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The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft

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Old 11-19-2017, 06:00 PM
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Mine was not in the "recall" range.
According to the dealer, where do I find the engine number?
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There was no recall. Just a defective part. There was a lawsuit about it, but not much came of it, some discount on the repair and there was a deadline to apply to be a part of it, it's expired now. You'd use a vin decoder which would tell you what the engine number is. Basically all 2006 E-350's had the bad one and it wasn't replaced with a better part til sometime in the 2007 model year, probably sometime in the September time frame of 2006. The M272 engine was also used in several other models so they were also affected. For vin decoders, try these two:

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https://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Mercedes-Benz

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I meant it wasn't on any of their lists for reimbursement. The second suit was settled with a tiered payout to affected owners.

I still love the car even with this issue but now i'm wondering about the SBC system.

Thanks for the links Ill check it out

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2007 S550 Affected?

I checked the VIN and compared the engine id and it looks like it is susceptible but, the car has 207,215 miles on it and there is no CEL. Can someone confirm if I am reading the data sheet correctly? I also did not see this model listed in the lawsuit.
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I read it as susceptible also. M273 engines to 088xxx and yours is 013xxx. Maybe the repair was done?
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I read it as susceptible also. M273 engines to 088xxx and yours is 013xxx. Maybe the repair was done?
Hard to tell. We looked the car up in the MB VMI and the last service record at an MB dealership was 2013 with no mention of the repair. I know the car belonged to an owner of a Chrysler dealer so it's possible the car was serviced elsewhere. I've got an OBDII scanner coming tomorrow so, I may scan the car and see if any codes pop. It's also got new air bags too so somebody has been doing some work on it. It's really clean inside and out but, I am not sure if I am willing to risk $8k if I cannot verify the repair .

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Hello, can someone check the vin/ engine number for this 2007 E350? Checking for the potential camshaft failure. Also does this model have the SBC issue?
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From what I see, your engine number is 272964 30 666318. Affected engines went up to 30 468993, so you ought to be okay. By the way, you said cam shaft, and this is for balance shaft, but I think that is what you meant.

MB stopped putting SBC brakes in cars in 2006, so if yours is a 2007 you don't have them.

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Thanks for the quick reply Jimbo! Yes I do mean the balance shaft.

Anything else pro or con I should know about this model?

Thanks again
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My 2007 E350 is going strong at 181,000 miles. I have taken good care of it. Mine did have to have the balance shaft replaced.

Ask if the conductor plate has been changed on the transmission-that is a weak point on a lot of these (mine included). The symptoms are the car hanging in a gear too long and then sudden unexpected shifting. It is about a $1200-1500 repair.

Also check for regular maintenance, including transmission fluid changes every 40K miles. Not sure if you are 4Matic-if so, the same applies to the transfer case.

I assume you are looking at the car-get a thorough prepurchase inspection done, and check the service records. Regular stuff.
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Originally Posted by jimbo1763
My 2007 E350 is going strong at 181,000 miles. I have taken good care of it. Mine did have to have the balance shaft replaced.

Ask if the conductor plate has been changed on the transmission-that is a weak point on a lot of these (mine included). The symptoms are the car hanging in a gear too long and then sudden unexpected shifting. It is about a $1200-1500 repair.

Also check for regular maintenance, including transmission fluid changes every 40K miles. Not sure if you are 4Matic-if so, the same applies to the transfer case.

I assume you are looking at the car-get a thorough prepurchase inspection done, and check the service records. Regular stuff.
You can just replace the electrical connector when doing the transmission fluid. I just did mine and it was starting to go. It ends up leaking oil from the wires and that ruins the plate. If you get it early enough, the plate will be fine, I think the connector is only around $7.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...or/2035400253/
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Originally Posted by axl_rose
Hard to tell. We looked the car up in the MB VMI and the last service record at an MB dealership was 2013 with no mention of the repair. I know the car belonged to an owner of a Chrysler dealer so it's possible the car was serviced elsewhere. I've got an OBDII scanner coming tomorrow so, I may scan the car and see if any codes pop. It's also got new air bags too so somebody has been doing some work on it. It's really clean inside and out but, I am not sure if I am willing to risk $8k if I cannot verify the repair .
If it was a dealers car, I bet the work was done off the books, but still worth checking.
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
You can just replace the electrical connector when doing the transmission fluid. I just did mine and it was starting to go. It ends up leaking oil from the wires and that ruins the plate. If you get it early enough, the plate will be fine, I think the connector is only around $7.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...or/2035400253/
Speed sensors on the plate can go also.

