The dreaded M272 Balance Shaft
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My E55 is gonna be fine, I have an extended warranty on her. Im just curious on our other two cars. Can someone pls check if these vin numbers are affected? Thank you in advance.
05 CLK500 -WDBTJ75J25F150330
07 E350-WDBUF56x27B034651
05 CLK500 -WDBTJ75J25F150330
07 E350-WDBUF56x27B034651
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CLK has 113 engine, not affected. E, 30 454312 is within affected range.
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30 222434 is within affected range.
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Thanks. Am I to understand that even though the engine is in the impacted range it may not have a bad part? The car has 86,000 miles on it and so far, no issues.
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You had better keep your fingers crossed, mine didn't have any signs until after the 100K extended warranty ran out.
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The country matters
(If you would update your profile with your country, you would prevent this ambiguity about which units you mean.)
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Do you mean "100k" KILOMETERS or "100k" MILES? If you mean 100k miles, that's a lot, and you had reason to believe that your extended warranty would protect you. If you mean 100k kilometers (62,500 miles), that's about right for the occurrence of this problem. Other posts have suggested that the problem typically occurs at about 60,000 to 80,000 miles.
(If you would update your profile with your country, you would prevent this ambiguity about which units you mean.)
(If you would update your profile with your country, you would prevent this ambiguity about which units you mean.)
My profile has been updated, thanks for the suggestion.
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Mercedes quality
I meant 100K miles. I guess we differ on how long a brand new car should last. I would expect a 50 thousand dollar Mercedes should last much longer then 100K miles. Mine needed a new transmission at a little over 60K miles, and now the engine is shot at 137K miles. Mercedes should be ashamed at the quality and craftsmanship. My Son's 2001 Honda Civic now has over 250K miles without a hint of either engine or transmission failure.
Since I got a Mercedes, I have always cringed every time Consumer Reports comes out with their reliability ratings on automobile makes and models. Why, why can't Mercedes have almost all "much better than average" like Toyota and (yes) Honda? It's embarrassing!
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Is my CLK 350 VIN: WDBTJ56J26F171215 affected? Thanks.
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it could be the gear but your engine timing might just be off a tooth, does the vehicle ever run poorly on a cold start up, or if you've ever had the battery disconnected for a lil while ?
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Is my CLK 350 VIN: WDBTJ56J26F171215 affected? Thanks.
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I just registered to thank everybody for posting this info. Last week the P0016 code popped up when my check engine light came on. I found this forum by searching for the cause of the code. I cleared the code after I read it and hit the net to find an explanation. Seeing as the repair was above my pay grade I made an appointment at the local MB dealer. This is the first time I've taken a car in for service since 1975. Anyway my generic code reader cleared not only the code but the entire history in the ECU. Even though they informed me that the diagnostic read would run $105 they didn't charge me a dime and even offered to wash my car. The light came back on 5 days later so another appointment and trip to the dealer. This time I was informed that it was the balancer shaft issue and they would put together a price quote for me. I mentioned that since my last appointment I had researched the problem and that there were cases of MB paying for this. My service advisor said she could put together a price and submit it to the service manager who would forward it to MB and see what could be done. About two hours later she called to tell me that MB would cover all but $500 of the repair. While $500 doesn't fall out of the sky I was very pleased with the offer. It goes in Tuesday morning. Considering that I just purchased my 06 E350 with 80k three months ago from a used car lot I think this was exceptional service and I'm very pleased. There's no doubt that Bobby Rahal Mercedes in Wexford, PA will get more of my business.
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Please check my VIN!
Hey guys, I just wanted to see if konigstiger can check my VIN and engine number. I recently got the P0015 and P0015(pd) code, even after changing all four cam sensors. Please help!
VIN: WDDGF54X18F066430
VIN: WDDGF54X18F066430
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You're fine.
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Thanks man! Unfortunately, after changing all four sensors, my CEL has still come on. My mechanic says that if that's the case, then the whole shaft has to be replaced. Since I'm not within the range of "faulty" engines, will it still be possible for me to get MBUSA to help me cover the costs? Does my engine even need to have the shaft replaced? Help!
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What are the MB fault codes, 1200 & 1208 depict balance shaft.
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Konigstiger can you please check VIN #: WDBRF52H17E023630 and VIN #: WDBRF52HX7F924148 hopefully im in the clear...looking to change from the stated Sentra to MB if the news is good on either of these beauties.
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Fingers crossed. I hope not. Any thoughts or signs on bad balance shaft symptoms besides CEL codes? Just hit 96k miles on my E350 and shes my DD. My beloved E55 is my weekend warrior, so far so good.
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Konigstiger can you please check VIN #: WDBRF52H17E023630 and VIN #: WDBRF52HX7F924148 hopefully im in the clear...looking to change from the stated Sentra to MB if the news is good on either of these beauties.
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Thanks Konigstiger that's the one with more miles but anything to escape this issue. I notice that the affected car was made in Brazil 06/06 and unaffected car was made in Germany 02/07....is the common factor for affected vehicles the date (prior to 07) or is it the location it was made? Just wondering
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272 (350) clean point engine # 30 468993 as of October 2006, 273 (550) # 30 088611 as of September 2006 production.
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Maybe I should break it down a little bit and give you guys the full story of what happened, and maybe you can offer some insight.
I brought the car to the mechanic after reading P0015 and P0015(pd) from my personal code reader. He told me that he needed to replace all four cam sensors in order to clear the code.
After 4 hours, I picked up the car, and he said "drive it about 80 miles before taking it to the smog check station, otherwise you won't pass." After a few more hours, the CEL came back on, and I brought the car back to my mechanic the next day.
He told me the code that his STAR system was reading was "0060," and that he'd replace the sensor it was assigned to, in case it was a faulty part. He told me if the check engine comes back on again, that I would probably have to replace the whole cam shaft. A few hours later, the CEL came back on again, and I attached my code reader, and it threw out P0015 and P0015(pd) once more. Does this mean I actually have to get the whole cam shaft replaced?
My mechanic told me I could bring the car back to him if the CEL was on, and get a refund. I'm thinking about getting a second opinion.
I brought the car to the mechanic after reading P0015 and P0015(pd) from my personal code reader. He told me that he needed to replace all four cam sensors in order to clear the code.
After 4 hours, I picked up the car, and he said "drive it about 80 miles before taking it to the smog check station, otherwise you won't pass." After a few more hours, the CEL came back on, and I brought the car back to my mechanic the next day.
He told me the code that his STAR system was reading was "0060," and that he'd replace the sensor it was assigned to, in case it was a faulty part. He told me if the check engine comes back on again, that I would probably have to replace the whole cam shaft. A few hours later, the CEL came back on again, and I attached my code reader, and it threw out P0015 and P0015(pd) once more. Does this mean I actually have to get the whole cam shaft replaced?
My mechanic told me I could bring the car back to him if the CEL was on, and get a refund. I'm thinking about getting a second opinion.
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