Service Brake "Visit Workshop!"
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Service Brake "Visit Workshop!"
I got this message since one week now and suddunly it came, note that i change the brake pads and the brake disk, and after a week from changing that part i got this message.
I take my car to the workshop then they fix it , i take out the car and i get the message agine.
Note that i have E500 - 2003 model..
Any one faced the same problem.
note that i take the car twice, once they remove this message it come back agine after driving the car.
Hope someone can explien the reason and why that comes.
Thanks
I take my car to the workshop then they fix it , i take out the car and i get the message agine.
Note that i have E500 - 2003 model..
Any one faced the same problem.
note that i take the car twice, once they remove this message it come back agine after driving the car.
Hope someone can explien the reason and why that comes.
Thanks
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Originally Posted by Kar don
could be something wrong with the SBC system.
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From: San Clemente, CA
2003 E-500
Originally Posted by Tariq
Whats that? can you explien more?
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Brake pad service workshop message
I have the same message for a week now. 2003 E 320. 36K miles.
I have not yet replaced brake pads.
Is this something you must do as message suggests, or wait if car drives OK?
How much does dealer charge any ideas?
I am assuming this is not covered in warranty.
I have not yet replaced brake pads.
Is this something you must do as message suggests, or wait if car drives OK?
How much does dealer charge any ideas?
I am assuming this is not covered in warranty.
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OK, I'm assuming that those folks who have problems have had all the Recalls/TSB's associated with the SBC braking system and associated with the battery charging problems installed by their dealer. If not, then take your car to the dealer and have them check your VIN number to see what needs to be done.
I'm also assuming that any car that's at least 3 years old has had the brake fluid changed by a dealer or another outfit equiped to do it.
See this thread... https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/145960-w211-recalls.html
I'm also assuming that any car that's at least 3 years old has had the brake fluid changed by a dealer or another outfit equiped to do it.
See this thread... https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/145960-w211-recalls.html
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From: San Clemente, CA
2003 E-500
Originally Posted by IQguy
I have the same message for a week now. 2003 E 320. 36K miles.
I have not yet replaced brake pads.
Is this something you must do as message suggests, or wait if car drives OK?
How much does dealer charge any ideas?
I am assuming this is not covered in warranty.
I have not yet replaced brake pads.
Is this something you must do as message suggests, or wait if car drives OK?
How much does dealer charge any ideas?
I am assuming this is not covered in warranty.
I had all the required TSB's performed for SBC problems, noisy front brakes and the bad cable routing prior to this message. As part of the previous warranty work, they had changed brake fluid and replaced the front brake pads for free.
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Originally Posted by Tariq
i change the brake pads and the brake disk, and after a week from changing that part i got this message. I take my car to the workshop then they fix it , i take out the car and i get the message agine. note that i take the car twice, once they remove this message it come back agine after driving the car.
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Originally Posted by Thrillhouse
that message has NOTHING to do with SBC, almost 99% of the cars I work on with that warning, is the stop lamp switch..........
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Originally Posted by Thrillhouse
that message has NOTHING to do with SBC, almost 99% of the cars I work on with that warning, is the stop lamp switch..........
Well may i know how to stop the lamp switch???
Can you explein in details ?
Thanks agine....
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03 E320 -wife's car now; 07 Porsche Boxster S - my toy
Originally Posted by konigstiger
....... Curious, were the brake wear sensors replaced (Brake wear sensors: one each wheel front, one right rear wheel)?
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From: Sharjah
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Originally Posted by paulv
Konigstiger's curiosity is exactly the problem I had with the same message after owning the car for 2 months (03 E320). The dealer replaced the 3 sensors. never saw the message again.
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Then I would go with the stop lamp switch change out -- it seems to be the only item left.
Does anyone know where the switch is located? They're usually under the dash at the top of the brake pedal on most other cars.
Regards,
Paul...
Does anyone know where the switch is located? They're usually under the dash at the top of the brake pedal on most other cars.
Regards,
Paul...
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2004 E320; 2001 Jaguar VDP
This brake message popped up 3 times within 2 days so I asked my SA at the dealer about it the last time I had the car in the shop for service B.
He didn't elaborate, but told me that something needed to be reset after I changed the brake pads and sensors.
(I did my own pads and sensors on all 4 corners in January about 5k miles ago - no problems until this brake message started about 2weeks ago.)
It's been a week since the car is back from the dealer now and no repeat of the brake message - so far. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
BTW, my car has had all the recall work done including the SBC ground.
Anybody have an idea what he might have meant needed to be reset after changing the pads and sensors?
He didn't elaborate, but told me that something needed to be reset after I changed the brake pads and sensors.
