HELP!!!!
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
HELP!!!!
ok, so i am backing up into my garage, i stop the car. noticed that i needed to go back a little more, so i started the car, as the car starts, i am pressing the brake and ingage the shifter reverse, there is a slight high pitch sound, and i turn off the motor. i restart, i noticed the engine is rocking back and forth, very rough idle, it's like the engine starts to die, then it would idle up high, then down, then high, then down and finally dies. i tried to start again with the same result. there is no check engine light and or errors on the intrument panel. what is wrong? how to fix?
#2
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
#3
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
Click this link...https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ml#post4733651
#4
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
thanks ski mieser,
i checked that, it wasn't that, it seems like the timing is off ??, and or not all cylinders are running? could it be the crank position sensor?
i checked that, it wasn't that, it seems like the timing is off ??, and or not all cylinders are running? could it be the crank position sensor?
#5
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
I was going to suggest the CPS but usually the car would not even be able to be driven.
Try the Techron Concentrate.
(not sure if you meant you tried that, or the Air Duct connections)
cheers!
Try the Techron Concentrate.
(not sure if you meant you tried that, or the Air Duct connections)
cheers!
#6
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
thanks ski mieser,
i also think that when i started the car the 2nd time to reverse, i might have been too quick, and had it in gear while the car was trying to start and idle which might have cause the timing to be off? so CPS then?
i also think that when i started the car the 2nd time to reverse, i might have been too quick, and had it in gear while the car was trying to start and idle which might have cause the timing to be off? so CPS then?
Trending Topics
#8
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
thanks ,
but the sad truth, was that i just filled it up, the other day, and just pulled it out the garage to wash it, then while puting the car back in the garage, is where this happens... can't think it might be the CPS though?
but the sad truth, was that i just filled it up, the other day, and just pulled it out the garage to wash it, then while puting the car back in the garage, is where this happens... can't think it might be the CPS though?
#9
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
Here is the part if you want to try it yourself.
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...196@Crankshaft Position Sensor
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...196@Crankshaft Position Sensor
#10
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
#11
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
thanks ski miezer,
also would you think that it's the egr valve? the engine is rock'n like i got a full blown hemi under the hood...Lol, i feel it's timing. also i hear a loud hissing sound????
also would you think that it's the egr valve? the engine is rock'n like i got a full blown hemi under the hood...Lol, i feel it's timing. also i hear a loud hissing sound????
Last edited by dacollector; 07-01-2011 at 02:07 PM.
#12
Member
Doesn't sound like CPS. When mine went bad, the car wouldn't crank at all.
Mass airflow sensor maybe??? But that'd throw codes. Your 'check engine' light isn't on, right?
Mass airflow sensor maybe??? But that'd throw codes. Your 'check engine' light isn't on, right?
#13
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
yup, the "check engine" light is not on, and there is no error codes on the instrument panel. due to the hissing, could it be a broken vacuum hose somewhere?
#14
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
well, checked all vacuum lines that i can see, and all seem ok... it starts ok, but can't idle, it would be very very rough, then it would die. i don't think it's driveable. could it now be the CPS?
#15
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal, USA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
95 s124 Estate, 69 911RS (tribute), 93 Toyota Pickup (DD)
I say CPS, my cousin had similar problem. Car died, wont start, let it sit for a while, and runs fine then stalls. Replaced the CPS and all's good. I believe he has around 120k miles on the car.
#16
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
thanks jdasgruv,
but what would have caused the screaching sound? like the belts slipped? i may just go out and buy that part as more than enough have said it was that. thanks
but what would have caused the screaching sound? like the belts slipped? i may just go out and buy that part as more than enough have said it was that. thanks
#17
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
well, finally got around to changing the CPS, and did the proper indexing, and still have the same problem. it shakes, during idle, then seems like the computer is trying to compensate,as the idle would rev up, then down, then up, then dies.. start it up again,and same problem...
#18
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cali
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2003 E500, 2004 S430 w/BT-Puck/Tail
Hmmm...Maybe a Fuel supply issue...clogged Fuel Filter?...did you try the Techron Concentrate. Remember I had a similar problem...felt like it would stall at Idle...used the Techron as the Dealer suggested and Bingo problem solved for $15.
#19
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal, USA
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
95 s124 Estate, 69 911RS (tribute), 93 Toyota Pickup (DD)
Screeching noise could be the tensioner pulley or the idler pulley going bad. But I don't think that would be the cause of your idle problem. Bad coil pack could cause ruff idle, should show up as a trouble code.
This might sound like a strange question. Do you have a fuel cap on the car, is it tight? You did say you washed your car?
This might sound like a strange question. Do you have a fuel cap on the car, is it tight? You did say you washed your car?
Last edited by ndasgruv; 07-09-2011 at 12:21 AM.
#22
MBWorld Fanatic!
well, finally got around to changing the CPS, and did the proper indexing, and still have the same problem. it shakes, during idle, then seems like the computer is trying to compensate,as the idle would rev up, then down, then up, then dies.. start it up again,and same problem...
Have your fuel pressure checked at the engine fuel rail. You could have a simple fuel pressure regulator or fuel pump problem.
When it runs or idles rough press the gas pedal and see if it just dies. If it does it probably is a fuel delivery issue.
#23
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
hi arrie,
thanks for your input, as the car idles, i press the gas, get it over 2000rpm, it seems to run/sound normal, every now and then, it would drop the rpm and seem to want to stall, so you maybe right. but also, there seem to be a unusually louder hissing sound as well that i can't pin point where it is coming from.
thanks for your input, as the car idles, i press the gas, get it over 2000rpm, it seems to run/sound normal, every now and then, it would drop the rpm and seem to want to stall, so you maybe right. but also, there seem to be a unusually louder hissing sound as well that i can't pin point where it is coming from.
#24
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: hawaii
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
13 E350 , 12 BMW 328i
so i finally got it checked out, put on the star diagnose, no error code, then they took off the plastic engine cover, and by the hissing sound from the back of the engine, there it was, the intake manifold warped and causing air to go into the engine (hissing sound ) due to corrosion, which he said is common based on the milage i have... wow, shouldn't this be a manufacuters defect?
#25
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 3,254
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes
on
12 Posts
03 E500 and Corvette
so i finally got it checked out, put on the star diagnose, no error code, then they took off the plastic engine cover, and by the hissing sound from the back of the engine, there it was, the intake manifold warped and causing air to go into the engine (hissing sound ) due to corrosion, which he said is common based on the milage i have... wow, shouldn't this be a manufacuters defect?