Adjustable shock question
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1995 Mercedes E320 sedan
Adjustable shock question
Hi..i recently lowered my car and was after a shock absorber that will be stiffer in order to space my wheels out to get that hella flush look. Have been looking on google at the koni sport adjustable shock and was wondering who here runs them, or any similar.
If possible i would want the car to sit as stiff as possible...or rock solid as the gaurd would be sitting a few about 5mm off the tyre, comfort is not a problem
If possible i would want the car to sit as stiff as possible...or rock solid as the gaurd would be sitting a few about 5mm off the tyre, comfort is not a problem
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2002 E320 sedan, 1990 Mazda Miata
I haven't run them on a Benz, but I've had Koni Sports on my '91 Miata for nearly all the time I've owned it and been quite satisfied with them. However, if you're looking to keep the tires from rubbing on the fender liners, shock absorbers will probably not help in this regard. What you'll really need are sufficiently stiff springs and/or rolled or flared fenders.
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pretty much what i was after if the same stiffness my cousin had in his cefiro with d2 adjustable suspension which would have 0 body roll and pretty near to no movement when going over bumps..i was just wondering if this was acheivable by getting the stiffer shocks, otherwise how would i acheive this?..it seems the springs i have are already pretty stiff but just bounces when going over bumps. They are superlows with no pads
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99 E320
i had Voigtland lowering springs for my 99 E320 rwd. I also installed Koni
yellow body adjustable shocks, with soft/med/high dampening settings.
didn't like the shocks as they didn't provide sufficient rebound dampening on
the high setting. sold them immediately and replaced with Bilstein Sport shocks
which have similar dampening rates as the 1" longer, HD shock which does
the job much better. later, I swapped out the Voigtland for Eibachts.
yellow body adjustable shocks, with soft/med/high dampening settings.
didn't like the shocks as they didn't provide sufficient rebound dampening on
the high setting. sold them immediately and replaced with Bilstein Sport shocks
which have similar dampening rates as the 1" longer, HD shock which does
the job much better. later, I swapped out the Voigtland for Eibachts.
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From: Wellington, New Zealand
1995 Mercedes E320 sedan
i had Voigtland lowering springs for my 99 E320 rwd. I also installed Koni
yellow body adjustable shocks, with soft/med/high dampening settings.
didn't like the shocks as they didn't provide sufficient rebound dampening on
the high setting. sold them immediately and replaced with Bilstein Sport shocks
which have similar dampening rates as the 1" longer, HD shock which does
the job much better. later, I swapped out the Voigtland for Eibachts.
yellow body adjustable shocks, with soft/med/high dampening settings.
didn't like the shocks as they didn't provide sufficient rebound dampening on
the high setting. sold them immediately and replaced with Bilstein Sport shocks
which have similar dampening rates as the 1" longer, HD shock which does
the job much better. later, I swapped out the Voigtland for Eibachts.
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99 E320
best combination is subjective and dependent on your own butt, handling
preference, aesthetics, and other details related to the suspension specs.
my set up is not perfect but I'm quite happy with the handling now that the
body roll in slalom like transitions has all but vanished. yet, the ride in
most of the highway driving in my area is still somewhat compliant. if I'm
riding across railroad tracks, poor roads with some small potholes, the ride
can be mildly jarring.
Eibacht lowering springs for the 210, Bilstein Sport shocks, .25" tire gap to
wheel arch, 211 AMG split spoke 18" rims with 225 front and 265 rear
preference, aesthetics, and other details related to the suspension specs.
my set up is not perfect but I'm quite happy with the handling now that the
body roll in slalom like transitions has all but vanished. yet, the ride in
most of the highway driving in my area is still somewhat compliant. if I'm
riding across railroad tracks, poor roads with some small potholes, the ride
can be mildly jarring.
Eibacht lowering springs for the 210, Bilstein Sport shocks, .25" tire gap to
wheel arch, 211 AMG split spoke 18" rims with 225 front and 265 rear
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From: Wellington, New Zealand
1995 Mercedes E320 sedan
best combination is subjective and dependent on your own butt, handling
preference, aesthetics, and other details related to the suspension specs.
my set up is not perfect but I'm quite happy with the handling now that the
body roll in slalom like transitions has all but vanished. yet, the ride in
most of the highway driving in my area is still somewhat compliant. if I'm
riding across railroad tracks, poor roads with some small potholes, the ride
can be mildly jarring.
