Picture of lowered E500 with no sensor modifications
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Picture of lowered E500 with no sensor modifications
This is a picture of mbworld member kyee's E500, which was lowered via Star Diagnosis. We were able to get .75" drop in front and 1.25" drop in rear, which is quite a bit (and it could have gone further but this was enough for him). His car started out looking pretty high... I forgot to take a picture beforehand though. The car also started out uneven after spending 30 minutes "normalizing" it, being lower on the driver's side by about 1/4", and a bit too high in the rear. This was evened out during the lowering process.
The car sits on 18" rims, so keep that in mind. There were ABSOLUTELY NO HARDWARE MODIFICATIONS to this car. No bending sensor arms, no bending brackets, no replacing screws, no adding shims of any type. The car is completely warrantiable.
-s-
The car sits on 18" rims, so keep that in mind. There were ABSOLUTELY NO HARDWARE MODIFICATIONS to this car. No bending sensor arms, no bending brackets, no replacing screws, no adding shims of any type. The car is completely warrantiable.
-s-
Last edited by scorchie; Mar 10, 2005 at 12:49 PM.
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Front needs to come down a little, or up on the rear. Nicely done tho. I need to drop my rear by .75, and theres no more room on my threads on the rear bracket for a bigger shim. need to cut holes now I guess.
Whats up with his exhaust?? looks like its hangin pretty low
Whats up with his exhaust?? looks like its hangin pretty low
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Looks like the car's been to Home Depot and has a few too many bags of concrete in the trunk. But hey, if the owner's happy, I'm happy for him, and I promise not to snicker if I see the car.
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Just wondering how much the programming costs. I lowered mine via $0.08 washers and a Dremel tool (1st time user) and it costed me about $0.64 after I returned the Dremel.
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Im with Samoan_Ridah.. I lowered my E via the washer method and it worked out great. Plust it didnt look retarded like the one above...
Of course Scorchie is gonna scream but its warrantied...
Doesnt matter either way you lower it... if your dealer is a **** then he wont cover suspension issues.
Nice thing about the washer method is YOU can return it to stock without the dealer knowing.
Of course Scorchie is gonna scream but its warrantied...
Doesnt matter either way you lower it... if your dealer is a **** then he wont cover suspension issues.
Nice thing about the washer method is YOU can return it to stock without the dealer knowing.
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Originally Posted by Samoan_Ridah
Just wondering how much the programming costs. I lowered mine via $0.08 washers and a Dremel tool (1st time user) and it costed me about $0.64 after I returned the Dremel.
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No, silly. Home Depot lets you buy, use and return the tool after the job is done because the tool is the wrong color. "No one gets hurt", and "Everyone does it" are 2 of the excuses people use to justify this theft like scam.
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
No, silly. Home Depot lets you buy, use and return the tool after the job is done because the tool is the wrong color. "No one gets hurt", and "Everyone does it" are 2 of the excuses people use to justify this theft like scam.
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Originally Posted by Samoan_Ridah
Just wondering how much the programming costs. I lowered mine via $0.08 washers and a Dremel tool (1st time user) and it costed me about $0.64 after I returned the Dremel.
How can you sleep at night if you return an item that served its purpose and was not faulty?
I personally know people who do that kind of Sh#t and I am not one of them. I have a Dremel tool and I do use it every so often. I would think that it would be a good tool to have around. But that is just my opinion.
About the looks of the car, it looks loaded down and not sporty. Like it was mentioned before, the rear needs to come up or the front needs to go down some more.
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Barry you are as bad as me....
Home Depot has gotten pretty strict.. used to be able to return stuff that was two years old!
Now all the haters dont flame me... I spent about $25k last year at Home Depot... and kept it all
Home Depot has gotten pretty strict.. used to be able to return stuff that was two years old!
Now all the haters dont flame me... I spent about $25k last year at Home Depot... and kept it all
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The car height was set within guidelines set by Mercedes-Benz... so it's not done "by eye" or whatever anyone thinks is aesthetically pleasing. Of course, owners are able to do whatever they would like to their cars. It's just if you do have a dealership with sharp advisors or technicians, you may get your car blacklisted before you know it (check previous threads on people who lowered the car with slotting the rear suspension and got denied warranty coverage--it happens to more people than just ones that write in this forum, I've heard it from people at the dealership as well).
The floor of the car is level. If you measure a car that is sitting properly, the floor will be level, and the wheel arches in the rear will be lower than in the front.
But then again, it appears most people in this forum have cars that aren't level! (Search on "my car is sitting lower on one side" and check out the threads.)
And as was posted in this thread, everyone can do what they like to their cars. I don't feel half the stuff people do in this forum is something that I would want to do, but I feel no need to tell someone that if the person likes the result (example: star grill).
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The floor of the car is level. If you measure a car that is sitting properly, the floor will be level, and the wheel arches in the rear will be lower than in the front.
But then again, it appears most people in this forum have cars that aren't level! (Search on "my car is sitting lower on one side" and check out the threads.)
And as was posted in this thread, everyone can do what they like to their cars. I don't feel half the stuff people do in this forum is something that I would want to do, but I feel no need to tell someone that if the person likes the result (example: star grill).
