E-Class (W211) 2003-2009

help! me and the dealer is stumped!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 07-16-2008, 04:55 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
shaunls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 E500 sport
Unhappy help! me and the dealer is stumped!!!

hey guys i have a problem that me or the dealer cant figure out.
my car is having a low speed surge and jolt(about 5mph) and i droped it off to the dealer thinking i was having the problem with coolant in the tranny like some of these cars have.
the car is a 03 e500 with 72k on it.

i took it in to have it diagnosed and it wasent showing any codes and the service tech cant seem to replicate the symptoms.

they tested the tranny fluid and passed for no coolant and every thing looked good.

so what can it be? the tech drove the car 5 times and he said it seemed fine and he was going to have a higher up tech go with him on another drive.

its stumping me and the dealer so is this just due to the cars age or what?

car has an aftermarket chrysler warranty and i have to pay for a rental and it has been there since monday but i droped it off late in the day so they dident get to it till tuesday.

i need your help guys and thanks.
Old 07-16-2008, 04:59 PM
  #2  
Member
 
EclassFetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
e class
I wouldn't classify 2003 with 70,xxx miles to be old. It could be dirty sensors, have the dealer dis-connect every sensor , clean them out without damaging them and re-connecting them.

it's the price u pay for having a benz and not having factory warranty.

but the problem and symptoms your having sound very complex and can end up being the start of a long and dreary, bank account draining, flip a coin ordeal of events.

my 2001 Lexus LS430 with 118,000 miles hasn't had a single glitch ever. Drives smooth as ever, tranny shifts as good as ever. I put gas in it and go. It's time for my 120,000 service but that's expected right ?

the sad part of all this is that I feel more secure and confident of a lexus with 100,000 miles than I do of a brand new mercedes with ZERO miles. It's sad.

Last edited by EclassFetish; 07-16-2008 at 05:03 PM.
Old 07-16-2008, 07:18 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Barry45RPM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Area, USA
Posts: 5,017
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts
2015 ML 350
Originally Posted by EclassFetish
...the sad part of all this is that I feel more secure and confident of a lexus with 100,000 miles than I do of a brand new mercedes with ZERO miles. It's sad.
The above is definitely not true on the '07s & '08s. It is unfortunate that MB let it be true on the '03s - '06s.
Old 07-16-2008, 07:20 PM
  #4  
Member
 
EclassFetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
e class
uh for your information, an 07 would be at most a 1.5 years old right now. An 08 would be at most 7 months old right now. You think that's why the problems have not occurred yet ? hmmmmmmmm ya think just maybe it's too early to tell ?

Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
The above is definitely not true on the '07s & '08s. It is unfortunate that MB let it be true on the '03s - '06s.
Old 07-16-2008, 08:31 PM
  #5  
Out Of Control!!
 
konigstiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: North Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 15,903
Received 4,415 Likes on 3,145 Posts
'71 Pinto
Originally Posted by shaunls1
its stumping me and the dealer so is this just due to the cars age or what?
Mention DTB P-B-27.20/78 AUG06 the torque converter clutch may be malfunctioning. In addition, request they update the ECU to the latest software version.
Old 07-16-2008, 09:58 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Polar Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,691
Received 138 Likes on 93 Posts
W221 S600, W220 S55 AMG Kompressor, W124 300E, W140 S320, W210 E3204M W164 ML320 Bluetec
Originally Posted by EclassFetish
uh for your information, an 07 would be at most a 1.5 years old right now. An 08 would be at most 7 months old right now. You think that's why the problems have not occurred yet ? hmmmmmmmm ya think just maybe it's too early to tell ?
Considering he has owned both I would think he would have a pretty good idea.

If we all wanted to drive appliances we would all own a Lexus.
Old 07-16-2008, 10:10 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
MBNUT1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 4,081
Received 938 Likes on 685 Posts
2010 E350 4Matic
If I wanted a good nap I would drive a Lexuzzzzzz
Old 07-16-2008, 11:19 PM
  #8  
Super Member
 
gnma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 612
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
'12 Mustang 5.0, '89 Supra Turbo, C55,
Originally Posted by EclassFetish
my 2001 Lexus LS430 with 118,000 miles hasn't had a single glitch ever....the sad part of all this is that I feel more secure and confident of a lexus with 100,000 miles than I do of a brand new mercedes with ZERO miles. It's sad.
Be thankful you have an older Lexus. The new 460 seems to be giving its owners a problem which they refer to as "intake valve noise". LExus dealers are saying its "normal", but there seems to be a TSB now to rectify the bad design:

http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...ic=42932&st=15
Old 07-16-2008, 11:31 PM
  #9  
Super Member
 
csumt76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
LS7 powered Corvette
Originally Posted by konigstiger
Mention DTB P-B-27.20/78 AUG06 the torque converter clutch may be malfunctioning. In addition, request they update the ECU to the latest software version.
Sounds like a good starting point.
Old 07-17-2008, 12:36 AM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Barry45RPM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Area, USA
Posts: 5,017
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts
2015 ML 350
Nope its not too soon. My '04 was in the shop at 6 weeks and every 6 weeks thereafter for a week to 10 days. (I've driven more loaner cars than anyone on this Forum) The difference in the 2 cars is stunning. Look at the requests for help with weird problems on the forum now as compared to 3-5 years ago. There used to be a real air of desperation and frustration with the posts. The board is more of a social hall now. Even the problems with the '06s are minimal. Its all with the '03 to '05s... even though some of those owners are not being tortured. (I believe the problems in the early cars were fewer in cars that were bone stock or lightly optioned.)

There's no way I can convince you of this, so I'll leave it at this... I repeat... the 211 of '07 & onward is a superbly designed exciting, sporty, and safe high quality car. I'm glad I own one...
Old 07-17-2008, 01:12 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Polar Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,691
Received 138 Likes on 93 Posts
W221 S600, W220 S55 AMG Kompressor, W124 300E, W140 S320, W210 E3204M W164 ML320 Bluetec
Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
(I believe the problems in the early cars were fewer in cars that were bone stock or lightly optioned.)
I would agree with that. The quirks I have had on my car are from the heavy equipment that it has (Electronic Trunk Closer, Keyless Go).

Other than that it has been great.
Old 07-17-2008, 01:16 AM
  #12  
Member
 
EclassFetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
e class
oh c'mon now. it's not that boring.

but benz is the clear leader in exterior design. the CLS is wicked.

Originally Posted by MBNUT1
If I wanted a good nap I would drive a Lexuzzzzzz
Old 07-17-2008, 01:17 AM
  #13  
Member
 
EclassFetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
e class
konigster u are the man! thanks for all your help....and you drive a CLS!! WOW!

Originally Posted by konigstiger
Mention DTB P-B-27.20/78 AUG06 the torque converter clutch may be malfunctioning. In addition, request they update the ECU to the latest software version.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: help! me and the dealer is stumped!!!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:49 PM.