Main battery Replacement
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If you qualify, you will have MB roadside assistance coming to your place and replace the battery free of charge.
If you go to MB service center - they will charge you in the range of $100 labor. That will be pretty expensive coffee.
Last time I bought Bosch flooded battery at PepBoys it was about $95 with 90 months warranty. No coffee and even if they would offer installation, I would strongly decline.
Ignition computer is too expensive on those cars to let guys with 1 month training to deal with it.
Bottom line, $146 for battery who will last about 4 years, or $95 for one that will last closer to 10 years.
You better scratch your head.
If you go to MB service center - they will charge you in the range of $100 labor. That will be pretty expensive coffee.
Last time I bought Bosch flooded battery at PepBoys it was about $95 with 90 months warranty. No coffee and even if they would offer installation, I would strongly decline.
Ignition computer is too expensive on those cars to let guys with 1 month training to deal with it.
Bottom line, $146 for battery who will last about 4 years, or $95 for one that will last closer to 10 years.
You better scratch your head.
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Pepboys used to install the battery for free, but they now charge for it just because it's in the trunk and because they can. That's why I'd go to Advance Auto, the pricing is better there anyway.
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You should get vented battery for those cars, with hose that will vent the gas outside.
If you fit wrong battery, than you are in troubles.
Read what AMG batteries were made for. The car application does not warrant using them and sadly with much higher prices they seem to last shorter than flooded battery.
We had MB flooded battery lasting 13 years in Mclass. There is member with 17 years old W210 and factory battery in it.
The 9 years old AMG is the longest living I heard about.
If you fit wrong battery, than you are in troubles.
Read what AMG batteries were made for. The car application does not warrant using them and sadly with much higher prices they seem to last shorter than flooded battery.
We had MB flooded battery lasting 13 years in Mclass. There is member with 17 years old W210 and factory battery in it.
The 9 years old AMG is the longest living I heard about.
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While hot weather does shorten the life span, many find in the winter the inability to start and replace it when it would be fine in warmer weather. Under hood heat does most of the killing, which isn't the case in W211's. All my other cars are battery under the hood in the examples listed.
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While hot weather does shorten the life span, many find in the winter the inability to start and replace it when it would be fine in warmer weather. Under hood heat does most of the killing, which isn't the case in W211's. All my other cars are battery under the hood in the examples listed.
All the parking spots in multi-level garage were taken, so he park it on the roof.
2 hr later the car would have no power.
The sun cooked the battery inside the trunk. His is 2007 E350, so I think he had AMG
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Well.... my friend took his black, 2 years old at the time W211 to Las Vegas in summer.
All the parking spots in multi-level garage were taken, so he park it on the roof.
2 hr later the car would have no power.
The sun cooked the battery inside the trunk. His is 2007 E350, so I think he had AMG
All the parking spots in multi-level garage were taken, so he park it on the roof.
2 hr later the car would have no power.
The sun cooked the battery inside the trunk. His is 2007 E350, so I think he had AMG
The fact still remains that on a 120 day outside in the sun, the cars interior can easily reach 170-180 degrees but the trunk will never get as high as the cabin. Under hood temperatures are routinely 200+ degrees, hotter than the interior will ever get. A 2 year old battery can be defective, I had a battery in a van of mine for less than 24 hrs before the van caught fire in a parking lot at 4 AM with nobody near it.
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Don't worry about him. He's always saying things like that. There are many threads with people whose AGM battery last 8-10 years and he doesn't believe any of them. He likes to talk about how his Spanish flooded battery lasts 13 years. Nice anecdote but useless in the real world. He's always taking the exception for the rule. It's a common logical fallacy. Probably why he got banned in the other forum.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
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Don't worry about him. He's always saying things like that. There are many threads with people whose AGM battery last 8-10 years and he doesn't believe any of them. He likes to talk about how his Spanish flooded battery lasts 13 years. Nice anecdote but useless in the real world. He's always taking the exception for the rule. It's a common logical fallacy. Probably why he got banned in the other forum.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
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Don't worry about him. He's always saying things like that. There are many threads with people whose AGM battery last 8-10 years and he doesn't believe any of them. He likes to talk about how his Spanish flooded battery lasts 13 years. Nice anecdote but useless in the real world. He's always taking the exception for the rule. It's a common logical fallacy. Probably why he got banned in the other forum.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
The longest I've ever had a flooded battery last was about 8 years, most of them died in the 4-6 year range.
I was not banned on benzworld.
I was voted out of W211 section by spammers and trolls selling batteries and other stuff, where my experience was screwing up their business.
New owners sure make constructive dispute there very hard if not impossible.
Your experience shows only what kind of decisions you make in your life.
When batteries with 100 and 90 months warranties are available for at least a decade, you chose those who die in less than 6 years.
Enough said.
Last edited by kajtek1; Feb 25, 2016 at 07:45 PM.
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I always try to be helpful and will change my tune if other things come to light. I'm not banned on the other forum, I still post there and it's a lot more quiet. You on the other hand had many battles with these other so called trolls and spammers. It makes people wonder who the real trolls and spammers were.
