Brake Failure: It Happened Again
06-05-2006, 10:08 AM
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Brake Failure: It Happened Again
This is a followup to the older thead titled "Help! Repeated Brake Failure"
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
06-05-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by louiscg
This is a followup to the older thead titled "Help! Repeated Brake Failure"
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
06-05-2006, 12:29 PM
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When will it happen?
The first fatality from a very, very bad design? MB better start getting ready for the biggest class action suit in the history of car manufacturing. They have been slow to recognize a huge problem and slower to remedy it. Get ready.
06-05-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by louiscg
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
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06-05-2006, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm
The first fatality from a very, very bad design? MB better start getting ready for the biggest class action suit in the history of car manufacturing. They have been slow to recognize a huge problem and slower to remedy it. Get ready.
06-05-2006, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by louiscg
This is a followup to the older thead titled "Help! Repeated Brake Failure"
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I am completely stumped that your dealership is not able to resolve the SBC issue by replacing defective parts.
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06-05-2006, 05:15 PM
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Out of curiousity when was the Class Action lawsuit filed vs. Mercedes Benz. If so, were E- Classes the only model affected or were there other models included? Interested in knowing this info.
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amer
Thanks,
amer
06-05-2006, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by djamer
Out of curiousity when was the Class Action lawsuit filed vs. Mercedes Benz. If so, were E- Classes the only model affected or were there other models included? Interested in knowing this info.
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amer
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amer
06-05-2006, 07:46 PM
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............ unless the event data recorder retains information about hard brake application and system failure prior to impact.
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Originally Posted by louiscg
This is a followup to the older thead titled "Help! Repeated Brake Failure"
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I picked up the car (2005 E500) last Wednesday, and on the way to work this morning (Monday) the SBC system failed again. I purposely limped to the dealership with the brake warning still present on the dash. They assured me when I picked up the car that all the recalls/service bulletin actions were performed.
The brakes have now failed 5 times while I have been driving and one time while the technician was test driving. I told them that the car is now theirs, and that I expected a remedy proposal in the next few days.
We will see.
I got a new Benz after ONE failure. Get a laywer and make sure that they know that you intent to make a LOT of media noise about this.
06-05-2006, 07:52 PM
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If you think SBC was a mistake, you had better not get a new Lexus GS.
Electronically Controlled Brake system (GS 430): Similar to the system on the Mercedes E-Class, this system is akin to brake-by-wire. The system measures the speed and pressure of your foot on the brake pedal and transfers it electronically to the brakes at each wheel. Combined with huge 13.1 inch front rotors and high friction brake pads, this system works with VDIM to maximize brake performance and provide straight, fade free stops in all weather and road conditions.
Electronically Controlled Brake system (GS 430): Similar to the system on the Mercedes E-Class, this system is akin to brake-by-wire. The system measures the speed and pressure of your foot on the brake pedal and transfers it electronically to the brakes at each wheel. Combined with huge 13.1 inch front rotors and high friction brake pads, this system works with VDIM to maximize brake performance and provide straight, fade free stops in all weather and road conditions.
06-06-2006, 06:48 AM
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Service Actions
"For the past few failures, as remedy, did they replace anything? Did you see new parts listed on your work order?"
According to the service documents, the SBC unit was replaced, the battery/voltage for the SBC was checked, the SBC connection was checked for corrosion, and the recall bracket/wire was installed.
According to the service documents, the SBC unit was replaced, the battery/voltage for the SBC was checked, the SBC connection was checked for corrosion, and the recall bracket/wire was installed.
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Originally Posted by louiscg
"For the past few failures, as remedy, did they replace anything? Did you see new parts listed on your work order?"
According to the service documents, the SBC unit was replaced, the battery/voltage for the SBC was checked, the SBC connection was checked for corrosion, and the recall bracket/wire was installed.
According to the service documents, the SBC unit was replaced, the battery/voltage for the SBC was checked, the SBC connection was checked for corrosion, and the recall bracket/wire was installed.
Sorry to hear about your problems. Pls keep us posted on the remedy
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Originally Posted by GearHead
One of my SBC failures was the improper bleeding of the braking system causing the SBC failure. Wondering whether you have the bubbles within the brake hoses.
