The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft
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iCarsoft and EasyDiag (bluetooth dongle with iOS or Android software) are good, reasonably priced diagnostic tools. The angle of the pictures seem to make the markings looks off-center .
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Can someone check my vin
I have an 06 e350 just bought. It seems fine but I want to make sure. It has 134000 miles. The vin is WDBUF87J96X204534
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30 319203 is within affected range (272 clean point as of 30 468993). Have a local MB dealer run VMI to see if repair was completed.
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Generally speaking, if the car were going to have a balance shaft issue, I would have thought it would certainly have done so by 134K miles. Remember, supposedly not every car within the affected engine range was fitted with bad parts. The percentage is subject to debate and MB will never say, but the estimate is in the 20-25% range.
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Generally speaking, if the car were going to have a balance shaft issue, I would have thought it would certainly have done so by 134K miles. Remember, supposedly not every car within the affected engine range was fitted with bad parts. The percentage is subject to debate and MB will never say, but the estimate is in the 20-25% range.
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MB 2006 C280 4MATIC (w203)
VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
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You won't get vibration or shaking with the balance shaft problem. You will get the check engine light and a loss of power (for me it was mostly a loss of low end torque) and decrease in gas mileage. It will probably get worse over the next few weeks/months. With your mileage it may not go down hill as fast as mine did (I got the problem in my '06 R350 at 110k miles).
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VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
Last edited by Shack1; 10-28-2017 at 11:24 AM.
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I had the problem in 2006 c280. I have taken the engine apart you can see shaft is smooth where there should be a gear. I am selling the block cheap if anyone is interested. I ended up getting another engine off ebay and swapping them.
Last edited by BigAl67; 10-26-2017 at 09:34 AM. Reason: add picture
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VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km
Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
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Can someone please check vin number:
4JGCB65E07A053392
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
4JGCB65E07A053392
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
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Can someone please check vin number:
4JGCB65E07A053392
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
4JGCB65E07A053392
2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
Not too bad. Made in 1/2007 so it's past the balance shaft problem.
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https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check...cb65e07a053392
Not too bad. Made in 1/2007 so it's past the balance shaft problem.
Not too bad. Made in 1/2007 so it's past the balance shaft problem.
https://www.datamb.com/vin/oaz1nGEylQJdxv67l
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Hello , new new to the forum. I recently purchased a 2006 E 350. Engine light on. Can you please check my vin and engine number to see if my car is affected? If so, how would you proceed? The car has 134k miles on it.
Thanks
Ron
Vin # WDBUF56J86A746386
engine # 272964 30 034399
Thanks
Ron
Vin # WDBUF56J86A746386
engine # 272964 30 034399
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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...ne-serial.html
Your engine number as posted appears to be within the affected range, which goes up to 2729..30 468993-see the above link.
Get your codes read. The check engine light being on could be about any number of things.
Your engine number as posted appears to be within the affected range, which goes up to 2729..30 468993-see the above link.
Get your codes read. The check engine light being on could be about any number of things.
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You are welcome. You are fairly high mileage for the balance shaft issue to be popping up, although never say never. Some auto supply places will scan the codes for you for free if you don't have a scanner.
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Hello again,
i just had the codes pulled at Autozone
poo16 crankshaft position bank 1 sensor A
what is the most logical way to proceed in repair or options?
thanks again
i just had the codes pulled at Autozone
poo16 crankshaft position bank 1 sensor A
what is the most logical way to proceed in repair or options?
thanks again
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Hmm. P0016 may be an indicator of a balance shaft issue.
You may want to take it into a dealer to check for a definitive answer there. Otherwise, you may be throwing parts at it that you don't need for the real fix.
If you are handy and want to do a check yourself, there is a YouTube video on this to see if things are lining up correctly.
You may want to take it into a dealer to check for a definitive answer there. Otherwise, you may be throwing parts at it that you don't need for the real fix.
If you are handy and want to do a check yourself, there is a YouTube video on this to see if things are lining up correctly.
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Usually a P0016 and a P0017 indicates the balance shaft. If you just bought it, see if you can take it back or get a warranty on it. Basically all 2006 are in the affected range, wasn't fixed til sometime in the 2007 model year. The parts are only a few hundred dollars, but it's hours and hours at a shop as the engine has to be removed to change the balance shafts. The dealer is like a $5-7k job, even at an independent mechanic, it's probably in the $3-5k range.
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Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
thanks for your responses
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
thanks for your responses
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Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
thanks for your responses
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.
thanks for your responses