Steve 90TTZ

I recently installed some Eibach springs in my 1997 E320. The front is a little bit higher than the rear. The front has spring pad number 5 and the rear 4. I am torn whether to go to 3's or 2's in the front. I would like to get the car level with maybe being a little lower in the front. I also want to be able to get the alignment pretty close to being in spec. I know it also varies by car, but what are other people on this forum running?

TIA,
Steve

Whitey

I'm running #1 in front and #4 in the back and it still doesn't achieve the look I want

Shane C

Whitey,
car looks good, those rims are smokin on your car! are your rims offset? Im wondering if your configuration will work on my car I have lowenhart br5 19x9.5 in the rear 19x8.5 in the front. My fenders are rolled at least the upper sections are. I’m wondering if it will rub? And are you experiencing uneven tire wear?

Steve 90TTZ

Nice car Whitey. What springs do you have? Mine sits nowhere near as low even in the back.

Steve

Whitey

Eibachs. Yes mine is unusually low in the back - as I keep mentioning, I also keep a lot of "dead weight" in the trunk, but even then, it is still low in the back for some strange reason.....I think cars here are set lower than in the US.....

Whitey

Thanks for the comps guys, my wheel dimensions are the same as yours. From memory the ET's are 38 in the back and 31 in the front...not sure about the front. No rubbing whatsoever, under normal circumstances and no fender rolling done. Tire width and brand will of course have an inpact as well. BR5 - nice wheels!

Das E320

Shane how did you go about getting your fenders rolled. I know from my E36 M3 days that there was this tool that bolted onto your wheel hub with the rims removed and applied pressure to the fender. Please let me know how you or whomever did this. Plus could you post some pics?

Shane C

Thanks Whitey!

Das
I was lucky enough to have already had mine done when i bought my car was getting serious about lowering and i assumed that my fenders were not rolled after washing car one day i was pleasantly surprised to find they were done!) . tirerack.com rents the tool $4.95 plus shipping i think like $25.00 but they are 4-6 months backlogged. i have heard of this being done with a baseball bat and a blow drier heating up then prying between the tire and fender but I wouldn’t recommend on a Mercedes I’d love to try on a Honda though. I live in San Antonio TX and could not find anyone to do the rolling. Most shops said that they cut this section off. OK like I'm going to let you touch my car with a sawsall !!!!



the pics of my fenders did not turn out (too dark) found these online

Whitey

I saw a thread once with a step by step pictorial on rolling fenders but I just can't remember where...... Yes, if not done properly the paint will crack and you'll run into all sorts of problems...most obvious being rust.

I forgot Shane...I don't have adjustable camber rods but no uneven wear so far, then again I hadn't had this setup for too long.

BTW, that ride of yours is lookin good but it could do with a bit of lowering. I'm not sure why you had to roll the fenders in its current state tho

Shane C

yeah they were rolled prior to me, i wondered why they had been rolled. the car had original wheels when i bought it seems like a unessessary project and waste of money to me ???? well one less thing to worry about for me when i get around to dropping it. I found shop to install for $150.00 wanting to go with eibach but i've heard they tend to sag over time still debating Eibach and H&R Voightland on ebay for $200.00 sure would like to have info from someone thats got em. From what i read eibach seem to lower a car a little more than the others.

Whitey

the front and back height seems to be a bit odd for the eibach and this is confirmed by quite a number of members. seems h&r is the best for a good slam and comfort.

kicker

what about OEM pads, what # are they? I am planning to order the KONI adjustable shocks. I don't know if they came with any pads include in the package. can I re-use the OEM ones, or I have to buy a new one. Getting my Volgtland spring next week.

Whitey

Might have been lowered once before.....

All springs should sag once their elasticity has gone but mine haven't sagged noticeably in two years.....wish it would .

Steve 90TTZ

I changed out the front #5 pads to #2 pads. The front came down quite a bit but now the rear has to come down. I am not sure whether I should go for #2 or #3 in the rear. The car originally had #5 in the front and #4 in the rear.

Steve

Steve 90TTZ

I took some pictures as well as some measurements to see help decide on what spring pads I should go to in the back. I've been noticing by looking at all the pictures on this forum, that most W210s sit closer to the wheel well in the rear than in the front. Am I right?

Here are the measurements with the number 4 pads in the rear and number 2 in the front.

Left Front=25.25" Left Rear=26"
Right Front=25.5" Right Rear=25.75"







TIA,
Steve

Whitey

IMHO, your's looks just fine the way it is....very well balanced - I wished mine is higher in the back. If you note most of the lowered cars here, the front is considerably lower than yours.

Based on your pics, the distance from the top of the tire to the top of the wheel arch looks very similar front and back, which looks "comfortable".....but the car is then higher in the back because the front wheel arch is in actually higher and would be more sporty/agressive looking. I personally wouldn't change but if you want a level car, then by all means go one or two pad #'s lower - the difference between each # pad is about 3 to 5mm, I understand.