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The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft

Old 03-28-2017, 11:18 PM
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iCarsoft and EasyDiag (bluetooth dongle with iOS or Android software) are good, reasonably priced diagnostic tools. The angle of the pictures seem to make the markings looks off-center .
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Can someone check my vin

I have an 06 e350 just bought. It seems fine but I want to make sure. It has 134000 miles. The vin is WDBUF87J96X204534
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30 319203 is within affected range (272 clean point as of 30 468993). Have a local MB dealer run VMI to see if repair was completed.
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It does not appear to have been done. It has every service done by mercedes
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Generally speaking, if the car were going to have a balance shaft issue, I would have thought it would certainly have done so by 134K miles. Remember, supposedly not every car within the affected engine range was fitted with bad parts. The percentage is subject to debate and MB will never say, but the estimate is in the 20-25% range.
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Originally Posted by jimbo1763
Generally speaking, if the car were going to have a balance shaft issue, I would have thought it would certainly have done so by 134K miles. Remember, supposedly not every car within the affected engine range was fitted with bad parts. The percentage is subject to debate and MB will never say, but the estimate is in the 20-25% range.
I would check though instead of just assuming that you don't have a bad one, there are some people who come on here with high mileage that have the problem. I think it's either metal parts in the oil pan or you can take a few things apart and see if certain items are centered. There's a few youtube videos on how to check if you might be affected.
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VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km


Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'

car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
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You won't get vibration or shaking with the balance shaft problem. You will get the check engine light and a loss of power (for me it was mostly a loss of low end torque) and decrease in gas mileage. It will probably get worse over the next few weeks/months. With your mileage it may not go down hill as fast as mine did (I got the problem in my '06 R350 at 110k miles).
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA////AMG
VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km

Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'

car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
Sorry but it's not the sensors!

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I had the problem in 2006 c280. I have taken the engine apart you can see shaft is smooth where there should be a gear. I am selling the block cheap if anyone is interested. I ended up getting another engine off ebay and swapping them.

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Originally Posted by OMEGA////AMG
VIN: WDBRF92J86F739430
MB C280 4MATIC 2006 (W203) 186,000km


Getting codes: Tool Snap-on solus ultra
1208/P0016-constant adjustment of intake camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'
1200/P0017-constant adjustment of exhaust camshaft of right cylinder bank in direction 'retarded'

car drives fine nothing really noticeable no vibrating, shaking, noise just check engine light.
maybe just the magnets? ordered them be here tom just..
could it be the balancer?
raced a infinity g35 yesterday usually beat them, but felt the car really lagging of the line was weird ?
Your engine is within the affected serial number range. More than likely, you have the worn balance shaft gear issue.
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Can someone please check vin number:

4JGCB65E07A053392

2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
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Originally Posted by rbpowered
Can someone please check vin number:

4JGCB65E07A053392

2007 R350. Thinking about purchasing this tomorrow. It has a transmission problem which I'm okay with but I don't want to get involved with a balance shaft issue.
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check...cb65e07a053392

Not too bad. Made in 1/2007 so it's past the balance shaft problem.
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Originally Posted by BigAl67
I had the problem in 2006 c280. I have taken the engine apart you can see shaft is smooth where there should be a gear. I am selling the block cheap if anyone is interested. I ended up getting another engine off ebay and swapping them.
How did the main gear look?
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/check...cb65e07a053392

Not too bad. Made in 1/2007 so it's past the balance shaft problem.
mercedes finally launched their own VIN data card lookup tool...

https://www.datamb.com/vin/oaz1nGEylQJdxv67l

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Old 11-11-2017, 06:55 AM
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Hello , new new to the forum. I recently purchased a 2006 E 350. Engine light on. Can you please check my vin and engine number to see if my car is affected? If so, how would you proceed? The car has 134k miles on it.

Thanks

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Vin # WDBUF56J86A746386
engine # 272964 30 034399
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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211...ne-serial.html

Your engine number as posted appears to be within the affected range, which goes up to 2729..30 468993-see the above link.

Get your codes read. The check engine light being on could be about any number of things.
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Thanks Jimbo,
i will get the codes run shortly and post the results. Thank you for your reply.
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You are welcome. You are fairly high mileage for the balance shaft issue to be popping up, although never say never. Some auto supply places will scan the codes for you for free if you don't have a scanner.
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Hello again,
i just had the codes pulled at Autozone
poo16 crankshaft position bank 1 sensor A

what is the most logical way to proceed in repair or options?

thanks again
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Hmm. P0016 may be an indicator of a balance shaft issue.

You may want to take it into a dealer to check for a definitive answer there. Otherwise, you may be throwing parts at it that you don't need for the real fix.

If you are handy and want to do a check yourself, there is a YouTube video on this to see if things are lining up correctly.

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Originally Posted by Ronald12
Hello again,
i just had the codes pulled at Autozone
poo16 crankshaft position bank 1 sensor A

what is the most logical way to proceed in repair or options?

thanks again
Usually a P0016 and a P0017 indicates the balance shaft. If you just bought it, see if you can take it back or get a warranty on it. Basically all 2006 are in the affected range, wasn't fixed til sometime in the 2007 model year. The parts are only a few hundred dollars, but it's hours and hours at a shop as the engine has to be removed to change the balance shafts. The dealer is like a $5-7k job, even at an independent mechanic, it's probably in the $3-5k range.
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Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.

thanks for your responses
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Originally Posted by Ronald12
Actually I just recently bought the car and will meet with the dealer on Monday. Should I expect any compensation from the dealer since it is a known issue?
if I fix it, is it worth the expense to fix? The car is very nice otherwise and fits me well.

thanks for your responses
Get it fixed under warranty or return it if you can. Unless you can fix it yourself, there's no way that a $5000-$7000 fix is going to be worth the expense because that's about what those cars are worth at that mileage. Your car also has SBC brakes, but that's not as expensive to fix and may already have been fixed. the reman pump is in the $800 range plus a couple hundred to fix it at an independent shop. Look at a 2007+ model, they didn't have SBC brakes, but the early production run still had the balance shaft problem, just need to check the engine number before buying it.

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