Oil Change & "Reduce Oil Level" Reading
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Oil Change & "Reduce Oil Level" Reading
Changed my oil+filter today on my 2003 E500 went through the following procedure and now when I checked my oil level it saids "Reduce Oil Level"
1. Before Starting - I checked oil level through instrument panel - it was ok.
2. Removed oil filter.
3. From topside used vacuum pump unit to remove oil through the oil tube located near the passenger side firewall. Note: Was definitely oil and not transmission fluid. Actually got around 8.4 quarts out using vacuum unit - know this because I filled (2) one gallon milk jugs (total 8 quarts) plus had a residual of a little less than 1/2 quart extra totaling around 8.4 quarts.
4. After refilling 4 quarts - checked instrument panel and said I needed 2 more quarts (which was wrong - off by over 2 quarts). Put another quart in and said I needed 1.5 quarts and had put a total of 5 quarts into the system (accounting for about 1/2 quart I poured into the filter cannister before reinstalling new filter.
6. Put anothe quart in (now total of 6 quarts) and tried to check the oil level and said that it was protected with some sort of battery protection and did not give me a reading . . .
7. In total put 8 quarts back into the system (should be a little short of 1/2 quart) - checked for leaks and then drove car and came back, let car sit and checked the oil level and it said "reduce oil level".
8. Have taken 1 additional short trip and got same reading when I checked it throught the instrument panel.
My question is this - How accurate is the instrument panel oil check? How can I get a ok reading before starting, remove around 8.4 quarts of oil, put 8 quarts of oil back into the system and now get a "reduce oil level" reading. Input much appreciated.
1. Before Starting - I checked oil level through instrument panel - it was ok.
2. Removed oil filter.
3. From topside used vacuum pump unit to remove oil through the oil tube located near the passenger side firewall. Note: Was definitely oil and not transmission fluid. Actually got around 8.4 quarts out using vacuum unit - know this because I filled (2) one gallon milk jugs (total 8 quarts) plus had a residual of a little less than 1/2 quart extra totaling around 8.4 quarts.
4. After refilling 4 quarts - checked instrument panel and said I needed 2 more quarts (which was wrong - off by over 2 quarts). Put another quart in and said I needed 1.5 quarts and had put a total of 5 quarts into the system (accounting for about 1/2 quart I poured into the filter cannister before reinstalling new filter.
6. Put anothe quart in (now total of 6 quarts) and tried to check the oil level and said that it was protected with some sort of battery protection and did not give me a reading . . .
7. In total put 8 quarts back into the system (should be a little short of 1/2 quart) - checked for leaks and then drove car and came back, let car sit and checked the oil level and it said "reduce oil level".
8. Have taken 1 additional short trip and got same reading when I checked it throught the instrument panel.
My question is this - How accurate is the instrument panel oil check? How can I get a ok reading before starting, remove around 8.4 quarts of oil, put 8 quarts of oil back into the system and now get a "reduce oil level" reading. Input much appreciated.
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I dont think much of the electronic gage. I have had that same fault come up (2003 E320), mainly after highway driving with the engine thoroughly warmed. If you are truly 8 quarts in, I would ignore it. You can have the sending unit checked / replaced. I ordered a dipstick. Such a simple task made needlessly complicated by a desire to offer the end user a better mousetrap. I believe the sump on your 500 motor actually holds 8 quarts? The V-6 needs 8.5. Intuitively, that does not compute.
PS the oil filter housing makes an excellent funnel and you can add all of the oil through it. Much easier than trying to bullseye that weeny filler tube with a funnel tipping every which way. BTW the sending unit never showed that error code again and I have changed the oil/ filter at least 3-4 times since with 8.5 quarts from the get go.
PS the oil filter housing makes an excellent funnel and you can add all of the oil through it. Much easier than trying to bullseye that weeny filler tube with a funnel tipping every which way. BTW the sending unit never showed that error code again and I have changed the oil/ filter at least 3-4 times since with 8.5 quarts from the get go.
