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MB management refinement…
One can only hope that things are changing for the better. On one hand I am a little concerned that former execs refuse to return (even from GM) however, on the other hand maybe they were the cause of the problems that exist today.
“The latest round of speculation regarding the top job at Mercedes-Benz has the search for a new leader turning inward. The Financial Times Deutschland reported on Monday that new DC CEO Dieter Zetsche would prefer that the next head of the Mercedes Group come from within the company, rather than be lured from another automaker. Zetsche may not have much choice in the matter: former Mercedes and Chrysler executive Wolfgang Bernhard told VW employees last week he had no intention of leaving the company that he joined after being dismissed from the Mercedes slot before he even took office. In addition to Bernhard, former BMW product chief Wolfgang Reitzle told Germany's Handelsblatt that he too had no interest in leaving his job at manufacturing firm Linde AG for the Benz post. Finally, GM's European president Carl-Peter Forster has come out with a statement that he has no intention of leaving GM for Mercedes, either. Current Mercedes Group leader Eckhard Cordes is expected to leave the company now that Dieter Zetsche has been named the next CEO of DaimlerChrysler AG.”
“The latest round of speculation regarding the top job at Mercedes-Benz has the search for a new leader turning inward. The Financial Times Deutschland reported on Monday that new DC CEO Dieter Zetsche would prefer that the next head of the Mercedes Group come from within the company, rather than be lured from another automaker. Zetsche may not have much choice in the matter: former Mercedes and Chrysler executive Wolfgang Bernhard told VW employees last week he had no intention of leaving the company that he joined after being dismissed from the Mercedes slot before he even took office. In addition to Bernhard, former BMW product chief Wolfgang Reitzle told Germany's Handelsblatt that he too had no interest in leaving his job at manufacturing firm Linde AG for the Benz post. Finally, GM's European president Carl-Peter Forster has come out with a statement that he has no intention of leaving GM for Mercedes, either. Current Mercedes Group leader Eckhard Cordes is expected to leave the company now that Dieter Zetsche has been named the next CEO of DaimlerChrysler AG.”
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Wow... the fact that no body wants to jump on this job tells volumes of the mess they're in. This is almost like the airlines search for a CEO.
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Update from that dated article: Cordes will leave September 1 and Zetsche will take over at MB as well as DC boss. Zetsche said it will not be a short time position for him and his emphasis will be on quality and profits. The same priorities he had when he took over Chrysler and was successful.
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time will only tell what the outcome of it. I trust it'll come out well since Dieter has proven himself what he did for Chrysler. I'm sure he'll turn MB back to their glory days. However, I fear with their latest slew of coming redesigned cars don't look very good. Kind of looking like Chris Bangle's BMW,
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Update from that dated article: Cordes will leave September 1 and Zetsche will take over at MB as well as DC boss. Zetsche said it will not be a short time position for him and his emphasis will be on quality and profits. The same priorities he had when he took over Chrysler and was successful.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Let’s keep or fingers crossed! Nevertheless (dated or not) the point is no one wants the job.
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
"no one wants the job.." I doubt that is the case...Zetsche will stay with the leadership until he feels things are in line and I am sure there is all kinds of talent that would kill for the job of running MB.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Why did he decide to wear two hats if there's all this proven talent tripping over each other in their wanting to run MB? I'm not feeding the fire, just feeling a bit worried.
If he wanted to hire someone (even one of those who "said they did not want the job") he would have done so and the chosen person would have jumper in my estimation. I see nothing to be "worried about." If he could turn Chrysler around, just think what he can do with a base like MB.
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
He will not take over DC until next year and I am sure being the kind of manager he is, he wanted to get as close as possible to MB problems. This is the jewel of the crown.
If he wanted to hire someone (even one of those who "said they did not want the job") he would have done so and the chosen person would have jumper in my estimation. I see nothing to be "worried about." If he could turn Chrysler around, just think what he can do with a base like MB.
If he wanted to hire someone (even one of those who "said they did not want the job") he would have done so and the chosen person would have jumper in my estimation. I see nothing to be "worried about." If he could turn Chrysler around, just think what he can do with a base like MB.
I think MB is going to have a prosperous future ahead of itself since for once an engineer is leading the company and he knows how to run a company. He not only is a smart businessman, he is damn good at making top quality products. If he can revive Chrysler he can surely instill some enthusiasm within DC. I for one think the next E will have more features than some Japanese cars and the future is looking very bright.
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. I for one think the next E will have more features than some Japanese cars and the future is looking very bright.
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"no comment/no interest in the job"
I wouldn't put too much weight on the comments of the CEOs/execs listed in the article. It's just like high profile coaches in sports - they almost never admit their genuine interest in an alternate job. Admitting that just puts them in a bad situation with their administration, players and fans. Then - ta da! They're sitting in a press conference talking about how happy they are to join their next team.
Same thing with execs at companies. They'd never publicly admit to being interested in the job (or anything less than very happy with their current job) for fear of reprisal from their board/stockholders (administration), employees (players) and customers (fans).
I'm not saying all the above execs are interested in the job - who knows what they're thinking. I'm saying that if they were interested, they'd never admit it publicly, and thus their statements mean very little.
Same thing with execs at companies. They'd never publicly admit to being interested in the job (or anything less than very happy with their current job) for fear of reprisal from their board/stockholders (administration), employees (players) and customers (fans).
I'm not saying all the above execs are interested in the job - who knows what they're thinking. I'm saying that if they were interested, they'd never admit it publicly, and thus their statements mean very little.
