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Generally speaking, if the car were going to have a balance shaft issue, I would have thought it would certainly have done so by 134K miles. Remember, supposedly not every car within the affected engine range was fitted with bad parts. The percentage is subject to debate and MB will never say, but the estimate is in the 20-25% range.
I would check though instead of just assuming that you don't have a bad one, there are some people who come on here with high mileage that have the problem. I think it's either metal parts in the oil pan or you can take a few things apart and see if certain items are centered. There's a few youtube videos on how to check if you might be affected.
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
You won't get vibration or shaking with the balance shaft problem. You will get the check engine light and a loss of power (for me it was mostly a loss of low end torque) and decrease in gas mileage. It will probably get worse over the next few weeks/months. With your mileage it may not go down hill as fast as mine did (I got the problem in my '06 R350 at 110k miles).
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
I had the problem in 2006 c280. I have taken the engine apart you can see shaft is smooth where there should be a gear. I am selling the block cheap if anyone is interested. I ended up getting another engine off ebay and swapping them.
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Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
Your engine is within the affected serial number range. More than likely, you have the worn balance shaft gear issue.
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
I had the problem in 2006 c280. I have taken the engine apart you can see shaft is smooth where there should be a gear. I am selling the block cheap if anyone is interested. I ended up getting another engine off ebay and swapping them.
Hello , new new to the forum. I recently purchased a 2006 E 350. Engine light on. Can you please check my vin and engine number to see if my car is affected? If so, how would you proceed? The car has 134k miles on it.
You are welcome. You are fairly high mileage for the balance shaft issue to be popping up, although never say never. Some auto supply places will scan the codes for you for free if you don't have a scanner.
Hmm. P0016 may be an indicator of a balance shaft issue.
You may want to take it into a dealer to check for a definitive answer there. Otherwise, you may be throwing parts at it that you don't need for the real fix.
If you are handy and want to do a check yourself, there is a YouTube video on this to see if things are lining up correctly.
Hello again,
i just had the codes pulled at Autozone
poo16 crankshaft position bank 1 sensor A
what is the most logical way to proceed in repair or options?
thanks again
Usually a P0016 and a P0017 indicates the balance shaft. If you just bought it, see if you can take it back or get a warranty on it. Basically all 2006 are in the affected range, wasn't fixed til sometime in the 2007 model year. The parts are only a few hundred dollars, but it's hours and hours at a shop as the engine has to be removed to change the balance shafts. The dealer is like a $5-7k job, even at an independent mechanic, it's probably in the $3-5k range.
Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
thanks for your responses
Get it fixed under warranty or return it if you can. Unless you can fix it yourself, there's no way that a $5000-$7000 fix is going to be worth the expense because that's about what those cars are worth at that mileage. Your car also has SBC brakes, but that's not as expensive to fix and may already have been fixed. the reman pump is in the $800 range plus a couple hundred to fix it at an independent shop. Look at a 2007+ model, they didn't have SBC brakes, but the early production run still had the balance shaft problem, just need to check the engine number before buying it.
So...2007 and beyond for the E350? I really like this car... Also after the 134k mark, can it still be the balance shaft? Can the Poo16 be a smaller problem? I really like the car.
So...2007 and beyond for the E350? I really like this car... Also after the 134k mark, can it still be the balance shaft? Can the Poo16 be a smaller problem? I really like the car.
thanks all
Yes, there are people here who run into this problem when they have 160k. It's also possible it's a smaller problem, but most of the time it isn't. Could just be the sensor/magnets. But most people who report back say it isn't.
So worst case scenario, If it is the balance shaft, what would you do?
1. Repair it at an independence shop?
2. Drive it until there are major issues?
3 swap it out with a non-affected engine?
So worst case scenario, If it is the balance shaft, what would you do?
1. Repair it at an independence shop?
2. Drive it until there are major issues?
3 swap it out with a non-affected engine?
Im really at a loss of what to do.
Thanks again
When did you buy it? I think AZ has a 15 day, 500 mile used car warranty. Have the dealer fix it if that's the case.
As for what to do if it isn't, things aren't pretty. If you can't do it yourself, the cheapest would be at an independent mechanic. But make sure they know how to do it, someone also had a private shop do it and it didn't run quite right afterwards. You could keep driving it, but I think eventually it just won't start, you just have a few thousand miles before it stops completely, just the luck of the draw. As for replacing the engine, it's probably about the same cost, you'd have to get a 2007+ engine that didn't have the problem. But used engines are still in the $2000 range so it's probably about the same as taking it out and fixing it.
It’s a small dealer I purchased the car from. I contacted him yesterday (Saturday) and which he agreed to speak on Monday. Saturday was the 15th day after the purchase, but the first day code P0016 came up. We will see what happens then.
Also, what impact would changing the cam sensors have on the situation? Would that clear the code and resolve any of the concern?
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