ap10046

Guys HELP!! Please!!
Got the Euro COMAND (APS)
Have the CD20. Was told it would be a straight in fit!! Yah, the size maybe.. the connector at the back of the APS is TEENIE!! the one on the CD20 is huge with lots of connectors as in the pic...where did I go wrong guys?
Is there any harness that i may need to get to make this work?
Thanks!!

Diesel Benz

I would want to say that you should have done some homework before buying the Comand but I don't as it doesn't help any more.

There is no adapter harness because the Comand always needs an AGW at the trunk, it is the audio amplifier and has speaker wiring. AGW also takes the radio antenna cable. Your current Audio 20 CD unit has the radio tuner and audio amplifier integrated.

You could buy an AGW unit but it still takes a lot of wiring to be done (from front to back, and probably vice versa). Now that people are installing NTG2.5 units, ebay may have cheap AGWs. But the NTG2.5 Comand would have been the right choice for you, it still likely is. This would give you hard drive based navigation (for your current Comand you would still need the trunk navi processor), BT handsfree, voice control I believe and it is almost a plug and play installation (see old posts on that).

ap10046

If I get an AGW, there's one going cheap on fleabay, what about the harness? Ebay uk has them but they are like 500 bucks???? For some wire?????
I would like to put it in the car, so how do I go about it from now on??

MB211

More than "some wire":

18 speaker wires, 2 can wires, power/ground/most wake up, MOST cables, nav ant lead, am/fm ant leads---

or you may be able to just plug in a ntg2.5 COMAND and install a bluetooth ant ($25) and Nav retrofit ant (tapes b/h cluster $35) and call it a day!

MB211

I do have a HK AGW f/s...make an offer!! Also a CDC that is MP3 enabled....

ap10046

Sorry MB211, was just really frustrated because, I was assured it would be a plug in.
Waited a long time and paid a lot for it, so very disappointed.
If I got the AGW from you, what about the harness?
What would you want for it please?

Polar Bear

I would highly encourage you to rethink your idea and place your COMAND back on the market and search for the NTG 2.5.

ap10046

Hi PB,
The thing is, being in Bombay, I have to deal with NASTY customs and taxes and have to depend on someones good favor to carry it down for me.
I kid you not, I would have to pay $500 in duty!
That's the only reason I have to make do with what I have now
I could sneak in the agw because its small and they wouldn't have a clue what on earth it is.
Wires would pose no problem, but if they saw a LCD!!

Polar Bear

It will be an in-depth job to do this install. I don't know your skill level, but even for a seasoned installer this would take some time and effort to complete. Just a heads up.

ap10046

The install would be done at a friends place who runs a rockford, mb quart and boston dealership. I had reverse sensors installed in quite literally 10mins
The install is not what I'm worried about, I'm worried that, after I get the agw and the harness, it may not work still.

Polar Bear

I have not personally performed this installation, but what MB211 said sounds like it would be spot on. I see no reason it would not work, but you will essentially need to rewire the entire sound system and change the MOST ring (which you will need to have SDS coded), and you will likely run into items you need along the way that you do not have, which is not a very convenient thing to do while your car is disassembled.

ap10046

PB, apart from the AGW and the wiring would I require anything else? I don't need the Nav part because there is no nav dvd for this region.
Where would the cd changer fibre optic cable and the radio FM cable go if the AWG is in the trunk
How much would I get if I sold my COMAND? And how much would a NTG2.5 cost me? .

Diesel Benz

The FM antenna cable would go to the AGW because the tuner is there.

The CDC would be as today, in the fibre loop next to the head unit.

Polar Bear

Not sure if you would need any additional parts or not, but you would need to make sure the AGW worked with your car and region - the US version AGWs do not tune to RoW frequencies correctly in some cases. You would also need to get the correct AGW based on if you have H/K or not.

I don't know how much you would get if you sold your COMAND - I have seen them sell as low as $800USD and some for much more - $1200 or more.

Anything is doable, but since the NTG 2.5 is plug and play for the most part, and is a much better system it sounds like the money you save by not purchasing all of the wiring, AGW, and installation labor could be put toward the NTG 2.5 unit and you would end up with a much better system overall, with a DVD changer.

ap10046

Its a Euro COMAND with VIM and Mp3.

MB211

I have the factory AM/FM ant cable to go from the ant amp (LR c-pillar) to the AWG. You would need to extend all the speaker wires to the AGW and reroute the 2 CAN wires to the AGW. The AGW would also have to be on the MOST ring (2 fiber optic and 1 wake-up)---these 3 wires may already be in trunk?---

Funny----I spent an entire day wiring my car to how yours came factory to install a NTG2.5 radio---it would be very much easier.

I would take $450 for the AGW (I can throw in the 2 ant cables and the wire connectors that I cut off)

Polar Bear

Would he still need an amp for the NTG 2.5?

MB211

Step by step instructions:

WIS Doc= an82.61-p-0004tb

www.startekinfo.com

MB211

The NTG COMAND supports speaker level output like the Audio20 does....

AMGTestDriverNJ

contact Steve @ MBenzNL I'm sure he can sort that out for you.

ap10046

The NTG2.5 costs $2,500????????????????

ap10046

Has anyone tried to do this before and succeeded? Any "how to do its?"

ap10046

Is this what I need??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...3A1|240%3A1318

ap10046

and this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mercedes-E-Cla...QQcmdZViewItem

Polar Bear

Looks like it, but the AGW is a US version. Do we use the same FM/AM frequencies you do?

The harness looks like it would save you some time.