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MB had better NOT emulate/copy Bangle--That fool is why I switched from BMW (m)
to MB.Despite 4 BMWs since 96 I just couldn't stomach the utterly ghastly new 5 series. The interior is especially awful--which is why I looked with more than a little unease of the upcoming S class. Its interior mimics the worst of the "new" 5 & 7 series cars- A silly, dischordant and "tacked on" looking double hump design resembling a 75 Buick. So much for graceful elegance and style as in the current E.
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to MB.Despite 4 BMWs since 96 I just couldn't stomach the utterly ghastly new 5 series. The interior is especially awful--which is why I looked with more than a little unease of the upcoming S class. Its interior mimics the worst of the "new" 5 & 7 series cars- A silly, dischordant and "tacked on" looking double hump design resembling a 75 Buick. So much for graceful elegance and style as in the current E.
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then there's the Buick like column shift! For God's sake, what are the Germans doing? Coping the worse in design of the 70's American cars! Even the dash layout of the new S resembles a Lincoln! I think the W211 will go down as the last "Classic" design Benz.
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Beauty in the eyes of the beholder.....I think the new S is spectacular and these two shots certainly look good to me. To each his own though....
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Originally Posted by atssystems.com
Are you serious? The new S has a steering mounted column shift?
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
ALL new MB models have the shift on the steering column. Note the picture above. It is on the new R, the new ML, the CLS and I don't know how many other models. This is a picture of the R Class.
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to call it ugly is not right, and is unfair... For me, it's more of a missed opportunity to be different... but now it's just a slightly better version of the 7 series.. I don't know, I guess I expected more out of the S.
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Not sure "unfair" is the right word. To me, the dash of the new S is "ugly" (m)
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to call it ugly is not right, and is unfair... For me, it's more of a missed opportunity to be different... but now it's just a slightly better version of the 7 series.. I don't know, I guess I expected more out of the S.
"Unfair"? No. Opinion? Absolutely. Lets see if MB can dig itself out of this one. First its own ads criticize BMW and now it does pretty much the exact same thing. Good thinking!
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Originally Posted by JWS3
To others it might not be, but given its more than coincidental resemblance to the long blasted 7 series one might have thought MB would at least try to avoid the flak directed at BMW. Look at it-there is a silly double hump and tacked on area, iDrive and resemblance to a 75 Buick. Good luck, MB--you'll need it.
"Unfair"? No. Opinion? Absolutely. Lets see if MB can dig itself out of this one. First its own ads criticize BMW and now it does pretty much the exact same thing. Good thinking!
"Unfair"? No. Opinion? Absolutely. Lets see if MB can dig itself out of this one. First its own ads criticize BMW and now it does pretty much the exact same thing. Good thinking!
I'll take the Lexus!
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I think both interiors are un-inspiring and very boring... If I had to chose then I guess it would be the lexus.... But let me make it clear that this would be true only if I had to choose from the two.
rjm.... what ya drive bro??? Do you own an MB???? or are you a lexus man. I don't see what you drive in your profile.
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Check out this interior and make your choice....it's a new Lexus LS430.
I'll take the Lexus!
I'll take the Lexus!
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Originally Posted by HELL ONA HARLEY
I think both interiors are un-inspiring and very boring... If I had to chose then I guess it would be the lexus.... But let me make it clear that this would be true only if I had to choose from the two.
rjm.... what ya drive bro??? Do you own an MB???? or are you a lexus man. I don't see what you drive in your profile.
rjm.... what ya drive bro??? Do you own an MB???? or are you a lexus man. I don't see what you drive in your profile.
I think the S when you sit in it and get the full feel of the new dash display, it will really start to effect your senses in a positive way.
When it comes to the engineering of the two cars...their is no contest in my mind. A Toyota history or a Mercedes Benz history. Many people have called my new R Class a Chrysler Pacifica clone...so I feel quite comfortable calling the Lexus a glorified Camry.
I two or so years (God willing) I will trade my R Class for a new S Class and think that by that time the car will have obtained the status of the world leader in the luxury class.
Can you tell I have driven MB's since the early 70's...:-)
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
Sorry guys...I think the Lexus looks, I don't know what to call it, plastic city looking. The wood color is something I could not live with.
I think the S when you sit in it and get the full feel of the new dash display, it will really start to effect your senses in a positive way.
When it comes to the engineering of the two cars...their is no contest in my mind. A Toyota history or a Mercedes Benz history. Many people have called my new R Class a Chrysler Pacifica clone...so I feel quite comfortable calling the Lexus a glorified Camry.
I two or so years (God willing) I will trade my R Class for a new S Class and think that by that time the car will have obtained the status of the world leader in the luxury class.
Can you tell I have driven MB's since the early 70's...:-)
I think the S when you sit in it and get the full feel of the new dash display, it will really start to effect your senses in a positive way.
When it comes to the engineering of the two cars...their is no contest in my mind. A Toyota history or a Mercedes Benz history. Many people have called my new R Class a Chrysler Pacifica clone...so I feel quite comfortable calling the Lexus a glorified Camry.
I two or so years (God willing) I will trade my R Class for a new S Class and think that by that time the car will have obtained the status of the world leader in the luxury class.
Can you tell I have driven MB's since the early 70's...:-)
Guess I better set the record straight now..... My comments only pertain the pictures of interiors of the cars.... I've not sat in either nor looked at them in person. My opinion is based soley on the pictures in this thread. Having said that, I wouldn't consider buying either. I don't particulaly like the styling of the LS430 or the S class..... old or new.
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Lets face it Harley.. the W211 looks are going to be a hard act to follow inside and out.. if the next E is going to be a smaller version of the S.. I think I may end up keeping this car longer than I expected (vinyl seats not withstanding 
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