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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Summer Window Lowering

I know on my car with Keyless Go, it is possible to lock the doors, then raise all the windows & close the sunroof by holding in the black buttons on the outside door handles after the vehicle has locked itself untill all the windows have rolled up.

Is there such a thing as a Keyless Go door unlock and lowering of the windows & opening of the sunroof, or can lowering upon unlocking only be done with the Smart Key?
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Is there such a thing as a Keyless Go door unlock and lowering of the windows & opening of the sunroof, or can lowering upon unlocking only be done with the Smart Key?
As far as I know keyless summer opening is not possible. This is only possible using infrared signal from the Smart Key.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Not in manual but push the small lock button and hold in for a sec. After the chirp confirming lock, keep pressing the lock button and now squeeze the large button for opening the door on the back side of the handle. The sunroof and all 4 windows will open 1/2 way. Why not all the way like with the remote I don't know. If you have ventilated seats, the driver's side will be turned on too.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xraymd
Not in manual but push the small lock button and hold in for a sec. After the chirp confirming lock, keep pressing the lock button and now squeeze the large button for opening the door on the back side of the handle. The sunroof and all 4 windows will open 1/2 way. Why not all the way like with the remote I don't know. If you have ventilated seats, the driver's side will be turned on too.
Interesting, half way is better than no way to lower the inside temperature before entering.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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I've gotta try it! I know they woul overengineer this feature too and there just HAD to be a way to do it. Mine doesnt chirp when locking but it does blink the lights.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I use it pretty often because of the way the parking lot is at work. I'm always parked so I'm looking at the passenger side of the vehicle as I'm walking towards it. Can't use the IR on the remote, so I do this trick instead once I've made it to the driver's door. It definitely makes a difference on a hot day.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if all doors would work? I'll have to give it a try.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xraymd
Not in manual but push the small lock button and hold in for a sec. After the chirp confirming lock, keep pressing the lock button and now squeeze the large button for opening the door on the back side of the handle. The sunroof and all 4 windows will open 1/2 way. Why not all the way like with the remote I don't know. If you have ventilated seats, the driver's side will be turned on too.
Actually, it's on page 235 of the manual (at least the online version), but it appears to be a safety function related to the convenience closing feature (some symbols don't paste correctly from the PDF):

"Warning!
When closing the side windows and the
tilt/sliding sunroof* or tilt/sliding panel*,
make sure that there is no danger of anyone
being harmed by the closing procedure.
If potential danger exists, proceed as follows:
 Release button ‹ to stop the closing
procedure. To open, press and hold
buttonOE. To continue the closing
procedure after making sure that there
is no danger of anyone being harmed by
the closing procedure, press and hold
button‹.
Vehicles with KEYLESS-GO*:
 Release the lock button ( page 64) on
the outside door handle to stop the closing
procedure.
 Pull on the outside door handle and hold
firmly. The side windows and the
tilt/sliding sunroof* or tilt/sliding panel*
will open for as long as the door handle
is held but the door not opened."


I have tried this before...but found that it is sometimes difficult to pull on the door handle and NOT open the door (the auto-opening won't work, or will stop working, if the door opens).
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Hey, I just found that on page 222 of my manual (2006 Edition A).

But if you don't hold in the lock button, the door just opens when you squeeze the big button on the inside of the handle. And the windows don't open until I let go of the button. They'll open 1/2 and that's it.

Tried it tonight with the driver's side rear door and it works there too.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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xraymd,

I did a little experimenting and here's the results I get when doing it. Pressing the lock button and pulling at the same time doesn't do anything. I tried playing with the timing of pressing (and holding) the lock button and the delay before pulling the handle and it seems that I need to wait at LEAST until the 3rd light blink before pulling the handle. If I timed it to pull just as the 3rd light began flashing it didn't seem to respond...but sometime after the beginning of the 3rd flash if I pulled the handle it activated the summer cooling.

I'm guessing there's a time delay that the car waits for to make sure that you actually want to activate the summer cooling. It would be better if you could continually pull the handle the moment you press and hold the lock button and after the time delay occurred it would open...but it seems that you have to wait out the time delay BEFORE pulling the handle for it to work. At least that's my experience.

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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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I tried mine tonight, and the windows went down half way & the sunroof opened 1/3. Very nice considering the Smart Key IR summer window opening hardly ever works at all. Its nice to get into a car that has been hot air vented first.