Eibacht lowering springs for the 210, Bilstein Sport shocks, .25" tire gap to
wheel arch, 211 AMG split spoke 18" rims with 225 front and 265 rear
preference, aesthetics, and other details related to the suspension specs.
my set up is not perfect but I'm quite happy with the handling now that the
body roll in slalom like transitions has all but vanished. yet, the ride in
most of the highway driving in my area is still somewhat compliant. if I'm
riding across railroad tracks, poor roads with some small potholes, the ride
can be mildly jarring.
Eibacht lowering springs for the 210, Bilstein Sport shocks, .25" tire gap to
wheel arch, 211 AMG split spoke 18" rims with 225 front and 265 rear
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mmm, okay, what I'm trying to describe:
the spring is strong X pounds. one must buy a spring which is tuned to the
sprung weight of the car, plus a reasonably loaded car (fluids, passengers,
box of tissue, groceries, etc). each spring made is designed with different
conditions and preferences in mind.
a stiffly designed spring may be used for rallying, fully loaded with sumo
wrestlers, off road use etc.
a soft spring may be designed for comfort, luxury, driver and passenger and
well paved streets and highways
the shocks need to be selected to match the springs. too soft and the springs
will overwhelm the purpose of that shock. too harsh and the car will not provide
a luxury/comfortable ride.
in addition, shocks are designed with certain characteristics in mind and can
be done separately: compression dampening versus rebound dampening
what i was trying to describe above in my earlier post was REBOUND damp-
ening. I was trying to say that the rebound dampening qualities of the Koni,
3 way adjustable (yellow body) shocks were too soft for my liking. I wanted
better control and a tighter, more precise feel even if it meant a harsher ride.
so I sold the Koni and bought the Bilstein Sport which has stronger, thicker
fluid, slower responding, more resistant.... rebound characteristics.
see if this helps. the tricky thing about modifying a suspension is that you're
altering a carefully designed assemblage of parts. there is direct, causal
effect which can upset the balance and performance of a related part if not
done correctly, or taken into consideration - tire, aspect ratio, offset, camber,
shock, spring, etc etc
demonstrates that the suspension parts work in tandem
the spring is strong X pounds. one must buy a spring which is tuned to the
sprung weight of the car, plus a reasonably loaded car (fluids, passengers,
box of tissue, groceries, etc). each spring made is designed with different
conditions and preferences in mind.
a stiffly designed spring may be used for rallying, fully loaded with sumo
wrestlers, off road use etc.
a soft spring may be designed for comfort, luxury, driver and passenger and
well paved streets and highways
the shocks need to be selected to match the springs. too soft and the springs
will overwhelm the purpose of that shock. too harsh and the car will not provide
a luxury/comfortable ride.
in addition, shocks are designed with certain characteristics in mind and can
be done separately: compression dampening versus rebound dampening
what i was trying to describe above in my earlier post was REBOUND damp-
ening. I was trying to say that the rebound dampening qualities of the Koni,
3 way adjustable (yellow body) shocks were too soft for my liking. I wanted
better control and a tighter, more precise feel even if it meant a harsher ride.
so I sold the Koni and bought the Bilstein Sport which has stronger, thicker
fluid, slower responding, more resistant.... rebound characteristics.
see if this helps. the tricky thing about modifying a suspension is that you're
altering a carefully designed assemblage of parts. there is direct, causal
effect which can upset the balance and performance of a related part if not
done correctly, or taken into consideration - tire, aspect ratio, offset, camber,
shock, spring, etc etc
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99 E320
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pretty much what i was after if the same stiffness my cousin had in his cefiro with d2 adjustable suspension which would have 0 body roll and pretty near to no movement when going over bumps..i was just wondering if this was acheivable by getting the stiffer shocks, otherwise how would i acheive this?..it seems the springs i have are already pretty stiff but just bounces when going over bumps. They are superlows with no pads