-s-
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Originally Posted by scorchie
The car height was set within guidelines set by Mercedes-Benz... so it's not done "by eye" or whatever anyone thinks is aesthetically pleasing. Of course, owners are able to do whatever they would like to their cars. It's just if you do have a dealership with sharp advisors or technicians, you may get your car blacklisted before you know it (check previous threads on people who lowered the car with slotting the rear suspension and got denied warranty coverage--it happens to more people than just ones that write in this forum, I've heard it from people at the dealership as well).
The floor of the car is level. If you measure a car that is sitting properly, the floor will be level, and the wheel arches in the rear will be lower than in the front.
But then again, it appears most people in this forum have cars that aren't level! (Search on "my car is sitting lower on one side" and check out the threads.)
And as was posted in this thread, everyone can do what they like to their cars. I don't feel half the stuff people do in this forum is something that I would want to do, but I feel no need to tell someone that if the person likes the result (example: star grill).
-s-
The floor of the car is level. If you measure a car that is sitting properly, the floor will be level, and the wheel arches in the rear will be lower than in the front.
But then again, it appears most people in this forum have cars that aren't level! (Search on "my car is sitting lower on one side" and check out the threads.)
And as was posted in this thread, everyone can do what they like to their cars. I don't feel half the stuff people do in this forum is something that I would want to do, but I feel no need to tell someone that if the person likes the result (example: star grill).
-s-
As always Scorchie you are right... everyone else is wrong.
A grill is one thing..... but looking like the car has 30 bags of mulch in the trunk looks silly.
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Originally Posted by scorchie
so it's not done "by eye" or whatever anyone thinks is aesthetically pleasing.
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Looks like crapola. I had one vehicle that sat like that in my life. An old 4x4 truck. Just because it is level or in spec does not mean that it looks good. Case in point: Stock. It looks like ***** but hey, it is in factory spec. The bad part now is he needs to pay someone to raise or lower it again. Buy the brackets and you can do whatever you want in 10-15 minutes time. Up, down, to the Dealer, from the Dealer, who knows.
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It could stand to be raised a tad. However, when I tried to get the spacing the same between the rear and the front, it did appear that the car was riding higher in the back. I ended up lowering the rear a little lower than the front to even it out, as shown. Even now, however, the system adjusts and it appears to be higher in the back.
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Anyone had their car lowered via Star Diagnosis in the Tri-State area? I asked my local dealer and they said no problem. But when I went to pick it up, they said it was as low as the MB specs would allow. My car looks ridiculous it sits so high. If that car is still within specs, then mine can definitely be lowered. My dealer is fine with the normal stuff, but ask them to do something above and beyond, and forget it. Anyway, if anyone in the area has done this, let me know where.
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Yea I always wondered by people lower their rears more than their fronts...
When I had my RSX, I gave in for mods and they had done the same set up dropping it 1.75 in the rear and 1.25 in the front..it looked awkward and I told them to change it around...
When I had my RSX, I gave in for mods and they had done the same set up dropping it 1.75 in the rear and 1.25 in the front..it looked awkward and I told them to change it around...
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That's my car that Scorchie worked on. I did notice that the rear looks lower than the front, but as always I defer to Scorchie's knowledge on MB cars. Ride quality has not changed one bit. For others that have lowered their car, have you kept it level front to back like mine, or gone for the even "look", meaning the back would be higher than the front?
Another great mod that Scorchie did a week before this mod was to secure the JL Audio sub box that I have in my trunk, so the damn thing doesn't slide around anymore during hard turns. Great work all around!
Another great mod that Scorchie did a week before this mod was to secure the JL Audio sub box that I have in my trunk, so the damn thing doesn't slide around anymore during hard turns. Great work all around!
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Originally Posted by kyee
That's my car that Scorchie worked on. I did notice that the rear looks lower than the front, but as always I defer to Scorchie's knowledge on MB cars. Ride quality has not changed one bit. For others that have lowered their car, have you kept it level front to back like mine, or gone for the even "look", meaning the back would be higher than the front?
Another great mod that Scorchie did a week before this mod was to secure the JL Audio sub box that I have in my trunk, so the damn thing doesn't slide around anymore during hard turns. Great work all around!
Another great mod that Scorchie did a week before this mod was to secure the JL Audio sub box that I have in my trunk, so the damn thing doesn't slide around anymore during hard turns. Great work all around!
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I have looked and looked at the picture and finally I saw what was bothering me. It is not so much the lower rear end but the clearance around the rear tire. It is not symetrical...the tire is cut off at the top by the fender well and that is what bothers me. However, if the owner likes the look then that is all that matters. And it looks like it is pretty easy to correct (or change) if he wants to.
Nice ride
Nice ride
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One more time....
the ride height is not supposed to be "even". It is designed to be just a tad higher in the rear, for passengers and/or other loads. I'm not saying that you can't get it hooked up that way if you want, but the factory and most knowlegeable tuners will tell you it's supposed to be just a trace nose heavy. That being said, I agreee that the car in question here is too low in the rear..just my .02.
