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License Plate screws won't hold.... Can pull the Plate right off

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Old 09-01-2009, 09:42 PM
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License Plate screws won't hold.... Can pull the Plate right off

Trying to finally put my Plates on my Car (have Dealer ones on still), and realize the screws can be pulled completely out, and shoved in, which explains why my plate has sounded "loose" when I close my trunk, which also in turn has scratched up the area under where the frame's edge rubs against (which you can't see fortunately).

Am I gonna need to get a while new Trunk clip thing now? Warranty better cover this, I'm getting tired of all the little tiny annoyances that keep popping up!
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I have the same problem. My top right screw hole is stripped and won't hold the screw. I have these nice Auto Steigler chrome metal plates that I can't put on, I have to leave my non-chrome MB Beverly Hills ones with one screw on top left and one screw on bottom right. It is a pain in the a*s. Idk that a longer screw would even make a difference.
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god......what is with these license plate frames? i recently purchased my car and noticed the same thing. the screws in the top holes were just hanging on. i removed the frame to put a new one on and found that they were stripped. i had to put them on the bottom holes. does this happen a lot. i mean.........in comparison.......i have taken out the screws on my eleven year old lexus every time i put the new year on and never had a problem.
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Don't use wood screws. Check with someone that knows what they are taking about.

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Originally Posted by AmazinglySmooth
I think you need fatter, wood screws. Home Depot or Lowes can hook you up.
NO! NO! NO! The screws in the rear plate mount are Metric size, not SAE, and definitely NOT wood screws of any kind. Furthermore The screws needed are a different thickness on the 03>06's than the ones on the 07, 08, & 09s. Be sure the dealer gave you the right ones.

The things that the screws go into on the 03>06s located inside the holes are replaceable in case they are stripped. On the '07> the license plate is affixed to an aluminum plate bracket which itself has been pre-fastened to the trunk lid.

This is a simple fix without resorting to hackery. If all the holes are "stripped", I bet you have the wrong screws.

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Good to know. I was gonna say, if they had to replace that whole piece (that houses the chrome strip) with a new one, which would obviously mean it would need to get painted (meaning non Factory applied paint, worry toward if it'll match perfectly, etc.) I would probably consider getting the F.L piece with the long chrome strip put on, although I'd have to put some thought into that as I'm not sure I like it better.... At least I'd feel like I got some compensation for the annoyance.
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The threaded inserts are metric and the size is M5.

Try correct screw (never a "wood screw" or "sheet metal" screw) before determining the threaded inserts require replacement.
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If in need of replacement: mounting plate part 1698170211 (for comparison shopping, parts.com $29.90), four 5x12 screws 0019904236 (.57 each).
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so.......to replace this its not that big of a deal?
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Seems like all the posters with this problem are from California. Could it be that residents and dealers in that state have the same aptitude with hardware and tools as they have with their State's finances???
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Originally Posted by sosh
Seems like all the posters with this problem are from California. Could it be that residents and dealers in that state have the same aptitude with hardware and tools as they have with their State's finances???
Lol, I would not be surprised. The state deserves to go bankrupt IMO. Took our money all these years and can't run anything correctly. Thank God the fire departments out here know what to do or else the whole place would be ablaze (at least there is something that works well).

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Originally Posted by gaazmon
Lol, I would not be surprised. The state deserves to go bankrupt IMO. Took our money all these years and can't run anything correctly. Thank God the fire departments out here know what to do or else the whole place would be ablaze (at least there is something that works well).

The whole place IS ablaze!!! (At least a good portion of it...)

Anyway, yes, I share your frustration with the inefficiencies of CA's government... but having it go bankrupt would only mean CA residents have to pay even MORE, right? It seems like no matter what they do, we always pay more...
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Originally Posted by lkchris
The threaded inserts are metric and the size is M5.

Try correct screw (never a "wood screw" or "sheet metal" screw) before determining the threaded inserts require replacement.
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If in need of replacement: mounting plate part 1698170211 (for comparison shopping, parts.com $29.90), four 5x12 screws 0019904236 (.57 each).