Had the connector replaced with each fluid change, still needed a plate (input speed sensor) at about 135K miles
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Originally Posted by axl_rose
Hard to tell. We looked the car up in the MB VMI and the last service record at an MB dealership was 2013 with no mention of the repair. I know the car belonged to an owner of a Chrysler dealer so it's possible the car was serviced elsewhere. I've got an OBDII scanner coming tomorrow so, I may scan the car and see if any codes pop. It's also got new air bags too so somebody has been doing some work on it. It's really clean inside and out but, I am not sure if I am willing to risk $8k if I cannot verify the repair .
The V8 engines are included in the timing error related issue - but it's not the balance shaft. I'm not sure on the repair cost - but I think it is far less than the V6.
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Hello, I’m new to the forum and wanted to see if someone could tell me if my engine was affected with the balance shaft issue? I just picked up my car from repair and was told it needed replaced. 272964 30 314192 is my engine number. I have an 06 E350.

Thank you!
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Your engine is in the affected range. But not all cars within that range have the problem. Are you having your check engine light coming on and has someone read the codes for you?
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Originally Posted by jimbo1763
Your engine is in the affected range. But not all cars within that range have the problem. Are you having your check engine light coming on and has someone read the codes for you?
Thanks for getting back to me. Yes I just had it checked and the check engine light was on when I dropped it off at the mechanic. From what I was told is there are codes for the timing chain and that according to mercedes there’s been no repair to the balance shaft and that was likely it.
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Originally Posted by rpdeleon
Hello, I’m new to the forum and wanted to see if someone could tell me if my engine was affected with the balance shaft issue? I just picked up my car from repair and was told it needed replaced. 272964 30 314192 is my engine number. I have an 06 E350.

Thank you!
Mileage? Ownership length?
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Originally Posted by rpdeleon
Thanks for getting back to me. Yes I just had it checked and the check engine light was on when I dropped it off at the mechanic. From what I was told is there are codes for the timing chain and that according to mercedes there’s been no repair to the balance shaft and that was likely it.
You might want to post the code numbers as well.
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Originally Posted by rpdeleon
Hello, I’m new to the forum and wanted to see if someone could tell me if my engine was affected with the balance shaft issue? I just picked up my car from repair and was told it needed replaced. 272964 30 314192 is my engine number. I have an 06 E350.

Thank you!
According to the engine number you provided, it would fall into the susceptible category. Get an obdII scanner so you can get the codes from the car.

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Mileage is approximately 133,695. I’ve owned the car since 09/2012 and purchased it from original owner. The codes provided to me are as follows:

P0060
P0272
P0856 - Fixed thermostat
P1200

“Directly from invoice “likely there is a problem with the timing chain or balance shaft timing gear. Cleared the dtc’s and they did not reset at this time. Balance shaft does not appear to have been done via records with MB”
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Originally Posted by rpdeleon
Mileage is approximately 133,695. I’ve owned the car since 09/2012 and purchased it from original owner. The codes provided to me are as follows:

P0060
P0272
P0856 - Fixed thermostat
P1200

“Directly from invoice “likely there is a problem with the timing chain or balance shaft timing gear. Cleared the dtc’s and they did not reset at this time. Balance shaft does not appear to have been done via records with MB”
Fault Code: P1200 or P1208 Pending or Stored
Fault codes 0059, 0060, 0063, 0064, 0271, 0272, 0275, and 0276. These fault codes could be recorded as current in the ECU fault memory. If current or pending these codes are caused by a malfunctioning camshaft adjustment solenoid. If you have these codes you should check for oil leak at camshaft adjustment solenoid.
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Vin check please?

can someone please help me to determine if this vin numbers are within the affected balance shafts?
WDBF56X97B183607
WDBF56X17B034320

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vin number check?

Also possibly one more?

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All showing invalid, enter correct VINs here: https://www.datamb.com/ 272 clean point 30 468993 >, 273 30 088611 >.
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All showing invalid, enter correct VINs here: https://www.datamb.com/ 272 clean point 30 468993 >, 273 30 088611 >.
Thanks Konigstiger for the link. Can you give me affected range of engine numbers?
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