Conversion- Digital Ac Control Unit
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Mackhack, hahaha thanks for the clarification. now I just have to think if Ill be ok with the Air direction issue. one more thing, my car is Aussie made and Crafty's unit is, I suppose US made, would it matter with fitment and that air control direction being my car is a RHD?
also please have a look at this photo...
what is the function of the button with the "front and rear seat with arrow in the middle" and the "2 arrows" on the bottom right side of the unit? how would it function in my car? thanks mate!
also please have a look at this photo...
what is the function of the button with the "front and rear seat with arrow in the middle" and the "2 arrows" on the bottom right side of the unit? how would it function in my car? thanks mate!
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Mackhack, hahaha thanks for the clarification. now I just have to think if Ill be ok with the Air direction issue. one more thing, my car is Aussie made and Crafty's unit is, I suppose US made, would it matter with fitment and that air control direction being my car is a RHD?
also please have a look at this photo...
what is the function of the button with the "front and rear seat with arrow in the middle" and the "2 arrows" on the bottom right side of the unit? how would it function in my car? thanks mate!
also please have a look at this photo...
what is the function of the button with the "front and rear seat with arrow in the middle" and the "2 arrows" on the bottom right side of the unit? how would it function in my car? thanks mate!
Last edited by Mackhack; 07-16-2014 at 08:29 PM.
#29
I don't understand you. You won't gain any functionality and I told you this yesterday already. The unit WILL work in your car. Right now your passenger won't be able to change the temperature in the back separately from the front and this won't add it. Same with seperate air flow control in the front for driver and passenger side. This will only work in the 4-Zone and you have only a 2-Zone and you weren't able to control it to begin with. Why would you say now some buttons won't work? Sure all 4-Zone **** won't work but you didn't have this to begin with. So nothing to be sad about it.
I think everything is discussed to death now about this conversion.
Summary:
1. it's plug and play.
2. all existing features will work.
3. No extra features will be gained. Period.
Last edited by Mackhack; 07-16-2014 at 08:53 PM.
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nah, im not trying to gain any functionality with this mod apart from the LCD screen. what I was thinking is if there is another style or version of the climate control that came out for a 2 zone that has the LCD, (later version than mine but earlier than what crafty is offering) i reckon that would work better button wise.
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nah, im not trying to gain any functionality with this mod apart from the LCD screen. what I was thinking is if there is another style or version of the climate control that came out for a 2 zone that has the LCD, (later version than mine but earlier than what crafty is offering) i reckon that would work better button wise.
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All cars were 2003-2006 cars with 2-Zone only (analog control unit). Everyone's AC worked as before and gained the coolness factor. 2007-2009 have an LCD with 2-Zone and the REST button was eliminated for cost savings.
All V8 E-Class (E500, E550, E55, E63,E65) come standard with 4-Zone and therefore with the LCD unit, all non-V8s come standard with 2-Zone AC but a 4-Zone control unit will work and support all given functions.
All V8 E-Class (E500, E550, E55, E63,E65) come standard with 4-Zone and therefore with the LCD unit, all non-V8s come standard with 2-Zone AC but a 4-Zone control unit will work and support all given functions.
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Engine: 112.949
Chassis: 211.282
Build date: 01/04
Option code 581 - automatic climate control
This is a model built for Canada.
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I just picked up a dual zone unit 2008 from a guy who was parting out his car. I'm looking forward to getting it installed. I will post pictures before and after, stay tuned!
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380951195...84.m1423.l2649
will wait for your before and after pics and maybe some DIY pics as well if you dont mind. cheers!
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Precisely, that is an identical unit to the one I got. I should receive my unit either today or tomorrow, seller took his time to mail it. I will be more than happy to list a DIY steps.
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another thing is the parts look identical but comes in different part numbers. i wonder if thats gonna be an issue.
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I hear you, a picture is worth a hundred write-ups. I think it will take me more than 10 min as I do not want to break anything. With regard to identical items having different part numbers, I can only assume that MB has their system of ID'ing their parts for different models, e.g. the W219 (CLS) has many identical parts as the W211, but the parts numbers are not the same.