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Changed my oil+filter today on my 2003 E500 went through the following procedure and now when I checked my oil level it saids "Reduce Oil Level"
1. Before Starting - I checked oil level through instrument panel - it was ok.
2. Removed oil filter.
3. From topside used vacuum pump unit to remove oil through the oil tube located near the passenger side firewall. Note: Was definitely oil and not transmission fluid. Actually got around 8.4 quarts out using vacuum unit - know this because I filled (2) one gallon milk jugs (total 8 quarts) plus had a residual of a little less than 1/2 quart extra totaling around 8.4 quarts.
4. After refilling 4 quarts - checked instrument panel and said I needed 2 more quarts (which was wrong - off by over 2 quarts). Put another quart in and said I needed 1.5 quarts and had put a total of 5 quarts into the system (accounting for about 1/2 quart I poured into the filter cannister before reinstalling new filter.
6. Put anothe quart in (now total of 6 quarts) and tried to check the oil level and said that it was protected with some sort of battery protection and did not give me a reading . . .
7. In total put 8 quarts back into the system (should be a little short of 1/2 quart) - checked for leaks and then drove car and came back, let car sit and checked the oil level and it said "reduce oil level".
8. Have taken 1 additional short trip and got same reading when I checked it throught the instrument panel.
My question is this - How accurate is the instrument panel oil check? How can I get a ok reading before starting, remove around 8.4 quarts of oil, put 8 quarts of oil back into the system and now get a "reduce oil level" reading. Input much appreciated.
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1. Before Starting - I checked oil level through instrument panel - it was ok.
2. Removed oil filter.
3. From topside used vacuum pump unit to remove oil through the oil tube located near the passenger side firewall. Note: Was definitely oil and not transmission fluid. Actually got around 8.4 quarts out using vacuum unit - know this because I filled (2) one gallon milk jugs (total 8 quarts) plus had a residual of a little less than 1/2 quart extra totaling around 8.4 quarts.
4. After refilling 4 quarts - checked instrument panel and said I needed 2 more quarts (which was wrong - off by over 2 quarts). Put another quart in and said I needed 1.5 quarts and had put a total of 5 quarts into the system (accounting for about 1/2 quart I poured into the filter cannister before reinstalling new filter.
6. Put anothe quart in (now total of 6 quarts) and tried to check the oil level and said that it was protected with some sort of battery protection and did not give me a reading . . .
7. In total put 8 quarts back into the system (should be a little short of 1/2 quart) - checked for leaks and then drove car and came back, let car sit and checked the oil level and it said "reduce oil level".
8. Have taken 1 additional short trip and got same reading when I checked it throught the instrument panel.
My question is this - How accurate is the instrument panel oil check? How can I get a ok reading before starting, remove around 8.4 quarts of oil, put 8 quarts of oil back into the system and now get a "reduce oil level" reading. Input much appreciated.
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But wouldn't a topside pump miss the heavy oil deposits that would normally drain out (when dropping the drain plug)? Especially since you can't move the suction pipe around in the sump. It's going to suck from one spot.
At least with draining, gravity helps move the oil towards the plug.
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At least with draining, gravity helps move the oil towards the plug.
Just my $1.08
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But wouldn't a topside pump miss the heavy oil deposits that would normally drain out (when dropping the drain plug)? Especially since you can't move the suction pipe around in the sump. It's going to suck from one spot.
At least with draining, gravity helps move the oil towards the plug.
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At least with draining, gravity helps move the oil towards the plug.
Just my $1.08
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Update after night of sitting
Got into car this morning, and checked the oil electronically and oil level checked "ok". Don't know if adding new oil affected the reading even after sitting originally, but after it sat overnight, seems to be checking okay now.
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Put a level on the garage floor and check level. I changed mine again this week with topsider and added 8 qts vs 8.5. I have had no alarm and I believe there was a small amount of oil the topsider didn't remove. I am ok being 1/2 qt down with only 8 qts. After all I drive my corvette cross country with only 6 1/2 qts total.