Here's something you might find surprising, they don't sell 90 and 100 month warranties in my state. Must be a state thing. The most anyone sells in this state is 3 years. Also the last time I had a battery that was still under the original pro-rated warranty, it was useless because they take the pro-rated amount off the list price of a new battery and wouldn't let you use a coupon code whereas it was just cheaper to just buy a new one with a coupon code. I don't really want to get into a long battle with you because it's a waste of time.
Are you really being helpful if many people disagree with you and you don't have the backing to support your positions? The only thing you ever post is anecdotes. The scientific method is based on repeatable, reproducible results.
Here's something you might find surprising, they don't sell 90 and 100 month warranties in my state. Must be a state thing. The most anyone sells in this state is 3 years. Also the last time I had a battery that was still under the original pro-rated warranty, it was useless because they take the pro-rated amount off the list price of a new battery and wouldn't let you use a coupon code whereas it was just cheaper to just buy a new one with a coupon code. I don't really want to get into a long battle with you because it's a waste of time.
Are you really being helpful if many people disagree with you and you don't have the backing to support your positions? The only thing you ever post is anecdotes. The scientific method is based on repeatable, reproducible results.
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You keep spreading wide propaganda, while you always deny real life facts.
I was not banned on benzworld.
I was voted out of W211 section by spammers and trolls selling batteries and other stuff, where my experience was screwing up their business.
New owners sure make constructive dispute there very hard if not impossible.
Your experience shows only what kind of decisions you make in your life.
When batteries with 100 and 90 months warranties are available for at least a decade, you chose those who die in less than 6 years.
Enough said.
I was not banned on benzworld.
I was voted out of W211 section by spammers and trolls selling batteries and other stuff, where my experience was screwing up their business.
New owners sure make constructive dispute there very hard if not impossible.
Your experience shows only what kind of decisions you make in your life.
When batteries with 100 and 90 months warranties are available for at least a decade, you chose those who die in less than 6 years.
Enough said.
I always try to be helpful and will change my tune if other things come to light. I'm not banned on the other forum, I still post there and it's a lot more quiet. You on the other hand had many battles with these other so called trolls and spammers. It makes people wonder who the real trolls and spammers were.
Here's something you might find surprising, they don't sell 90 and 100 month warranties in my state. Must be a state thing. The most anyone sells in this state is 3 years. Also the last time I had a battery that was still under the original pro-rated warranty, it was useless because they take the pro-rated amount off the list price of a new battery and wouldn't let you use a coupon code whereas it was just cheaper to just buy a new one with a coupon code. I don't really want to get into a long battle with you because it's a waste of time.
Are you really being helpful if many people disagree with you and you don't have the backing to support your positions? The only thing you ever post is anecdotes. The scientific method is based on repeatable, reproducible results.
Here's something you might find surprising, they don't sell 90 and 100 month warranties in my state. Must be a state thing. The most anyone sells in this state is 3 years. Also the last time I had a battery that was still under the original pro-rated warranty, it was useless because they take the pro-rated amount off the list price of a new battery and wouldn't let you use a coupon code whereas it was just cheaper to just buy a new one with a coupon code. I don't really want to get into a long battle with you because it's a waste of time.
Are you really being helpful if many people disagree with you and you don't have the backing to support your positions? The only thing you ever post is anecdotes. The scientific method is based on repeatable, reproducible results.
If there is such a thing as a 100 month pro-rated warranty and you're buying those, congratulations, you're the perfect consumer. You fell for it. They know it won't last that long but you can't get that pro-rated discount without buying another just like it. So, they're offering you a 10% discount on a 200% markup knowing you'll take the bait. They will have a never ending streak of sales because of a sales tactic.
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You guys are bringing spamming to level higher than Plutoe ever did.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 36/96 months warranty,
AMG offer 48 warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 36/96 months warranty,
AMG offer 48 warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
Last edited by kajtek1; Feb 25, 2016 at 09:02 PM.
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LOL,
AGM!
Having designed DC supply systems, not using and AGM battery is foolish (providing they charging system is designed for it.)
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You guys are bringing spamming to level higher than Plutoe ever did.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 96 months prorated warranty,
AMG offer 48 prorated warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 96 months prorated warranty,
AMG offer 48 prorated warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
The 4 year on the AGM battery is not pro-rated. It's just a 3 year non prorated on the flooded battery. Pepboys occasionally offers a 35% off coupon code, but that seems to be around black friday and Christmas, their discounts seem to vary between 15-30% normally. Also did you notice that they charge about $97 to install the battery? At that rate, you mind as well go to the dealer or just go to a store like Autozone or Advance Auto who will install it for free.
Also even their website claims that AGM batteries last up to 2x longer than flooded batteries.
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...ries_text-link
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Do you know anything about statistics? One battery that has 42 reviews vs one that has 10, I don't even bother reading them. Not statistically significant when millions of batteries are sold every year.
The only one trying to sell AMG is you. Try thinking Absorbed Glass Mat instead.
