06 E350 4matic or 05 E500 4matic
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06 E350 4matic or 05 E500 4matic
Got a call from salesperson responding to my email request for a price on an 06 E350 4matic. Salesperson responds with invoice less $3000 if financed with MBC for the 06 E350 4matic. Works out to MSRP of $57,955, my cost of $50,952, with premium and lighting options. But wait there is more - salesperson says how about a leftover 2005 E500 4matic with MSRP of $64,970, my cost of $51,970, with heated seats, sunroof and cd player options. Mmmm.... V8 I start thinking. But there are pros and cons:
Pros- faster (but not that much), all leather, air suspension, 4 zone climate control, what else?
Cons - no NAV, no upgraded stereo, no bi-zenons, $1,300 gas guzzler tax (included in above numbers) and lower gas mileage, what else?
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Pros- faster (but not that much), all leather, air suspension, 4 zone climate control, what else?
Cons - no NAV, no upgraded stereo, no bi-zenons, $1,300 gas guzzler tax (included in above numbers) and lower gas mileage, what else?
All opinions welcome!
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Originally Posted by 2manytoys
you are gonna kick yourself in the pants for not getting the Navi. Mark my words!
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally Posted by Calcio
$1500 more to add the NAV, and WTF is it with all the cars around here ordered with sunroof, CD, heated seats instead of the premium package!!! Is this a dealer trick to get you to pony up $1500 more for the NAV? Plus the Harmon Kardon sound upgrade is included in the premium package, but let me guess, the dealer can add that too for another $1000 or so!
Now, premium package gets you CD, Sunroof, Heated Seats, plus Navi and Harmon Kardon for only a few hundred bucks more. I tried to get one of these cars, but at the time I was buying, they were just coming out, so I had to settle for CD, Roof, and Heat to get the color combination I wanted.
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Originally Posted by CE750
E500 + Add Xenon and NAV for a total cost of $55K
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by Calcio
NAV can be added but they tell me that Xenon can not. True?
Buy the two lights and plug-n-play... they only need to version code the computer for "Xenon-present"
do a search, there's tons of info on it.. Also, Steve (MBenzNL) can get them probably for a better price than the dealer who'll charge you $1800 for the pair.
Forget the autolevel sensors, that's the 10 hours extra labor you don't need.
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Originally Posted by Matt230K
Starting with July '05 production, they repackaged the cars and now it is a great value to get the premium package. It used to not be as good of a value. My dealer orders everything with premium package now, but they didn't used to.
Now, premium package gets you CD, Sunroof, Heated Seats, plus Navi and Harmon Kardon for only a few hundred bucks more. I tried to get one of these cars, but at the time I was buying, they were just coming out, so I had to settle for CD, Roof, and Heat to get the color combination I wanted.
Now, premium package gets you CD, Sunroof, Heated Seats, plus Navi and Harmon Kardon for only a few hundred bucks more. I tried to get one of these cars, but at the time I was buying, they were just coming out, so I had to settle for CD, Roof, and Heat to get the color combination I wanted.
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by cyclerider
Drive-Dynamic seats and rear door roll-up blinds were de-contented to help lower the price.
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Originally Posted by CE750
Those blinds are a requirement in Arizona.. glad I kept my '05, and didn't sell to into CA...
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2010 C300 4matic
Originally Posted by cyclerider
The Premium Package is $2950, which is lots more than "a few hundred bucks more". It is, however, a very good value compared to ordering the options seperately at a cost of over $4000. The H/K Logic 7 is only available in the premium package. Last year the Premium Package cost $3950, and heated seats were an additional $680. Drive-Dynamic seats and rear door roll-up blinds were de-contented to help lower the price.
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Originally Posted by Matt230K
I meant that premium package is only a few hundred bucks more than getting CD Changer, Roof, and Heated Seats separately. Those few extra bucks get you NAVI and Harmon Kardon.
That's Harmon Kardon for you gun club members, not Heckler & Koch which could come in handy for defending against road rage!
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V8 baby...but hey I'm biased...you want a 55K vehicle and are concerned about mileage - I can see it with the CDI not with the two choices you're presenting here though.
Heckler & Koch P7 M8 baby...whaaaaa??? Not included in the glovebox? That's a deal breaker!!!
Heckler & Koch P7 M8 baby...whaaaaa??? Not included in the glovebox? That's a deal breaker!!!
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Originally Posted by StapleGun
Heckler & Koch P7 M8 baby...whaaaaa??? Not included in the glovebox? That's a deal breaker!!!
Last edited by Calcio; 11-10-2005 at 03:43 PM. Reason: typo
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'06 E 350 4matic wagon; '05 E 500 4matic sedan; '09 S550 4matic
The dealer can add Sirius and Nav. They want to move the '05. I bought one a few months ago (500 AWD) and just negotiated everything in (HK, Nav, Sirius, winter mats). I'm a cash guy but wanted the additional financing discount so I negotiated a 90 day only obligation on MB $10K financing(minumum loan I could talk them down to, I tried to get them don to $1K but the manager spit the bit on that one) but got the full credit, then just paid it off 90 days later.
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by mbnj
The dealer can add Sirius and Nav. They want to move the '05. I bought one a few months ago (500 AWD) and just negotiated everything in (HK, Nav, Sirius, winter mats). I'm a cash guy but wanted the additional financing discount so I negotiated a 90 day only obligation on MB $10K financing(minumum loan I could talk them down to, I tried to get them don to $1K but the manager spit the bit on that one) but got the full credit, then just paid it off 90 days later.
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Originally Posted by CE750
much like I did... I just sent in the check to pay off the car, and raised my insurance deductible back up to $2500!
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by cyclerider
I hope you are keeping $100 deductible on comprehensive
If I were to have an accident, I am prepared to pay out of pocket $2500.. I save $1000/yr doing this... it's a form of self-insurance.
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Originally Posted by CE750
No... I crunched the numbers, and based on the raise in insurance rates if I file a claim, $2500 is the logical level to pay out of pocket.
If I were to have an accident, I am prepared to pay out of pocket $2500.. I save $1000/yr doing this... it's a form of self-insurance.
If I were to have an accident, I am prepared to pay out of pocket $2500.. I save $1000/yr doing this... it's a form of self-insurance.
Maybe your agent has seen your time slips from Firebird!
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Originally Posted by cyclerider
Wow!!!!!!!!! I only pay about $600 a year for $1000 deductible collision/ $100 deductible comprehensive.
Maybe your agent has seen your time slips from Firebird!
Maybe your agent has seen your time slips from Firebird!
Good driver, home owner's discount, and life discount..
AZ is expensive though.
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Originally Posted by mbnj
The dealer can add Sirius and Nav. They want to move the '05. I bought one a few months ago (500 AWD) and just negotiated everything in (HK, Nav, Sirius, winter mats). I'm a cash guy but wanted the additional financing discount so I negotiated a 90 day only obligation on MB $10K financing(minumum loan I could talk them down to, I tried to get them don to $1K but the manager spit the bit on that one) but got the full credit, then just paid it off 90 days later.
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Originally Posted by CE750
I'll look into it.. But I had a claim on my V70 about 3 years ago, and they raised my rates by enough to more than pay back the $3000 I filed... it's a waste of money. I'm with Farmers and pay about $1200/yr now for the MB, it was closer to $2000/yr for the 1000 deductible.
Good driver, home owner's discount, and life discount..
AZ is expensive though.
Good driver, home owner's discount, and life discount..
AZ is expensive though.