The correct screws to use for your license plate should be freely available at your MB dealer. If your local MB dealer doesn't have the correct screws available, you can try FJNB (that's where I got my screws for free, and I know they are the correct ones... at least for the later model E-Classes that use the chrome mounting plates).

Worse comes to worse, you can go to your nearest Home Depot or Lowes and have them match the correct screw for you. It would help if you had one "correct" screw to match with, but if not, you can just write down the correct measurements... I think mine took a M6 (6mm x 10mm), and then test it out in the parking lot. If it doesn't screw in without effort, then walk back in and exchange it for a different size. (If you are 100% sure your threads are stripped and NO screw works, then get them replaced before finding the proper screws to mount your plate.)


EDIT: I probably should add that while FJNB had a bunch of domehead machine screws that worked fine, but my custom license plate frame only has top holes and no bottom holes, so I had to search for flathead machine screws for the bottom (otherwise my plate frame wouldn't sit flush to the bottom of the plate, and it would look ugly). I got my threads matched at Home Depot, and found flathead versions of the screws I needed, and that was that. Cost me under $1 for 3 screws (just needed 2).

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There is a tool called a tap, and it costs just a few dollars, at your local hardware store. If your threads are stripped, you can re-tap the threads by buying the tap and the correct size re-threading attachment. As others have said, Mercedes uses metric threaded machine screws, not self-tapping screws. This is not a big deal, and you don't need a new trunk lid. If your threads aren't stripped, you just need to buy the correct metric sized screws. You should make sure you get stainless steel screws, or you might not be able to remove them later.
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Originally Posted by chokaay
The whole place IS ablaze!!! (At least a good portion of it...)
Ya, I can see the La Canada Flintridge fires pretty well from here since I can get a good view of the 118 and 210 area. The air really sucks by my work. From what I can literally see, well... I can't see the fires anymore from my house so I'm guessing it's better now. I don't see much smoke from my house either so hopefully things are looking up.

You must be near the Palos Verdes fire.
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Ya, I can see the La Canada Flintridge fires pretty well from here since I can get a good view of the 118 and 210 area. The air really sucks by my work. From what I can literally see, well... I can't see the fires anymore from my house so I'm guessing it's better now. I don't see much smoke from my house either so hopefully things are looking up.

You must be near the Palos Verdes fire.

Luckily I'm not too close to any fire (this time around)... closer to the Costa Mesa/Newport area. But driving around, you definitely can feel the heat and see the huge mushroom clouds coming from the north/east! Hope everyone is OK up there...
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Originally Posted by sosh
Seems like all the posters with this problem are from California. Could it be that residents and dealers in that state have the same aptitude with hardware and tools as they have with their State's finances???

Not everyone... but perhaps a number of "lazy" dealers only stock self-tapping screws (for mounting the front plate bracket to the front bumper), and just use the same screws on the back (even though you're not supposed to). That's one of the "perks" for CA being a state that requires front plates (and lately enforcing it more strictly in certain areas)... although I still see a ton of cars driving without their front plates on...
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Originally Posted by chokaay
Luckily I'm not too close to any fire (this time around)... closer to the Costa Mesa/Newport area. But driving around, you definitely can feel the heat and see the huge mushroom clouds coming from the north/east! Hope everyone is OK up there...
Well, the air by work work looks better now and I'm right by the 405 and close to the 210, so looks like things are getting better hopefully.

Back on topic, I think my screws are too short and that is why they are falling out.

I hate having a front plate. I wish we didn't have to.
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Originally Posted by gaazmon
I hate having a front plate. I wish we didn't have to.


Honestly, on my 2009 E350, I wish we didn't have to have front plates either... but with it on doesn't look THAT bad (unlike some other cars).

But remember there are some cars that NEED a front plate to look "good"... like the Lexus LS600h... without a front plate the bumper just looks way to big and flat in the middle... doesn't look good.
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Originally Posted by chokaay
Honestly, on my 2009 E350, I wish we didn't have to have front plates either... but with it on doesn't look THAT bad (unlike some other cars).

But remember there are some cars that NEED a front plate to look "good"... like the Lexus LS600h... without a front plate the bumper just looks way to big and flat in the middle... doesn't look good.
Ya, it sucks on the facelifted E's as the bumper is sharp so you have to literally bend the plate.

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