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You guys are bringing spamming to level higher than Plutoe ever did.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 36/96 months warranty,
AMG offer 48 warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
Congratulations.
Here is current page with batteries for W211.
Flooded batteries offer 36/96 months warranty,
AMG offer 48 warranty
https://www.pepboys.com/parts/batter...03.2L%2520SOHC
And yes, there are PepBoys in MA as you can see here http://storelocator.pepboys.com/pepb...on?place=01001
Maybe there is regional change in warranties, but that doesn't require trolling to explain.
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2014 ML63 AMG, 2012 McLaren MP4-12C, 1999 GMC Sierra, 1994 Chevy Astro, 1990 Honda CRX
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36 month replacement vs 48 month replacement, that in itself tells me what the manufacturer has more faith in. The manufacturer feels they won't have to replace the battery completely on their dime longer with AGM. You can pro-rate anything to get a sucker to buy it. Oh 96 months and I'll get 5% off a new battery?!?!?!
"sure you can tow this 15,000lb trailer with your F150"
Bad for you most of MB owners are educated guys and will not fall for primitive brainwashing.
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It has nothing to do with February.
I call it plain corruption.
When some sponsors do register as sponsors and do legitimate advertising here (although annoying) - others are trying to sneak their advertisement under the table.
The worse are "stunt men" who pose as fellow car enthusiast only after few good posts made to gain some trust - start sneaking "I used the XXX brand and it work good for me"
The trouble is that it takes some observation to tell honest car owner with experience from stuntman trying to brainwash you.
Than plain idiots can be found everywhere.
I call it plain corruption.
When some sponsors do register as sponsors and do legitimate advertising here (although annoying) - others are trying to sneak their advertisement under the table.
The worse are "stunt men" who pose as fellow car enthusiast only after few good posts made to gain some trust - start sneaking "I used the XXX brand and it work good for me"
The trouble is that it takes some observation to tell honest car owner with experience from stuntman trying to brainwash you.
Than plain idiots can be found everywhere.
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It has nothing to do with February.
I call it plain corruption.
When some sponsors do register as sponsors and do legitimate advertising here (although annoying) - others are trying to sneak their advertisement under the table.
The worse are "stunt men" who pose as fellow car enthusiast only after few good posts made to gain some trust - start sneaking "I used the XXX brand and it work good for me"
The trouble is that it takes some observation to tell honest car owner with experience from stuntman trying to brainwash you.
Than plain idiots can be found everywhere.
I call it plain corruption.
When some sponsors do register as sponsors and do legitimate advertising here (although annoying) - others are trying to sneak their advertisement under the table.
The worse are "stunt men" who pose as fellow car enthusiast only after few good posts made to gain some trust - start sneaking "I used the XXX brand and it work good for me"
The trouble is that it takes some observation to tell honest car owner with experience from stuntman trying to brainwash you.
Than plain idiots can be found everywhere.
Now, your comments seem to be insinuating that I don't own one, perhaps you should look at my other posts. There aren't many as I bought mine 2 weeks ago, and what do you know, most of the posts have nothing to do with batteries, or even electrical, or audio, or literally anything else I deal with every day.
Thought I gotta say, with how hard you're pushing lead acid batteries as the word of god, I've gotta assume one of 2 things: 1) You have stock in lead or 2) An AGM battery raped your family and pillaged your village.
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I don't want to enter the pissin' contest, but for the record: I replaced the OEM Varta AGM battery in my wife's '07 E350 yesterday with a Bosch AGM purchased for $247 at an MB dealership. This car came off the Bremen assembly line on December 14, 2006, and has started dependably and immediately many thousands of times since then and transported us more than 114,600 miles.
The Varta still had life in it ... probably good for the rest of this year, maybe more. But maybe not.
I don't want my wife to have to depend on an old battery "just one more one last time." If I wanted her to worry and wonder whether her car would dependably transport her, I would have bought her a GM or Chrysler product.
One more AGM note: up until a year ago, I rode Harley Road Kings for more than 30 years. The OEM HD batteries are OK ... no better than that. But I never had one last more than 2, maybe 3 (at the most) years. I replaced the factory batteries with AGM batteries; but I never replaced an AGM battery and never had one go south on me.
I don't know where, if at all, these comments place me on the AGM battery bell curves, but wherever you place me pencil me in with a smily face.
The Varta still had life in it ... probably good for the rest of this year, maybe more. But maybe not.
I don't want my wife to have to depend on an old battery "just one more one last time." If I wanted her to worry and wonder whether her car would dependably transport her, I would have bought her a GM or Chrysler product.
One more AGM note: up until a year ago, I rode Harley Road Kings for more than 30 years. The OEM HD batteries are OK ... no better than that. But I never had one last more than 2, maybe 3 (at the most) years. I replaced the factory batteries with AGM batteries; but I never replaced an AGM battery and never had one go south on me.
I don't know where, if at all, these comments place me on the AGM battery bell curves, but wherever you place me pencil me in with a smily face.