(I did my own pads and sensors on all 4 corners in January about 5k miles ago - no problems until this brake message started about 2weeks ago.)
It's been a week since the car is back from the dealer now and no repeat of the brake message - so far. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
BTW, my car has had all the recall work done including the SBC ground.
Anybody have an idea what he might have meant needed to be reset after changing the pads and sensors?
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03 E320 -wife's car now; 07 Porsche Boxster S - my toy
Originally Posted by DalBenz
This brake message popped up 3 times within 2 days so I asked my SA at the dealer about it the last time I had the car in the shop for service B.
He didn't elaborate, but told me that something needed to be reset after I changed the brake pads and sensors.
(I did my own pads and sensors on all 4 corners in January about 5k miles ago - no problems until this brake message started about 2weeks ago.)
It's been a week since the car is back from the dealer now and no repeat of the brake message - so far. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
BTW, my car has had all the recall work done including the SBC ground.
Anybody have an idea what he might have meant needed to be reset after changing the pads and sensors?
He didn't elaborate, but told me that something needed to be reset after I changed the brake pads and sensors.
(I did my own pads and sensors on all 4 corners in January about 5k miles ago - no problems until this brake message started about 2weeks ago.)
It's been a week since the car is back from the dealer now and no repeat of the brake message - so far. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
BTW, my car has had all the recall work done including the SBC ground.
Anybody have an idea what he might have meant needed to be reset after changing the pads and sensors?
This excerpt is from a WIS procedure I found on another forum for changing
the brake pads (front and/or rear):
"The following steps should be run through
in STAR DIAGNOSIS:
Select the menu item "SBC-Sensotronic
Brake Control"/"Initial startup after
repair"/"Remove/install brake pads".
Then process all the individual steps from top
to bottom."
It is interesting that many people have changed their own pads on this and other MB forums for the W211 and haven't posted anything about having a problem.
Regards,
Paul...
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Damn.... 
I went to the workshop and they informed me that you have problem with SBC as my brake work very good !!!!!
I dont know if they are correct or they are lazy to diagnoze.....
Hope someone can make it more clear that i can do something on this problem... that message bother me alot...
I went to the workshop and they informed me that you have problem with SBC as my brake work very good !!!!!
I dont know if they are correct or they are lazy to diagnoze.....
Hope someone can make it more clear that i can do something on this problem... that message bother me alot...
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Originally Posted by paulv
This excerpt is from a WIS procedure I found on another forum for changing
the brake pads (front and/or rear):
"The following steps should be run through
in STAR DIAGNOSIS:
Select the menu item "SBC-Sensotronic
Brake Control"/"Initial startup after
repair"/"Remove/install brake pads".
Then process all the individual steps from top
to bottom."
It is interesting that many people have changed their own pads on this and other MB forums for the W211 and haven't posted anything about having a problem.
Regards,
Paul...
the brake pads (front and/or rear):
"The following steps should be run through
in STAR DIAGNOSIS:
Select the menu item "SBC-Sensotronic
Brake Control"/"Initial startup after
repair"/"Remove/install brake pads".
Then process all the individual steps from top
to bottom."
It is interesting that many people have changed their own pads on this and other MB forums for the W211 and haven't posted anything about having a problem.
Regards,
Paul...
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Originally Posted by mmgrad
your car is an '03, unless you have >50k miles, why dont you just take the car in for warranty work and get it fixed???
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Originally Posted by Tariq
Paul can you tell me where i can go to the star diagnosis menu?
The Star Diags is the system that MB dealers use to troubleshoot/fix MB's. None of us own one because of the cost (at least $15K).
I don't understand why DalBenz had the problem after he changed the pads.
Regards,
paul....
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Originally Posted by paulv
Tariq,
The Star Diags is the system that MB dealers use to troubleshoot/fix MB's. None of us own one because of the cost (at least $15K).
I don't understand why DalBenz had the problem after he changed the pads.
Regards,
paul....
The Star Diags is the system that MB dealers use to troubleshoot/fix MB's. None of us own one because of the cost (at least $15K).
I don't understand why DalBenz had the problem after he changed the pads.
Regards,
paul....
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From: Sharjah
S500 W223 2021
Originally Posted by paulv
Tariq,
The Star Diags is the system that MB dealers use to troubleshoot/fix MB's. None of us own one because of the cost (at least $15K).
I don't understand why DalBenz had the problem after he changed the pads.
Regards,
paul....
The Star Diags is the system that MB dealers use to troubleshoot/fix MB's. None of us own one because of the cost (at least $15K).
I don't understand why DalBenz had the problem after he changed the pads.
Regards,
paul....
I got your point, and yes they reset the brake service as replaced brake desk and pads but after a week that message appeared....!!!
and it still appear
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