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
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I hear you, a picture is worth a hundred write-ups. I think it will take me more than 10 min as I do not want to break anything. With regard to identical items having different part numbers, I can only assume that MB has their system of ID'ing their parts for different models, e.g. the W219 (CLS) has many identical parts as the W211, but the parts numbers are not the same.
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
#42
I hear you, a picture is worth a hundred write-ups. I think it will take me more than 10 min as I do not want to break anything. With regard to identical items having different part numbers, I can only assume that MB has their system of ID'ing their parts for different models, e.g. the W219 (CLS) has many identical parts as the W211, but the parts numbers are not the same.
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
#43
I hear you, a picture is worth a hundred write-ups. I think it will take me more than 10 min as I do not want to break anything. With regard to identical items having different part numbers, I can only assume that MB has their system of ID'ing their parts for different models, e.g. the W219 (CLS) has many identical parts as the W211, but the parts numbers are not the same.
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
As soon as I do my the A/C unit exchange, I will put them up here!
#44
It's literally 10 minutes, and 4 screws that it takes to replace the unit. I took pictures showing where and how to remove it. I can post them if needed. Or I can post the necessary WIS documents depicting it. But the bottom line is this: it's not rocket science and once you know how to, it's actually amazing to see how these things are put together and nobody sees screws, clips and springs but a beautiful flawless interior.
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It's literally 10 minutes, and 4 screws that it takes to replace the unit. I took pictures showing where and how to remove it. I can post them if needed. Or I can post the necessary WIS documents depicting it. But the bottom line is this: it's not rocket science and once you know how to, it's actually amazing to see how these things are put together and nobody sees screws, clips and springs but a beautiful flawless interior.
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Beware for those cars in extreme heat.. when i did this swap and removed the center speaker/ AC unit assembly, the screw holes cracked..they are very brittle. The Florida heat is tough on those cheap plastic parts. When I swapped out the control unit and screwed it back into the a/c assembly I tightened the screws just enough so it wouldn't crack the plastic.. Now a week later the control unit is loose, seems like screws holding the control unit cracked.
So just be careful when removing and replacing!
So just be careful when removing and replacing!
#48
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Well, I received the 2008 A/C control unit this pm, SURPRISE!, but I'm sorry I'm unable to post pics. of installation as my daughter took my camera to her summer camp without telling me I'm sorry I can't post pictures.
On the other hand, after installation the A/C button just blinks red when pushed, despite putting temp at coldest possible. It blinks for a couple of seconds then goes out. When pushing MAX COOL, it displays on screen, blinks for a couple of seoncds, then goes out. I checked all connections and they're all nice and snug.
What could be the issue here. Does system need to be reset by STAR?
On the other hand, after installation the A/C button just blinks red when pushed, despite putting temp at coldest possible. It blinks for a couple of seconds then goes out. When pushing MAX COOL, it displays on screen, blinks for a couple of seoncds, then goes out. I checked all connections and they're all nice and snug.
What could be the issue here. Does system need to be reset by STAR?
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Originally Posted by MARK CUMMINS View Post
"The Early W211s MUST be version coded from the SDS aka Star to Work..Otherwise plug and play. Also On my 2006 W211 we tried to swap it out and it Did NOT work... Without a version code change to make it work. Glad to hear that Some W211s will work without a Version code program change...."
Reading thru the above quote, looks like version coding could be the answer. However for some it was plug and play? I don't want to tell seller unit is defective, then he sends a replacement, then I find myself with same problem.
It is interesting that everything works except the A/C button.
"The Early W211s MUST be version coded from the SDS aka Star to Work..Otherwise plug and play. Also On my 2006 W211 we tried to swap it out and it Did NOT work... Without a version code change to make it work. Glad to hear that Some W211s will work without a Version code program change...."
Reading thru the above quote, looks like version coding could be the answer. However for some it was plug and play? I don't want to tell seller unit is defective, then he sends a replacement, then I find myself with same problem.
It is interesting that everything works except the A/C button.
#50
No version coding needed. The AC unit knows what it can actuate and what not. Buttons that won't work simply won't work and error codes will be stored but do not affect the functionality of the unit.