Tomorrow I will pull on the unlock handle & press on the door inward to prevent it from popping open, to see what happens.

I wonder why the IR method lets you lower the windows all the way down yet the Keyless Go method only partially opens the windows... Hmmmm.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
I wonder why the IR method lets you lower the windows all the way down yet the Keyless Go method only partially opens the windows...
I thought gvaughn explained this (post 7). It’s not actually summer opening but rather a safety method / procedure.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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gvaughn - exactly. I have to wait until the 3 chirps confirming locking have all sounded. Reading the manual, it seems like they used to refer to this feature in the text and then removed it later forgetting to remove it from the warning box also. It reads like the warning box statement is clarifying some other statement that's no longer there.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I just checked my PDF E-55 brochure from May 2004 and the text is the same.

I can't get anything to happen when I follow the directions in the manual. Squeeze the handle and the door just opens. Squeeze the handle or pull on it with the door open and nothing happens.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I've got this Keyless Go Window opening feature worked out so it works every time on my car now...

1. Press the black outside lock button & watch lights blink on the door mirror. On what would be the 4th blink, press & hold the lock button. The lights will blink 3 times again.
3. On the 3rd blink, pull the door handle while continuing to press the lock button with your thumb.
4. Sometimes the door will open, sometimes not, but the windows & roof will open by 1/3.

...all you need is rhythm!
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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So the black button on the door handle is only good for keyless go option? i have it on my E500 but i dont have to keyless go option can i still make use of it in any way? thanks
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebenz
So the black button on the door handle is only good for keyless go option? i have it on my E500 but i dont have to keyless go option can i still make use of it in any way? thanks
You have a Black 1/2 inch square push button on all your outside door handles which locks the doors from the outside? ...its not the little burgundy IR window we're talking about on the drivers door handle.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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So the black button on the door handle is only good for keyless go option? i have it on my E500 but i dont have to keyless go option can i still make use of it in any way? thanks
Hmmm...that sounds strange to me. Either you're confusing what the keyless go button looks like (see above post from Barry) or your system should have keyless go - if it has the buttons. I'm pretty sure they don't put the keyless buttons on ALL cars (regardless of whether they have the keyless go feature or not).
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gvaughn
Hmmm...that sounds strange to me. Either you're confusing what the keyless go button looks like (see above post from Barry) or your system should have keyless go - if it has the buttons. I'm pretty sure they don't put the keyless buttons on ALL cars (regardless of whether they have the keyless go feature or not).

They're only on Keyless Go equipped cars, because in addition to the black pushbutton on the outside, they also have a long black squeeze button on the inside of the door handle which unlocks the doors all around when you pull on the handle. (Without ever touching your Smart Key.)
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
I've got this Keyless Go Window opening feature worked out so it works every time on my car now...

1. Press the black outside lock button & watch lights blink on the door mirror. On what would be the 4th blink, press & hold the lock button. The lights will blink 3 times again.
3. On the 3rd blink, pull the door handle while continuing to press the lock button with your thumb.
4. Sometimes the door will open, sometimes not, but the windows & roof will open by 1/3.

...all you need is rhythm!

I bet you're pretty good at video gaming!
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Sounds good. I only push and hold the lock button once. I don't think you need to hit it a second time, but I don't want to mess up your technique if it's working
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xraymd
Sounds good. I only push and hold the lock button once. I don't think you need to hit it a second time, but I don't want to mess up your technique if it's working

I tried many different techniques and found that it often didn't work. I tried this way because the manual states to do the same thing with the smart key.. You are supposed to push the smart key button once to unlock then push it again & hold it to lower the windows. It doesn't work all the time with the ksy that way either, which is why I was hoping to find a way to vent the car keylessly.

Excellent electronic programming. Heh Heh Heh...

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
A video is worth a thousand words....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsDlzx7cArw
Nicely done....same way mine works, no chirps, no blinks. Almost instantly.

BTW Barry, now that the temps are down here on the Island you won't need to do this again until the spring.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz-O-Rama
A video is worth a thousand words....
Hey, your hand is covering the buttons. I can't see what you're doing!
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xraymd
Hey, your hand is covering the buttons. I can't see what you're doing!
I thought about that after I posted it. But it's hard with one hand and the other trying to take a crappy video with a cell phone. I just pushed the lock button for like 3 seconds and while still pushing it, I pushed the button on the back of the pull handle and VOILA!!!!

And, that was the first time I ever tried it. Not tricky at all.
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