorchie
1) Get a COMAND installed, then the time will be set via satellite
1) Get a COMAND installed, then the time will be set via satellite
MY 00+ clusters display 1 malfunction as soon as the car is started...those clusters have a display error in the older cars...
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I put a 2000 cluster in mine. It would not warn me that my key was still in the ignition when I opened the door. I was concerned about what else it would not do. Plus it gets no input from the transmission so the shift position is not displayed. Just a solid box comes up next to the time.
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Re: Re: Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by MBenzNL
Which only works after the navigation screen in the IC has been activated...
MY 00+ clusters display 1 malfunction as soon as the car is started...those clusters have a display error in the older cars...
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Which only works after the navigation screen in the IC has been activated...
MY 00+ clusters display 1 malfunction as soon as the car is started...those clusters have a display error in the older cars...
greetingz,
If I'm reading your post correctly, those are MY01+ clusters... MY00 will work (that's 6/99-6/00 for you Euro types... heh heh)
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Re: Re: Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by jimmydagreek
Hey scorchie, I have an opportunity to obtain a MY00+ AMG cluster and other than the clock setting which we can work around as you have suggested and the other functions that need to be accessed by the steering wheel controls, will the cluster still function as normal including the speedo, odo, miles, etc?
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Hey scorchie, I have an opportunity to obtain a MY00+ AMG cluster and other than the clock setting which we can work around as you have suggested and the other functions that need to be accessed by the steering wheel controls, will the cluster still function as normal including the speedo, odo, miles, etc?
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Otherwise, the cluster will work normally as long as it has been version coded for your car. This is because the tach, speedo, fuel gauge, etc. have various settings for different cars. My cluster works all wrong right now because last time I version coded it, I made some incorrect settings... I'll fix it this weekend.
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Originally posted by E-Klasse
Where do you find the date code to tell if a cluster is a 2000 or a 2001+ ?
Mine has a small mold stamp that says that it was made in 7/99.
Where do you find the date code to tell if a cluster is a 2000 or a 2001+ ?
Mine has a small mold stamp that says that it was made in 7/99.
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Originally posted by E-Klasse
I put a 2000 cluster in mine. It would not warn me that my key was still in the ignition when I opened the door. I was concerned about what else it would not do. Plus it gets no input from the transmission so the shift position is not displayed. Just a solid box comes up next to the time.
I put a 2000 cluster in mine. It would not warn me that my key was still in the ignition when I opened the door. I was concerned about what else it would not do. Plus it gets no input from the transmission so the shift position is not displayed. Just a solid box comes up next to the time.
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Originally posted by scorchie
It would actually be by part number application, because replacement parts for older cars can be made at any time.
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It would actually be by part number application, because replacement parts for older cars can be made at any time.
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The part number on it is A 210 540 59 48
On the same sticker is says 08. 07. 99. Is that a date code because it matches the mold stamp of 7/99.
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Originally posted by E-Klasse
So how could I tell if a cluster is a 2000 or a 2001+?
The part number on it is A 210 540 59 48
On the same sticker is says 08. 07. 99. Is that a date code because it matches the mold stamp of 7/99.
So how could I tell if a cluster is a 2000 or a 2001+?
The part number on it is A 210 540 59 48
On the same sticker is says 08. 07. 99. Is that a date code because it matches the mold stamp of 7/99.
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Originally posted by scorchie
You can tell if a cluster is a 2000 or 2001 or whatever year by part number application.
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You can tell if a cluster is a 2000 or 2001 or whatever year by part number application.
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How does one find that out? What part number goes in a 2000 vs a 2001?
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What is the part number on the cluster that you have available?
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I just spoke to my local MB dealer (parts department) about my cluster. I gave him my part number 210 540 18 11 and he punched it in. He said that it showed him, what product/part that it was but nothing else. He could not tell what year cluster it is or what year car it came out of. I then asked him if the other number on the same sticker would help and I read it to him but no luck there. So end of story. Any ideas? 
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Originally posted by stizo
I just spoke to my local MB dealer (parts department) about my cluster. I gave him my part number 210 540 18 11 and he punched it in. He said that it showed him, what product/part that it was but nothing else. He could not tell what year cluster it is or what year car it came out of. I then asked him if the other number on the same sticker would help and I read it to him but no luck there. So end of story. Any ideas?
I just spoke to my local MB dealer (parts department) about my cluster. I gave him my part number 210 540 18 11 and he punched it in. He said that it showed him, what product/part that it was but nothing else. He could not tell what year cluster it is or what year car it came out of. I then asked him if the other number on the same sticker would help and I read it to him but no luck there. So end of story. Any ideas?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 2000 cluster upgrade
Originally posted by scorchie
As mentioned previously... it should be a MY 2000 ONLY cluster... 2001 will give you an error (I'm tracking this down though... it maybe fixable).
As mentioned previously... it should be a MY 2000 ONLY cluster... 2001 will give you an error (I'm tracking this down though... it maybe fixable).
) in a dutch 1998 C220CDI station and have been playing with stardiagnose on this car today.The display defective error that comes up with the 2001 clusters can be taken care of by changing the instrument cluster's CAN ID from 312 to 310 (the MB tech should know how to). This variable setting can be found on the same stardiagnose screen as where all options of the instrument cluster (cellphone, navigation, teleaid) can be (de)activated.
The only downside is that mileage can only be changed on clusters with less then 250 kilometers - 160 miles in europe and the US (150 kilometer in Canada).
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