I officially HATE SBC...worst brake system EVER!
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2005 E55 AMG
I officially HATE SBC...worst brake system EVER!
I've had nothing but problems from my SBC system and the dealer ( along with MB USA ) says it's not covered under their warranty due to the SBC pump it's self not being bad ( according to them ). I've had owned over 20 vehicles with basic ABS systems and they worked flawlessly...this is the first vehicle I've owned with a "different" brake system and it's horrid!
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
Last edited by GT-ER; Apr 27, 2011 at 12:01 PM.
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2005 E55 AMG
I unfortunately have no access to an SDS...only the dealer and they want $120 just to clear the codes ( with no diagnosing what-so-ever ). I have an autoenginuity scanner which can clear the codes but they all just come back immediately ( either that, or the scanner isn't clearing them for some reason ).
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2005 E55 AMG
Connected the batteries back and the errors are still there. Now my freaking radio won't turn on ( the screen displays the AMG logo and then shuts off ). This is getting ridiculous.
So far I have the airmatic clunk in the trunk noise, the fuel smell when I fill her up, SBC and TPMS are giving me trouble and now Comand is giving me issues. Anything else? And I've already fixed some of the other issues the car has had...all this in 4 months of ownership.
So far I have the airmatic clunk in the trunk noise, the fuel smell when I fill her up, SBC and TPMS are giving me trouble and now Comand is giving me issues. Anything else? And I've already fixed some of the other issues the car has had...all this in 4 months of ownership.
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From: Atlanta Georgia
2004 E55 AMG/2007 Cls 550
I've had nothing but problems from my SBC system and the dealer ( along with MB USA ) says it's not covered under their warranty due to the SBC pump it's self not being bad ( according to them ). I've had owned over 20 vehicles with basic ABS systems and they worked flawlessly...this is the first vehicle I've owned with a "different" brake system and it's horrid!
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
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The error you're receiving is probably due to an internal counter that the sbc pump has. If you've surpassed this count, I think it's like 30k pumps then you're supposed to get the pump replaced. MB USA has extended the warranty for this pump to 10 yrs. Mine expired just after the 10 year mark and MBA USA would not authorize a good will replacement due to my lack of service history at an authorized Benz dealer.
If you can't get mb USA to replace then you can either replace on your own dime or get a flashing tool (not das) that will reset that internal counter.
I have one of those tools if you're interested in purchasing it. I bought it for my old w211 but ended up traded it in for my new w212.
If you can't get mb USA to replace then you can either replace on your own dime or get a flashing tool (not das) that will reset that internal counter.
I have one of those tools if you're interested in purchasing it. I bought it for my old w211 but ended up traded it in for my new w212.
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E320 2005, 2001 S430, 2010 ML 350 4M, 2011 G550, 2015 c300 4M
This warranty has been extended to 25 years for SBC as of this year!
The error you're receiving is probably due to an internal counter that the sbc pump has. If you've surpassed this count, I think it's like 30k pumps then you're supposed to get the pump replaced. MB USA has extended the warranty for this pump to 10 yrs. Mine expired just after the 10 year mark and MBA USA would not authorize a good will replacement due to my lack of service history at an authorized Benz dealer.
If you can't get mb USA to replace then you can either replace on your own dime or get a flashing tool (not das) that will reset that internal counter.
I have one of those tools if you're interested in purchasing it. I bought it for my old w211 but ended up traded it in for my new w212.
If you can't get mb USA to replace then you can either replace on your own dime or get a flashing tool (not das) that will reset that internal counter.
I have one of those tools if you're interested in purchasing it. I bought it for my old w211 but ended up traded it in for my new w212.
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2006 E320 CDI
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From: Oklahoma
2006 E55 AMG
I keep on receiving codes 6210 (abs anti-lock braking system control) and 6230 (esp - electronic stability program control). Car is breaking just fine, but at one point it had a very sluggish response when brake pedal was pressed. Almost had no response to it.
contacted my local MB dealer and they said they need to diagnose it and see if SBS is the cause and that's $230.
contacted my local MB dealer and they said they need to diagnose it and see if SBS is the cause and that's $230.
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2003 E320
I've had nothing but problems from my SBC system and the dealer ( along with MB USA ) says it's not covered under their warranty due to the SBC pump it's self not being bad ( according to them ). I've had owned over 20 vehicles with basic ABS systems and they worked flawlessly...this is the first vehicle I've owned with a "different" brake system and it's horrid!
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
The car brakes fine, but I keep getting the annoying "BRAKE - Visit Workshop" message on my display ( not the red but the lesser black/white one ). At first I was told that it was the brake switch, no luck. Then I was told that it was the pads and sensors. I also changed them with no luck. Then I took it to the dealer to see if they would warranty the SBC and they said it was my pressure reservoir ( which I saw on the scanner that there was a code for the reservoir ). So, I changed the pressure reservoir and it STILL gives me the message.
The odd this is that the car brakes PERFECTLY. It just keeps giving the annoying error.
My recent codes have been the following:
SBC Controller=
C2230 (6230) ESP Electronic Stability Program Control
C2210 (6210) ABS Anti-Lock Braking System Control
C3211 (7211) DTR:The CAN Communication Of The Engine Control Module Is Faulty
This is with my Autoenginuity Scanner. I can't get these codes to go away no matter how hard I try to erase them.
Anyone have any other ideas?
Shut it off and waited a few minutes and then all was fine. Think its the SBC Pump going.
